Why do people use ADD as a crutch?

[Himu]

It's not like it's autism or aspergers where you think differently. It's not even a real "learning disorder". Just because you have ADD don't act like its the "disorder's" fault. We all still have choices. Stop acting like you aren't allowed to make your own choices because you fail at life.

[Himu]

That's completely different.

[FlameOfCallandor]

and I guess you never get treated differently because of the colour of your skin either right?
You can't blame that anymore! You still have choices.

B-b-b-b-but you forgot slavery!

[MrAngryFace]

Its been noted that a lot of these conditions are not on the rise per se, its just that doctors and parents are actively looking for the issues. There was a msn article, possibly newsweek just yesterday going over the rise of the aspergers and had a little chart showing levels of aspergers against the top metric of distinguished mentally-challenged, which is kinda silly. I mean kids ARE distinguished mentally-challenged, growing up is to deal with that lol.

Seriously tho, its not so much that people use it as a crutch as they are raised to treat this thing they are given as a crutch. A diagnosis of one of the various disorders that are en vogue these days should be presented as a challenge that should be handled with stoicism. I am not discounting severe cases, but EVERYONE has their quirks, kids are ALWAYS hyperactive and into trouble, I really dont know what has changed. I did so many stupid random things as a kid, I mean I lost count. Yet here I am, perfectly normal.

[Himu]

With ADD you don't have to tell anyone you have it. When it comes to skin color, everyone can see it. I hate it when people use the excuse "I have ADD" for their failures. Just because you forgot your homework assignment, don't tell me it's because you have ADD. That shit is tired. Why would anyone want to fall back on a disorder for their problems?

[FlameOfCallandor]

With ADD you don't have to tell anyone you have it. When it comes to skin color, everyone can see it. I hate it when people use the excuse "I have ADD" for their failures. Just because you forgot your homework assignment, don't tell me it's because you have ADD. That shit is tired. Why would anyone want to fall back on their skin color for their problems?

[MrAngryFace]

People are taught to use it as a crutch. I think if anything this problem stems from a person's desire to shift blame. ADD etc is just backed by the medical establishment.

I don't DOUBT there are serious cases out there, but more often than not the serious cases rarely talk about it and are actually ashamed of it (which isnt right either).

[Himu]

Skin color has nothing to do with this topic, and I hate on blacks who always use their skin color as a crutch regularly. Learn your facts. Get your Ron Paul supporting ass out of here.

[Himu]

I don't DOUBT there are serious cases out there, but more often than not the serious cases rarely talk about it and are actually ashamed of it (which isnt right either).

Pretty much

[Tauntaun]

[MrAngryFace]

I know David E Kelly shows aren't the best example of reality but their aspergers character is really great.

[Himu]

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btw I'm not hating on people who have ADD. I have been diagnosed with ADD myself (i'm not even sure if i really have it?), I'm just curious why people do this.

MAF: What's that show?

[Stocky]

There's no reason to be happy about ADD, or to brag about it.

Unfortunately, I was diagnosed with ADD before it was the cool thing.

[MrAngryFace]

Him: Boston Legal. I think he starts showing up late Season 1. He becomes a regular latter half of Season 3. He's the best character. The best court cases are when he teams up with the cross-dressing laywer.

[Himu]

When was that? For me it was 2000, when I was a freshman in HS.

I was struggling with some of my classes that first semester, including Spanish which I was failing in. Then I started taking meds half way through the semester and ended up pulling that F to a fucking B. I'm not sure if it was the meds or because I tried really hard, but I started to get so good at Spanish, I managed to get an A the next semester and exempt my exam. It was awesome, and the great thing is...I don't remember any Spanish at all anymore!

[Stocky]

There's a certain crutch with it, of course.

Example:
I put my phone down while I went to get a soda, which literally took 30 seconds. I spent the next 30 minutes looking for my phone, because I couldn't remember where I put it.

I'd never want to use it as a crutch, because I don't want it. I just deal with it, and sometimes it can be extremely stressful.

[Bloodwake]

I have been diagnosed with ADD most of my life, and I don't even take medication anymore.

It's a load of bullshit.

[Stocky]

When was that? For me it was 2000, when I was a freshman in HS.

1992.

[MrAngryFace]

Thats just being absent minded. I've put down my glasses to put a shirt on and spent 2 minutes looking for my glasses.

[Himu]

It's not exactly something I'm proud of and that's something I realized once I reached the age of 16.

[Himu]

I have been diagnosed with ADD most of my life, and I don't even take medication anymore.

It's a load of bullshit.

I don't take medicine anymore either.

In High School, I gave Edward (Mupepe) my meds so he could get high sometimes. As a gift for his love and endowment.

[FlameOfCallandor]

It's note exactly something I'm proud of and that's something I realized once I reached the age of 16.

You're ADD?

When you were diagnosed were you given an Anime fanboy starter kit? It seems like every single ADD person I know is huge into anime

[Himu]

I got really heavy into the anime the year I was diagnosed.

[Stocky]

Thats just being absent minded. I've put down my glasses to put a shirt on and spent 2 minutes looking for my glasses.

It's absent minded if it happens every once in awhile. Not when it happens all the time.

It's not just that, either. It's chores, bills, etc. etc. You just forget, and you can't do anything about it besides writing it down Memento style.

[MrAngryFace]

Again, im a skeptic of all internet discriptions of ailments :p

[Stocky]

It's note exactly something I'm proud of and that's something I realized once I reached the age of 16.

You're ADD?

When you were diagnosed were you given an Anime fanboy starter kit? It seems like every single ADD person I know is huge into anime

Did you get a "I'm Gay And It's Ok" starter kit? It seems like every idiot who makes shorts about pinatas happens to be flaming homosexuals.

[Himu]

It's note exactly something I'm proud of and that's something I realized once I reached the age of 16.

You're ADD?

When you were diagnosed were you given an Anime fanboy starter kit? It seems like every single ADD person I know is huge into anime

Did you get a "I'm Gay And It's Ok" starter kit? It seems like every idiot who makes shorts about pinatas happens to be flaming homosexuals.

 

[Stocky]

Again, im a skeptic of all internet discriptions of ailments :p

I'd love to give you a copy, but I'm fresh out of ADD!

[Bloodwake]

Thats just being absent minded. I've put down my glasses to put a shirt on and spent 2 minutes looking for my glasses.

It's absent minded if it happens every once in awhile. Not when it happens all the time.

It's not just that, either. It's chores, bills, etc. etc. You just forget, and you can't do anything about it besides writing it down Memento style.

Yeah, that's basically what happens. My own friends laugh at me and how long it takes me to find everything before we go somewhere to hang out. That part sucks, but you learn to deal with it. And it comes and goes too.

[Himu]

Thats just being absent minded. I've put down my glasses to put a shirt on and spent 2 minutes looking for my glasses.

It's absent minded if it happens every once in awhile. Not when it happens all the time.

It's not just that, either. It's chores, bills, etc. etc. You just forget, and you can't do anything about it besides writing it down Memento style.

Yeah, that's basically what happens. My own friends laugh at me and how long it takes me to find everything before we go somewhere to hang out. That part sucks, but you learn to deal with it. And it comes and goes too.

You won't believe how much i lose my cell phone and keys

[MrAngryFace]

EVERYONE LOSES STUFF wtf guys

[Himu]

BUT I HAVE ADD I'M EXEMPT

[Bloodwake]

EVERYONE LOSES STUFF wtf guys

Everyone loses stuff occasionally. I lose stuff on a daily basis. Important stuff, such as the cell phone, keys, or the worst, the wallet.

But, you learn to manage it well.

AND, I've never lost a pack of cigarettes.

[MrAngryFace]

I check the heaters in my apartment 2-3 times before I leave in the morning, I spend at least 20 seconds twisting and testing the door before im satisfied its locked. Doesnt MEAN anything, just means im weird like everyone else!

[Stocky]

I check the heaters in my apartment 2-3 times before I leave in the morning, I spend at least 20 seconds twisting and testing the door before im satisfied its locked. Doesnt MEAN anything, just means im weird like everyone else!

You also drink alone like everyone else, too.

[Phoenix Dark]

There's a certain crutch with it, of course.

Example:
I put my phone down while I went to get a soda, which literally took 30 seconds. I spent the next 30 minutes looking for my phone, because I couldn't remember where I put it.

I'd never want to use it as a crutch, because I don't want it. I just deal with it, and sometimes it can be extremely stressful.

Sounds like you're more feminine than you portray yourself on the internets. You don't have ADD, go get some hormone treatment.

I agree with MAF. ADD exists, but more often than not parents actively seek out an excuse for their lack of parenting skills and inability to raise their kids. Oh, you forgot to clean your room after I bought you a PS3 and Disneyland tickets so we can be friends? MUST BE ADD HURR

[MrAngryFace]

I check the heaters in my apartment 2-3 times before I leave in the morning, I spend at least 20 seconds twisting and testing the door before im satisfied its locked. Doesnt MEAN anything, just means im weird like everyone else!

You also drink alone like everyone else, too.

Interesting you don't forget that :p

[recursivelyenumerable]

I put my phone down while I went to get a soda, which literally took 30 seconds. I spent the next 30 minutes looking for my phone, because I couldn't remember where I put it.

same here, except it's more liable to be hours.  I'm on my 3rd copy of "Modern Compiler Implementation in ML", $60 apiece.

[Synbios459]

Is it possible to have both ADHD and OCD? A guy I know says he's been diagnosed with both.

[Himu]

add usually brings about one or two other disorders alongside it.

[Fresh Prince]

I once made a thread about ADD but I never got diagnosed. So who knows.
I have an inability to concentrate on a particular job for more than 5 minutes before my mind wonders.
I often zone out while driving etc. I also tend to forget the small thing, if I locked my car, where I put my mobile etc.
The big things I remember fine appointments etc.

[drozmight]

My employer asked us to take this online health assessment. It wasn't required, but there's some raffle for people that do, and free stuff is nice. When I got my results, it said I was at HIGH RISK for Anxiety, Depression and a few other issues like that.

lol.



I should go get diagnosed with all this so I have a life crutch.

[MrAngryFace]

life crutch!

[Phoenix Dark]

life crutch!

i put it down and can't find it now  :'(

[drozmight]

life crutch!


When you lose yer jerb and can't find work, life crutch get you social security!

Yeeaaahhh!!!

Can't finish that test in time? Life crutch gets ya extra time!!! HDZ!



We should see this on late night TV.

[bluemax]

This is why I never got tested for ADD. I don't want to use it as some crutch for my failures. That and I figure most diagnosis of it are bunk.

[bagofeyes]

foc is a racist with add. prolly aids too.

[Fresh Prince]

life crutch!


When you lose yer jerb and can't find work, life crutch get you social security!

Yeeaaahhh!!!

Can't finish that test in time? Life crutch gets ya extra time!!! HDZ!



We should see this on late night TV.

This sounds good.

[warcock]

Clinical drugs = big money = corruption of the psychiatric discipline = happy investors = war in iraq!?!?

End if.

[Takuan]

I once put my wallet on top of my friend's car while getting into the front seat... and left it there.

That's not ADD; that's stupid.

[MrAngryFace]

ADD! YOURE LIKE THAT GUY FROM MEMENTO!

[Prost]

ADD is exactly what the title says, just something for people to blame their suckiness and/or lack of motivation on.

Then again you don't want people committing suicide because of their lack of motivation.  Better to tell someone they have a problem and give them medication before they go crazy about not being any good at something they thought they'd accelerate at.

[Saint Cornelius]

Have you any experience whatsoever with ADD, Prost? Or is this yet another example of your climbing on your soapbox and bleating about something you know absolutely nothing about?

[Prost]

Have you any experience whatsoever with ADD, Prost? Or is this yet another example of your climbing on your soapbox and bleating about something you know absolutely nothing about?

I wrote out a ~paragraph explanation but didn't feel you deserved it saint, so I'll just say yeah, I have had experience with it, for almost a year with medication.

The medication itself is a crutch, you begin to feel like you screwed up here because of your ADHD, which is bullshit because you just weren't motivated enough.

god damn Saint just go away, I post like once a week.

[Saint Cornelius]

Well Prost, as someone who took Strattera for a couple of months at the end of last year - I think you're a pompous windbag.

But I was just looking for an excuse to blame my suckiness & lack of motivation.

[Takuan]

I think that while more individuals are misdiagnosed with ADD than not, there are certainly people out there who have it so bad that it actually cripples them socially and productively.

[MrAngryFace]

ADD exists, I just think there are only a few degrees of it that actually hamper a person's lifestyle. Best case if its not obviously causing them problems operating in day to day life, and I mean major problems, leave the diagnosis in your notes, cause telling a person who has an extremely mild case of a disorder will often escalate the disorder as they try to act more like a person with ADD.

[Smooth Groove]

Most non-alcohol related accidents are probably caused by ADD people. 

[MrAngryFace]

Sometimes people just need to pay attention. Just because a person is not paying attention doesnt mean they have ADD, its another manifestation of LAZY

[Prost]

exactly, i still go into class and one minute I'll be thinking about mission impossible for no particular reason, then i'll go over to some old boss runs on PSU, and this whole random line of thinking completely fucks me during o-chem, so I have to go back and ask questions, not just sit there and be lazy thinking "ahhh i can wing it"

The only thing I probably would have serious problems with is some extremely high level math where if you stop paying attention for a second, it's over.

ADD exists, but it's USED as a crutch.