Author Topic: New GT5 Demo is up on Asia PSN (Read 10579 times)

Smooth Groove · « **on:** October 19, 2007, 07:01:24 PM »

Anyone going to give it a try? Apparently, it's kinda disappointing because it's still the same old gameplay and the graphics don't look quite as good as the PR bullshots.

I'm going to DL right now and come back with some impressions.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:02:17 PM »

Up already? I thought it wasn't supposed to be up until tomorrow. I'm not a fan of GT, but I'll download it when I get home, I guess.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:03:54 PM »

Yeah, people at GAF are DL it.

Blim Blim posted some videos and screen caps from it

http://www.gamersyde.com/game_1316_en.html

hyp · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:12:18 PM »

sweet, i'll snag this tonight. and possibly post impressions.

TVC15 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:18:45 PM »

I like my racing games to be fun, thank you very much. I don't think they made any of that sort of racer this year. At lest there's Trackmania.

Valcrist · « **Reply #5 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:32:02 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on October 19, 2007, 07:01:24 PM

Anyone going to give it a try? Apparently, it's kinda disappointing because it's still the same old gameplay and the graphics don't look quite as good as the PR bullshots.

I'm going to DL right now and come back with some impressions.

What will be the PS3's first game that doesn't dissapoint. :'(

drohne · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:33:11 PM »

nice. i'm not a gt fan -- too open-ended and repetitive and BORING -- but i actually had a lot of fun with the last gt5 demo. it was just hotlaps with online leaderboards. beats the usual carwank bullshit

TVC15 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:35:52 PM »

Yeah, I'm not much for GT, obviously, but GTHD or GT4HD or whatever that thing was last Christmas was a nice little package for free. They probably could have gotten away with charging money for that.

MCD · « **Reply #8 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:42:29 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on October 19, 2007, 07:18:45 PM

I like my racing games to be fun, thank you very much. I don't think they made any of that sort of racer this year. At lest there's Trackmania.

PGR4 looks like fun.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #9 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:43:06 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on October 19, 2007, 07:18:45 PM

I like my racing games to be fun, thank you very much. I don't think they made any of that sort of racer this year. At lest there's Trackmania.

Dirt and PGR4 are pretty good. I don't care much for sim racers either. I have no idea how games like Forza/GT can be so popular when so few people even know how to drive a Civic properly.

Quote from: TVC 15 on October 19, 2007, 07:35:52 PM

Yeah, I'm not much for GT, obviously, but GTHD or GT4HD or whatever that thing was last Christmas was a nice little package for free. They probably could have gotten away with charging money for that.

Hell no, I ain't going to pay a dime for a game with one track.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:47:12 PM »

Forza is incredible.

GT is gay and is for gay people.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #11 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:52:19 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on October 19, 2007, 07:46:09 PM

I think that I like Mororstorm alot more than I actually do. It's odd.

It's not bad if you treat it as an arcade racer. By that, I mean, a game that you would really play in the arcade since there are so few features or customization. I would probably play it more often if not for the super annoying load times. I don't even remember a racing game last gen with such terrible load times just in the vehicle selection screen alone.

TVC15 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:56:42 PM »

I could never get into PGR3. I don't like breaking racers into "realistic" and "arcadey" because none of them are even close to realistic, even with a wheel. What this basically means is that "realistic" is a nice way of saying "not fun." PGR, while still better than Forza and GT, is firmly in the "not fun" genre of racers. I can understand why MS wanted two first party racers, but two unfun ones? Bleh.

MCD · « **Reply #13 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:58:22 PM »

What about PGR4 demo?

did you try it?

Mupepe · « **Reply #14 on:** October 19, 2007, 08:07:55 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on October 19, 2007, 07:48:13 PM

Neither one is worth much without a wheel though.

Yup. Playing a sim racer with a pad is pointless

Edit: and I find both Forza and PGR4 extremely fun. Forza 2 is as close as it's come to "real" racer.

They got so many small things right. The fact that when I have too much power with shit suspension I slide out of control realistically is awesome. The fact that sharp turns make me spin out like fuck when I'm driving a RWD vehicle is awesome.

GT's version of 'sim' is to just make the wheel harder to turn

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #15 on:** October 19, 2007, 08:14:33 PM »

Maybe you should give PGR4 a try, TVC. Quite a few people found it to their liking despite not being fans of PGR3. At the very least, the graphics are much improved in PGR4.

What did you guys think of Sega Rally Revo and Test Drive Unlimited? I was thinking of getting Sega Rally for the PC but both the console demo felt really underwhelming. I never got around to trying TD but I'll give it a try if I hear some good things about it. I just remembered that I haven't played TD yet because TVC brought up fun vs unfun racers.

Mupepe · « **Reply #16 on:** October 19, 2007, 08:16:30 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on October 19, 2007, 08:14:33 PM

Maybe you should give PGR4 a try, TVC. Quite a few people found it to their liking despite not being fans of PGR3. At the very least, the graphics are much improved in PGR4.

What did you guys think of Sega Rally Revo and Test Drive Unlimited? I was thinking of getting Sega Rally for the PC but both the console demo felt really underwhelming. I never got around to trying TD but I'll give it a try if I hear some good things about it. I just remembered that I haven't played TD yet because TVC brought up fun vs unfun racers.

TDU is fucking incredible. It's a crime that it didn't sell more. Pick it up.

y2kev · « **Reply #17 on:** October 19, 2007, 08:37:53 PM »

Project Gotham Racing

I generally hate the sim/arcade hybrids. I play them for a little while and I'm just never satisfied. It's always "PICK A HOT CAR" and "PICK A PRETTY TRACK" and go at it for a while until it becomes boring. There's no motivation for me ever.

I totally played a TON of forza 2 this year (even online, I logged like 20 hours online, even played 2 endurance races with GAF and some 1up staffers), which are like 1-2 hour affairs.

I'm pretty happy with the demo. NEeds some work of course.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #18 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:09:20 AM »

Give me Burnout Paradise, and I'll be a happy boy.

TVC15 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:11:00 AM »

Quote from: distantmantra on October 20, 2007, 02:09:20 AM

Give me Burnout Paradise, and I'll be a happy boy.

Burnout Paradise exhibits my most hated trend in racing games: having all the courses in the same general area.

Also Burnout Dominator was a terrible game, so I'm hoping Criterion doesn't want to be making games similar to that.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #20 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:13:23 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on October 20, 2007, 02:11:00 AM

Quote from: distantmantra on October 20, 2007, 02:09:20 AM
Give me Burnout Paradise, and I'll be a happy boy.

Burnout Paradise exhibits my most hated trend in racing games: having all the courses in the same general area.

Also Burnout Dominator was a terrible game, so I'm hoping Criterion doesn't want to be making games similar to that.

I never played Dominator. I'm still playing Burnout Revenge on my Xbox, though.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #21 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:24:49 AM »

Just finished playing the GT demo. The selection screen looks really stunning. PD should have left off the human crew though since they are the only things that look fake in there. Everything kinda goes downhill after you click start. The car models drop drastically in quality although they still look quite good. The track looks like it was lifted from the PS2 games and cleaned up a little bit. What I found most annoying is that Polyphony still uses excessive darkness to make everything look "real". All I know is that shadows aren't cast on cars like that in broad daylight. Image quality and the framerate are actually pretty good. People that complained about jaggies/tearing/slowdown are really exaggerating.

In terms of gameplay, there's nothing to say. It's still the same old game that you either love or hate.

Download the demo, TVC since you do a much better job of making a game sound like crap. I want to see how you'll go about magnifying all of GT5's flaws.

TVC15 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:29:40 AM »

I wouldn't do so hot with a racer because I'm not really into cars or racing.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #23 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:31:51 AM »

I just want to see you rip apart the graphical flaws.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #24 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:31:59 AM »

It looks nice and all, but I just can't get into the whole "realistic" driving crap. Oh well, it was free.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #25 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:35:16 AM »

Are you only allowed to select between those 3-4 cars or is there a way to unlock every car that's in the race? My RL car is actually in there but it's not selectable.

TVC15 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:38:34 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on October 20, 2007, 02:31:51 AM

I just want to see you rip apart the graphical flaws.

How big is it? I don't want to be too bad on Sony, but downloading shit from PSN is kind of a chore.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #27 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:40:51 AM »

760mb. It downloaded really fast but you have to setup a Jap account. The GAF thread's 1st page teaches you how to do it. What's your Steam ID? I just added Cajole and Hyp.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #28 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:44:01 AM »

Yeah, I've noticed that everything downloads extremely fast from the Japanese store.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #29 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:46:57 AM »

So is there any way to select the other cars, Distantmantra? I can't tell since everything's in Japanese.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #30 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:47:39 AM »

I have no idea, I spent all of five minutes on it. I'll play around with some more tomorrow. I'm going to bed.

Valcrist · « **Reply #31 on:** October 20, 2007, 04:22:32 AM »

i just finished a race.
honestly if you don't want your heart broken don't download it.
the in car view is awesome, the car models aren't bad.
but the track is in your face bad.
the people range from looking like 8bit sprites to cardboard cutouts.
other textures, like trees and grass are lifeless.
i still have hope pd can improve because this felt like a step down from gthd.

Kyle · « **Reply #32 on:** October 20, 2007, 09:57:40 AM »

the overall graphical look of the game doesn't match with the bullshots from sony, probably they're from the replay screen with added AA.
anyway, the game still has GT feel in it, i like that, i hope they don't rape us with GT5P price. $:-\$

drohne · « **Reply #33 on:** October 20, 2007, 10:13:15 AM »

oh no modus has stolen dcharlie's account

someone do something before he demonstrates the unparalleled realism of forza 2's lighting

with many, many screenshots

Kyle · « **Reply #34 on:** October 20, 2007, 10:22:05 AM »

Quote from: drohne on October 20, 2007, 10:13:15 AM

oh no modus has stolen dcharlie's account

someone do something before he demonstrates the unparalleled realism of forza 2's lighting

with many, many screenshots

that's dcharlie.

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it`s like a time warp

he is the only guy on earth who uses this char "`".
`i`<3`dcharlie`

btw, forza 2 rocks in terms of graphics/gameplay.

drohne · « **Reply #35 on:** October 20, 2007, 11:11:50 AM »

look -- which of the following scenarios seems more plausible to you:

a. modus has stolen dcharlie's account and is now pulling orthographical tricks

b. there are two people who think forza is legitimate visual competition for gt

no sir -- that's modus

spoiler (click to show/hide)

i haven't even played forza 2. i hear good things...but i also hear good things about saint's row.

[close]

MCD · « **Reply #36 on:** October 20, 2007, 11:15:56 AM »

drohne, you forgot nozi.

Kyle · « **Reply #37 on:** October 20, 2007, 11:28:53 AM »

Quote from: drohne on October 20, 2007, 11:11:50 AM

look -- which of the following scenarios seems more plausible to you:

a. modus has stolen dcharlie's account and is now pulling orthographical tricks

b. there are two people who think forza is legitimate visual competition for gt

no sir -- that's modus

spoiler (click to show/hide)
i haven't even played forza 2. i hear good things...but i also hear good things about saint's row.
[close]

i'm not comparing GT to Forza 2 in any way.
i'm saying Forza 2 rocks in terms of graphics and gameplay.

y2kev · « **Reply #38 on:** October 20, 2007, 12:21:31 PM »

You have to be kidding, dcharlie.

Forza was a jaggy mess running with 12 cars on screen on the fucking Kameo engine, and obviously its stolen lighting model to boot.

GT5P DEMO is less jaggy and has 16 amazing cars on screen.

Really. Sony should just put up the white flags.

Forza 2 is an awesome game. It's not a graphical showpiece. Everyone knows this. The lighting is flat and the cars are less impressive than GT5P.

MCD · « **Reply #39 on:** October 20, 2007, 12:30:11 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on October 20, 2007, 12:21:31 PM

You have to be kidding, dcharlie.

Forza was a jaggy mess running with 12 cars on screen on the fucking Kameo engine, and obviously its stolen lighting model to boot.

GT5P DEMO is less jaggy and has 16 amazing cars on screen.

Really. Sony should just put up the white flags.

Forza 2 is an awesome game. It's not a graphical showpiece. Everyone knows this. The lighting is flat and the cars are less impressive than GT5P.

Wrong, MS 1st party titles use something called shared technology between them.

it's not the Kameo engine, just some stuff shared between 1st party titles.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/1953/a_rare_opportunity_on_piatas_.php?page=3

it's probably something to do with the livery editor.

y2kev · « **Reply #40 on:** October 20, 2007, 12:36:58 PM »

I've heard from a pretty good source exactly what the technology is. It is sort of irrelevant anyway.

Kyle · « **Reply #41 on:** October 20, 2007, 12:39:23 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on October 20, 2007, 12:21:31 PM

You have to be kidding, dcharlie.

Forza was a jaggy mess running with 12 cars on screen on the fucking Kameo engine, and obviously its stolen lighting model to boot.

GT5P DEMO is less jaggy and has 16 amazing cars on screen.

Really. Sony should just put up the white flags.

Forza 2 is an awesome game. It's not a graphical showpiece. Everyone knows this. The lighting is flat and the cars are less impressive than GT5P.

the HDR in Forza 2 wasn't implemented properly, maybe they wanted to maintain a REAL STABLE 60fps.
and yeah, based on what i've seen, Forza is less jaggied than GT5P not on the car models only, but in the environment.
Forza 2 environment is really way better than GT5P.
the car models seems to be the same since they're based on the same blue prints, the HDR lighting in GT5P made it look better.

MCD · « **Reply #42 on:** October 20, 2007, 12:40:14 PM »

I know what you are talking about, i remember BlimBlim saying Rare helped them or something.

but i doubt they would use the Kameo engine, shit is old and i can't imagine it being used for a car sim. game.

btw, Forza 2 is 8 cars not 12 on screen or am i mistaken?

y2kev · « **Reply #43 on:** October 20, 2007, 12:48:00 PM »

It's 8 online. GT5P is 16 online too.

omg now there are three moduses!

Kyle · « **Reply #44 on:** October 20, 2007, 12:55:58 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on October 20, 2007, 12:48:00 PM

It's 8 online. GT5P is 16 online too.

omg now there are three moduses!

really you're downplaying forza 2,the game looks gorgeous, and it plays great.

y2kev · « **Reply #45 on:** October 20, 2007, 12:57:19 PM »

You keep saying it plays great, which I have already stipulated.

I don't agree that it looks amazing. It looks good.

y2kev · « **Reply #46 on:** October 20, 2007, 01:10:53 PM »

Okay, man. I don't know how you can say that professional mode feels like you are driving a car in GT4.

drohne · « **Reply #47 on:** October 20, 2007, 01:13:30 PM »

i go for maximum unfairness and inconsistency in my gaf posts, but dcharlie takes it to another level, and i'm not even sure he's trying -- i get jealous sometimes

when people complained about halo 3's 640p sans aa, crap texture filtering, and unstable 30fps he threw an epic shitfit

a gt5 demo does objectively better in all of those departments and he's got his magnifying glass out

where do i get that breezy unconcern -- that rakish disregard for any semblance of intellectual honesty

bud · « **Reply #48 on:** October 20, 2007, 01:17:32 PM »

holy shit, what happened to dc?

drohne · « **Reply #49 on:** October 20, 2007, 01:29:45 PM »

well, you won't have to apologize for bungie's graphical ineptitude on future projects -- you can just blame the rigors of multiplatform development

MCD · « **Reply #50 on:** October 20, 2007, 01:47:30 PM »

Did i just see Samsung?

dcharlie

MCD · « **Reply #51 on:** October 20, 2007, 01:51:54 PM »

And btw dcharlie, notice how that folus guy says that he can't see any fucking jaggies in GT5P while in every 360 game he bitches about everything.

y2kev · « **Reply #52 on:** October 20, 2007, 01:53:17 PM »

Quote from: bud on October 20, 2007, 01:17:32 PM

holy shit, what happened to dc?

no fucking clue

i liked it more when he was passive aggressive

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see? don`t you realise what a bunch of fucking casuals you sony cock lords sound like?
"BU BU BU BU GT5P LOOKS BETEAAA"

this is the sort of shit we humiliated the casuals for for YEARS and it`s now the Sony fanboys LAST DEFENSE. Forza SHITS all over GT5P demo. It`s not even funny - and it`s so blatantly transparent that this is the case because the ONLY thing people can talk about is how much "better" it looks.

Hoist the flags man. You know it`s game over if this is all Sony have to offer. Bumber car physics monkey AI jag fest GT4 HD ... in 2009. Shambolic.

dcharlie, shut the fuck up. i don't know what your problem is.

I am not a "fucking casual" race driving fan. And if you think GT5P plays like GT4 with the simulation set to professional, then go eat a dick. Cause you're basically just cock gobbling right now and it's just fucking stupid. I never even said GT5P > Forza 2 in any way other than graphically, so really back the fuck off. You're really just annoying with this shit. Your posts should be 90% shorter and less filled with your apocalyptic ass dribble.

"physics monkey"

wow, nice job, dude. i'll get kaz on the line and tell him his game is a "physics monkey."

The bumper car issues are still problematic and need to be fixed, but your other complaints are just bullshit. If GT5P is a "jagfest" than Halo 3 is a unplayable disaster. Give me a break, you're out of control with your accusations.

Kyle · « **Reply #53 on:** October 20, 2007, 01:54:02 PM »

irony, but since this gen has started, the only games company who were advancing in technical department, are Ubisoft.
GRAW1 a first gen xbox 360 game, it beats MGS4 in every way in the graphical department.
Assassin's Creed too, is fuckin' INSANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNE in the graphical department, but fanboys can't see that cuz it's a multiplatform game.

y2kev · « **Reply #54 on:** October 20, 2007, 01:59:08 PM »

Quote from: Kyle on October 20, 2007, 01:54:02 PM

irony, but since this gen has started, the only games company who were advancing in technical department, are Ubisoft.
GRAW1 a first gen xbox 360 game, it beats MGS4 in every way in the graphical department.
Assassin's Creed too, is fuckin' INSANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNE in the graphical department, but fanboys can't see that cuz it's a multiplatform game.

no, sorry, Dcharlie will have to tear that game a new one for its near omnipresent tearing problems and framerate issues.

MCD · « **Reply #55 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:03:35 PM »

Assassin's Creed problem is the rampant screen tearing, if they can fix it, then everything should be alright unless the game sux

but that's talk for another day, kyle, stop derailing this shit.

Kyle · « **Reply #56 on:** October 20, 2007, 02:06:05 PM »

Quote from: McDragon on October 20, 2007, 02:03:35 PM

Assassin's Creed problem is the rampant screen tearing, if they can fix it, then everything should be alright unless the game sux

but that's talk for another day, kyle, stop derailing this shit.

okay McDragon, don't kill me, i don't wanna die :'(

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #57 on:** October 20, 2007, 08:21:52 PM »

Sfags get all worked up about a demo because they don't actually have games to play.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #58 on:** October 20, 2007, 08:24:18 PM »

Dcharlie's trolling skills are awesome.

bud · « **Reply #59 on:** October 20, 2007, 08:28:32 PM »

dc is like the only person this thread talking about ''360 dominance over the ps3''

he's like m0dus and ruzbeh rolled into one amirite

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Author Topic: New GT5 Demo is up on Asia PSN (Read 10579 times)