OMG!! Toshiba HD-A2 @ walmart & Bestbuy for $98 !!!!!!!!!!1111

[Kyle]

http://holiday.ri-walmart.com/?section=secret&utm_source=Walmartcom&utm_medium=POV1&utm_content=secret1&utm_campaign=holiday&povid=cat14503-env15844-module117144-lLink1
I should have wait for the cheapest deal, but hell, i'm gonna pick this up for my family

[Mondain]

no 1080p out = worthless

[CajoleJuice]

It doesn't have HDMI? No wonder it's less than 100 bucks.

[Kyle]

no 1080p out = worthless

at least it's better than 360 add-on, audio superiority, no noise at all while watching

It doesn't have HDMI? No wonder it's less than 100 bucks.

buy a cheap HDMI cable with it.

[Mr. Gundam]

I'd totally get one if it had 1080p support. Wait, this is Walmart. Low price or not, I will not shop there. EVER.

[CajoleJuice]

no 1080p out = worthless

at least it's better than 360 add-on, audio superiority, no noise at all while watching

It doesn't have HDMI? No wonder it's less than 100 bucks.

buy a cheap HDMI cable with it.

I don't mean HDMI cable. I mean HDMI output.

[Smooth Groove]

It could have HDMI.  No 1080p doesn't imply no HDMI, and HDMI doesn't mean there's 1080P.  Don't listen to Jotaro's bull.  This player would support at least 720p&1080I which means that it's perfectly adequete for most TVs.

[brawndolicious]

I'd totally get one if it had 1080p support. Wait, this is Walmart. Low price or not, I will not shop there. EVER.

BUT THEN YOU CAN GIVE MORE CHRISTMAS!

You may want to wait until it's confirmed it 1080P (even if you can't tell the difference).

[TVC15]

no 1080p out = worthless

at least it's better than 360 add-on, audio superiority, no noise at all while watching

It doesn't have HDMI? No wonder it's less than 100 bucks.

buy a cheap HDMI cable with it.

The 360 one supports HDMI if you have a 360 with HDMI.

[Smooth Groove]

no 1080p out = worthless

at least it's better than 360 add-on, audio superiority, no noise at all while watching

It doesn't have HDMI? No wonder it's less than 100 bucks.

buy a cheap HDMI cable with it.

The 360 one supports HDMI if you have a 360 with HDMI.

I have 1 and it's beautiful. 

HDMI 360

According to some AV site, the 360's HDMI video signal is one of the best. 

[Mr. Gundam]

I'd totally get one if it had 1080p support. Wait, this is Walmart. Low price or not, I will not shop there. EVER.

BUT THEN YOU CAN GIVE MORE CHRISTMAS!

You may want to wait until it's confirmed it 1080P (even if you can't tell the difference).

The A2 only outputs up to 1080i, no 1080p. This is pretty common knowledge.

I refuse to shop at Wal-mart, period. They could be giving away free TVs, and I still wouldn't step foot inside that place.

[Mondain]

I'd totally get one if it had 1080p support. Wait, this is Walmart. Low price or not, I will not shop there. EVER.

BUT THEN YOU CAN GIVE MORE CHRISTMAS!

You may want to wait until it's confirmed it 1080P (even if you can't tell the difference).

The A2 only outputs up to 1080i, no 1080p. This is pretty common knowledge.

I refuse to shop at Wal-mart, period. They could be giving away free TVs, and I still wouldn't step foot inside that place.

Why would anyone buy this player when all HDTVs tend towards a standard resolution of 1080p? Your next display will show a poorer signal because of this if it's used in conjunction with this Toshiba. Better get an HD-DVD player that's future-proof.

[CajoleJuice]

I'd totally get one if it had 1080p support. Wait, this is Walmart. Low price or not, I will not shop there. EVER.

BUT THEN YOU CAN GIVE MORE CHRISTMAS!

You may want to wait until it's confirmed it 1080P (even if you can't tell the difference).

The A2 only outputs up to 1080i, no 1080p. This is pretty common knowledge.

I refuse to shop at Wal-mart, period. They could be giving away free TVs, and I still wouldn't step foot inside that place.

Why would anyone buy this player when all HDTVs tend towards a standard resolution of 1080p?

Because they shop at Wal-Mart.

[brawndolicious]

The A2 only outputs up to 1080i, no 1080p. This is pretty common knowledge.

then it's probably not worth getting unless you can't tell the difference between 720P/1080i and 1080P.

[Smooth Groove]

The majority of HDTVS in homes are 720P/1080I.  Most people aren't going to replace those TVs just because of 1080P.   Also, companies are still making and selling 720p/1080I TVs in huge amounts because many people aren't willing to pay the premium for 1080P.  

[TVC15]

I'd totally get one if it had 1080p support. Wait, this is Walmart. Low price or not, I will not shop there. EVER.

BUT THEN YOU CAN GIVE MORE CHRISTMAS!

You may want to wait until it's confirmed it 1080P (even if you can't tell the difference).

The A2 only outputs up to 1080i, no 1080p. This is pretty common knowledge.

I refuse to shop at Wal-mart, period. They could be giving away free TVs, and I still wouldn't step foot inside that place.

Why would anyone buy this player when all HDTVs tend towards a standard resolution of 1080p?

Because they shop at Wal-Mart.

Really, Jotaro, the vast majority of people shopping at Wal Mart probably don't even have HDTVs, nor can they probably even differentiate between 720p and 1080p.

[Eel O'Brian]

I have two friends who chose sides in this format thing, and chose Blu Ray.  They have no players, they're just trading in old DVDs for Blu Ray discs at Moviestop or buying them in the BOGO deals.  Both of them say they're going to buy players when they drop below $200, and I'm all like "Well, have fun watching your movies in Christmas 2008."  Both of them have owned HDTVs for the past couple of years, but have no HD sources running through them.

When I told them about the HD-DVD insanity that's going on, and all these cheap player deals with nutty movie incentives which basically end up giving you the player for free, they both sort of shrugged it off with "those players don't do 1080p."

Here's the kicker:  They both own rear-projection 1080i TVs.

Are my friends:

A)  Morons?

or

B)  Idiots?

[Smooth Groove]

Your friends aren't that bad.  I've seen people buy Hd-dvds for their PS3s.  They're lucky I was there to inform them those discs would be useless in their PS3s. 

[brawndolicious]

somebody in the OA thread mentioned that if film is 24 fps, you shouldn't notice interlaced video...

[Kyle]

no 1080p out = worthless

at least it's better than 360 add-on, audio superiority, no noise at all while watching

It doesn't have HDMI? No wonder it's less than 100 bucks.

buy a cheap HDMI cable with it.

I don't mean HDMI cable. I mean HDMI output.

oh i see, the Toshiba HD-A2 has an HDMI output, but it doesn't have an HDMI cable in the box.

Are my friends:

A)  Morons?

or

B)  Idiots?

both.

[Mondain]

I'd totally get one if it had 1080p support. Wait, this is Walmart. Low price or not, I will not shop there. EVER.

BUT THEN YOU CAN GIVE MORE CHRISTMAS!

You may want to wait until it's confirmed it 1080P (even if you can't tell the difference).

The A2 only outputs up to 1080i, no 1080p. This is pretty common knowledge.

I refuse to shop at Wal-mart, period. They could be giving away free TVs, and I still wouldn't step foot inside that place.

Why would anyone buy this player when all HDTVs tend towards a standard resolution of 1080p?

Because they shop at Wal-Mart.

Really, Jotaro, the vast majority of people shopping at Wal Mart probably don't even have HDTVs, nor can they probably even differentiate between 720p and 1080p.

or differenciate between DVD and HD-DVD

29$ Norcent-branded DVD players for use with their HDTV, that's the Wal-Mart crowd's will

[TVC15]

If I didn't have a 360 drive already, and that wasn't a sale at Wal Mart, I would be interested in that, though.  My TV is 720p/1080i, so 720 is right for me, and by the time I next upgrade my TV, there will be abundant cheap players for whatever format wins.

[Smooth Groove]

If I didn't have a 360 drive already, and that wasn't a sale at Wal Mart, I would be interested in that, though.  My TV is 720p/1080i, so 720 is right for me, and by the time I next upgrade my TV, there will be abundant cheap players for whatever format wins.

Try plugging that drive into your PC.  Watching HD on a mon is pretty cool because you have so many pixels being shown on a tiny display. 

[TVC15]

If I didn't have a 360 drive already, and that wasn't a sale at Wal Mart, I would be interested in that, though.  My TV is 720p/1080i, so 720 is right for me, and by the time I next upgrade my TV, there will be abundant cheap players for whatever format wins.

Try plugging that drive into your PC.  Watching HD on a mon is pretty cool because you have so many pixels being shown on a tiny display. 

I was doing that the other day.  Looks really nice.  I couldn't find a program to take screenshots, though

[Smooth Groove]

If I didn't have a 360 drive already, and that wasn't a sale at Wal Mart, I would be interested in that, though.  My TV is 720p/1080i, so 720 is right for me, and by the time I next upgrade my TV, there will be abundant cheap players for whatever format wins.

Try plugging that drive into your PC.  Watching HD on a mon is pretty cool because you have so many pixels being shown on a tiny display. 

I was doing that the other day.  Looks really nice.  I couldn't find a program to take screenshots, though

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=809002
http://dvr.about.com/od/productreviews/gr/vs11plus.htm

Here're some resources.  Btw, answer my drug questions. 

[Kyle]

[youtube=425,350]WG_lJmxCenI[/youtube]
Walmart HD-DVD Commercial 

[Gay Boy]

I would get that totally but there is no Wal-Marts in my town (Ann Arbor doesn't allow them) and I aint driving forever to find one. Bleh

[Bloodwake]

Oops, looks like I'll be hitting up both HD-DVDs and Blu-Rays come christmas.

[Mupepe]

god jotaro, stfu.  if your tv has a decent scaler at all, setting the hd-a2 to 1080i and letting your tv de-interlace makes it pretty much indistinguishable from native 1080p.

btw, most people don't have any problem with going to wal mart, even if they don't shop there on a regular basis.  These things are not going to sit on the shelf just because the average wal mart shopper doesn't understand HD.  quit living in fucking la-la land.

[cubicle47b]

There Is No Difference Between 1080p and 1080i
My bold-printed, big-lettered breaker above is a little sensationalistic, but, as far as movies are concerned, this is basically true. Here's why. Movies (and most TV shows) are shot at 24 frames per second (either on film or on 24-frame-per-second HD cameras). Every TV sold in the United States has a refresh rate of 60 hertz. This means that the screen refreshes 60 times per second. In order to display 24-frame-per-second content on a display that essentially shows 60 frames per second, you need to make up or create new frames. This is accomplished by a method called 3:2 pulldown (or, more accurately, 2:3 pulldown). It doubles the first frame of film, triples the second frame, doubles the third frame, and so on, creating a 2-3-2-3-2-3 sequence. (Check out Figure 1 for a more colorful depiction.) So, the new frames don't have new information; they are just duplicates of the original film frames. This process converts 24-frame-per-second film to be displayed on a 60-Hz display.

It's Deinterlacing, Not Scaling
HD DVD and Blu-ray content is 1080p/24. If your player outputs a 60-Hz signal (that is, one that your TV can display), the player is adding (creating) the 3:2 sequence. So, whether you output 1080i or 1080p, it is still inherently the same information. The only difference is in whether the player interlaces it and your TV deinterlaces it, or if the player just sends out the 1080p signal directly. If the TV correctly deinterlaces 1080i, then there should be no visible difference between deinterlaced 1080i and direct 1080p (even with that extra step). There is no new information—nor is there more resolution, as some people think. This is because, as you can see in Figure 1, there is no new information with the progressive signal. It's all based on the same original 24 frames per second.

http://www.hometheatermag.com/gearworks/1106gear/

^ That's for all the 1080p douchebags in the thread who probably have 720p sets anyway.

This is an absurd deal.  A $99 HD-A2 plus a monoprice HDMI cable for $10-$15 is a remarkablely cheap buy-in for HD-DVD.

[Mupepe]

There Is No Difference Between 1080p and 1080i
My bold-printed, big-lettered breaker above is a little sensationalistic, but, as far as movies are concerned, this is basically true. Here's why. Movies (and most TV shows) are shot at 24 frames per second (either on film or on 24-frame-per-second HD cameras). Every TV sold in the United States has a refresh rate of 60 hertz. This means that the screen refreshes 60 times per second. In order to display 24-frame-per-second content on a display that essentially shows 60 frames per second, you need to make up or create new frames. This is accomplished by a method called 3:2 pulldown (or, more accurately, 2:3 pulldown). It doubles the first frame of film, triples the second frame, doubles the third frame, and so on, creating a 2-3-2-3-2-3 sequence. (Check out Figure 1 for a more colorful depiction.) So, the new frames don't have new information; they are just duplicates of the original film frames. This process converts 24-frame-per-second film to be displayed on a 60-Hz display.

It's Deinterlacing, Not Scaling
HD DVD and Blu-ray content is 1080p/24. If your player outputs a 60-Hz signal (that is, one that your TV can display), the player is adding (creating) the 3:2 sequence. So, whether you output 1080i or 1080p, it is still inherently the same information. The only difference is in whether the player interlaces it and your TV deinterlaces it, or if the player just sends out the 1080p signal directly. If the TV correctly deinterlaces 1080i, then there should be no visible difference between deinterlaced 1080i and direct 1080p (even with that extra step). There is no new information—nor is there more resolution, as some people think. This is because, as you can see in Figure 1, there is no new information with the progressive signal. It's all based on the same original 24 frames per second.

http://www.hometheatermag.com/gearworks/1106gear/

^ That's for all the 1080p douchebags in the thread who probably have 720p sets anyway.

This is an absurd deal.  A $99 HD-A2 plus a monoprice HDMI cable for $10-$15 is a remarkablely cheap buy-in for HD-DVD.

[Bloodwake]

Well, looks like I'm setting my systems to play in 1080i now.

[bluemax]

I'd try and get one if I didn't think they'd be sold out by the time I can get there.

Then again I live in the fucking ghetto, maybe they will still have one.

I'll see if my GF is interested.

[Kyle]

lol omg HD-A2 $99 @ BestBuy !!

how can i change the thread title Mupepe? 

[MrAngryFace]

mondain just has the shakes cause the ps3 is goin down in flames lol

[Smooth Groove]

mondain just has the shakes cause the ps3 is goin down in flames lol

The Trojan Horse is burning!

[Mr. Gundam]

lol omg HD-A2 $99 @ BestBuy !!
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how can i change the thread title Mupepe? 

Best Buy? Really?

[The Fake Shemp]

With some key exclusives, like Transformers, and cheap hardware... this could be big trouble!

[Mr. Gundam]

I'm starting to get the impression that this is just Toshiba clearing out their stock of HD-A2 models. It's sold out at every single Best Buy I've checked (online locator).

[Mupepe]

I'm starting to get the impression that this is just Toshiba clearing out their stock of HD-A2 models. It's sold out at every single Best Buy I've checked (online locator).

That's what was reported for the sale earlier for $198 by wal mart.  but people on avsforum said that toshiba was looking to continue production specifically for wal mart for a low price