Author Topic: TONITE: I watch. . . (Read 8726 times)

TVC15 · « **on:** November 09, 2007, 01:00:08 AM »

. . .The Departed, and I determine whether or not it deserves to sniff the shit of Children of Men.

Before I watch, does anyone here think The Departed deserved best picture, or is the general concensus that it was a pity win?

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:06:12 AM »

Well, the Director oscar was the pity oscar.

The Academy was so fucking stupid it didn't even nominate CoM for best picture... and it gave the best editing oscar to the good but inferior Pan's Labyrinth. In 20 years everyone who didn't vote to nominate CoM is going to either be dead or put to death.

TVC15 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:10:43 AM »

Argh, Pan's Labyrinth is totally great, but how could anything win the editing category when put up against CoM? Those long takes will probably never not be impressive!

Also, a few minutes in to The Departed, and Jack is fucking amazing me. He really is one of the best American actors ever. He gets criticized for, well, always being Jack Nicholson, with the same vocal patterns and the same facial expressions, but when he's on and in a role, he's so awesome and hardcore. It's so clear when he gives a fuck about a role.

SpudBud · « **Reply #3 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:11:15 AM »

I liked The Departed, but I'm not sure it deserved the oscar.

TVC15 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:12:33 AM »

WHAT THE FUCK IS MATT DAMON'S ACCENT? He sounds like he belongs in a fucking cartoon.

EDIT: IT'S ANTWON MITCHELL! HE'S BAD! You can tell because he is black.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #5 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:12:45 AM »

Are you watching it in HD? I was disappointed with the PQ on this one.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #6 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:13:41 AM »

Quote from: Eel_O_Brian on November 09, 2007, 01:12:45 AM

Are you watching it in HD? I was disappointed with the PQ on this one.

Which format? I got the BD but I haven't seen it yet.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:15:37 AM »

My favorite films from 2006, in no order:

The Departed
The Fountain
Children of Men
Pan's Labyrinth
The Prestige

Which is the best film? For me it would be between The Departed and Children of Men; The Prestige was the most entertaining to me btw.

The Departed:
+Great actings
+Great script
+Nice pacing
-Questionable editing
-Plot holes
-

Children of Men:
+Stunning cinematography
+Thought provoking
-Slow beginning
-Questionable ending

IMO The Departed is a better film overall, and is better than the other films I listed. Children of Men should have won the cinematography award, and Pan's should have won best foreign picture

TVC15 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:15:44 AM »

Quote from: Eel_O_Brian on November 09, 2007, 01:12:45 AM

Are you watching it in HD? I was disappointed with the PQ on this one.

Yeah, Blu Ray. It's not a particularly impressive transfer. I have it paused right now and there's quite a bit of visible, unintentional grain. It's kind of a trip seeing a crappy looking modern movie after working through 3 pristine looking 20+ year old flicks.

But Scorsese isn't an impressive visual director to begin with, so it's not like it's taking anything away.

Dudes, Matt Damon's accent is terrible. Fuck authenticity, it sounds like he's Bugs Bunny's cousin or something. And I *like* Damon.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #9 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:16:55 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on November 09, 2007, 01:13:41 AM

Quote from: Eel_O_Brian on November 09, 2007, 01:12:45 AM
Are you watching it in HD? I was disappointed with the PQ on this one.

Which format? I got the BD but I haven't seen it yet.

HD DVD

I'd imagine it's the same either way. Way too soft, and quite drab. I'm sure a lot of it is the way it was filmed, but...there were times I thought I was watching an upscaled DVD.

Casino, on the other hand, is a Scorsese flick with a rock-solid HD transfer. It's just beautiful. The Aviator came out this week, and it's gorgeous, too.

bagofeyes · « **Reply #10 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:17:18 AM »

departed was good the first time, but goes downhill sharply on subsequent viewings.

TVC15 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:18:54 AM »

Okay, 2 scenes later and the accent is gone now. I can live with that. Matt "Keanu" Damon.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #12 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:19:35 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 09, 2007, 01:15:44 AM

Dudes, Matt Damon's accent is terrible. Fuck authenticity, it sounds like he's Bugs Bunny's cousin or something. And I *like* Damon.

I kept wondering if that was intentional, because the movie does have cartoonish tendencies.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #13 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:20:31 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 09, 2007, 01:10:43 AM

Argh, Pan's Labyrinth is totally great, but how could anything win the editing category when put up against CoM? Those long takes will probably never not be impressive!

Also, a few minutes in to The Departed, and Jack is fucking amazing me. He really is one of the best American actors ever. He gets criticized for, well, always being Jack Nicholson, with the same vocal patterns and the same facial expressions, but when he's on and in a role, he's so awesome and hardcore. It's so clear when he gives a fuck about a role.

Don't you agree that CoM should've won Cinematography too?

TVC15 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:21:29 AM »

Leo <3

TVC15 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:24:09 AM »

Eh, not very far in, but so far this isn't very interesting.

I really, really love The Aviator, btw. Is that in HD?

Synbios459 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:24:37 AM »

geez tvc watch brobeback mountain, i'd REALLY like to hear what you have to say, PLEASE i'll give you a

TVC15 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:25:55 AM »

Dude, it's Ang Lee. I will fall asleep 20 minutes in, and eventually go back and watch the interesting scenes with scene select. He makes boring movies and I won't knowingly watch something boring.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #18 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:26:18 AM »

Leo is the final De Niro in the Scorsese lifechart

And yes, Aviator is out on HD DVD and Blu Ray - surprisingly, it was not stripped of all the special features from the DVD set, and remains intact.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #19 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:26:24 AM »

I have to say I enjoyed The Departed more than Children of Men. I love both movies though.

Synbios459 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:26:48 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 09, 2007, 01:25:55 AM

Dude, it's Ang Lee. I will fall asleep 20 minutes in, and eventually go back and watch the interesting scenes with scene select. He makes boring movies and I won't knowingly watch something boring.

but it has your kind of people in it.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #21 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:27:12 AM »

dude why not get off the computer and actually watch the damn movie

TVC15 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:27:33 AM »

Quote from: Eel_O_Brian on November 09, 2007, 01:26:18 AM

Leo is the final De Niro in the Scorsese lifechart

And yes, Aviator is out on HD DVD and Blu Ray - surprisingly, it was not stripped of all the special features from the DVD set, and remains intact.

I will have to nab that. I am actually a pretty big Leo booster. He is a talented actor, and he's gotten pretty decent at picking good roles after a fairly rough period.

Quote

dude why not get off the computer and actually watch the damn movie

I am watching it. I have my laptop in my lap.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:30:02 AM »

but you aren't paying attention. film must be digested with no distractions in the way. don't make me write 4000 words

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #24 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:30:37 AM »

The only problem I have with The Aviator is Cate Blanchett's Katherine Hepburn - she did a good job, but I almost wish she hadn't tried to sound like her. It's impossible to do a Katherine Hepburn voice without it sounding like a vocal caricature.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #25 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:30:57 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 09, 2007, 01:15:37 AM

My favorite films from 2006, in no order:

The Departed
The Fountain
Children of Men
Pan's Labyrinth
The Prestige

Which is the best film? For me it would be between The Departed and Children of Men; The Prestige was the most entertaining to me btw.

The Departed:
+Great actings
+Great script
+Nice pacing
-Questionable editing
-Plot holes
-

Children of Men:
+Stunning cinematography
+Thought provoking
-Slow beginning
-Questionable ending

IMO The Departed is a better film overall, and is better than the other films I listed. Children of Men should have won the cinematography award, and Pan's should have won best foreign picture

lollerskates, pee dee thinks that "questionable endings" are bad points when talking about a film.

"THIS WASN'T PAINTED IN SIMPLE BLACK AND WHITE TERMS FOR MY MEAGER, UNFORGIVEN-HATING INTELLECT TO UNNERSTAND. ME NO LIKEY, I WATCH FORREST GUMP INSTEAD"

TVC15 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:31:08 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 09, 2007, 01:30:02 AM

but you aren't paying attention. film must be digested with no distractions in the way. don't make me write 4000 words

If the film demanded my attention, I would gladly give it. So far, it hasn't.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #27 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:32:12 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on November 09, 2007, 01:30:57 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 09, 2007, 01:15:37 AM
My favorite films from 2006, in no order:

The Departed
The Fountain
Children of Men
Pan's Labyrinth
The Prestige

Which is the best film? For me it would be between The Departed and Children of Men; The Prestige was the most entertaining to me btw.

The Departed:
+Great actings
+Great script
+Nice pacing
-Questionable editing
-Plot holes
-

Children of Men:
+Stunning cinematography
+Thought provoking
-Slow beginning
-Questionable ending

IMO The Departed is a better film overall, and is better than the other films I listed. Children of Men should have won the cinematography award, and Pan's should have won best foreign picture

lollerskates, pee dee thinks that "questionable endings" are bad points when talking about a film.

"THIS WASN'T PAINTED IN SIMPLE BLACK AND WHITE TERMS FOR MY MEAGER, UNFORGIVEN-HATING INTELLECT TO UNNERSTAND. ME NO LIKEY, I WATCH FORREST GUMP INSTEAD"

Dude give me a break, I gave it a 9.5. And while I like the ending, I felt it could have been handled differently. I really need to see it again

drohne · « **Reply #28 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:34:02 AM »

i think the departed is pretty great. it doesn't have the sheer momentum and visual exuberance of goodfellas -- nor are its choices of pop music nearly as inspired. so it probably was a makeup oscar to some degree. but dicaprio and damon are really good, in really different ways -- dicaprio's immediacy and vulnerability, the sense damon conveys of a man falling apart behind an increasingly false exterior. i watched infernal affairs earlier this year, and the departed actually loses some of that movie's geometric plotting and allegorical chill -- they're interesting to compare

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #29 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:38:07 AM »

my problem with com's ending was that it wasn't ambiguous enough, and any interpretation other than the obvious one is the result of either a) cognitive dissonance; or b) a massive contrarian streak.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #30 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:38:42 AM »

pd, quit scoring shit. you suck at it!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #31 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:40:07 AM »

Children of Men: 9.5
Pan's: 9
The Fountain: 9
The Prestige: 9
The Departed: 9.5

Ed Wood: 8
Catch Me If You Can: 9

TVC15 · « **Reply #32 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:40:52 AM »

I've been watching mostly foreign movies, so one thing that is painfully sticking out to me about the acting in The Departed: All the big name actors are doing great jobs, but incedental characters, characters that just have one line or something, the drop in quality is huge. In Children of Men, even people that just have one or two lines appear to be like, pros, but in The Departed, any actor that you see that you do not know the name of, chances are they will deliver any lines they have kinda like, badly. I think that's just a difference between good foreign films and the american way of making movies.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #33 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:41:59 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on November 09, 2007, 01:38:07 AM

my problem with com's ending was that it wasn't ambiguous enough, and any interpretation other than the obvious one is the result of either a) cognitive dissonance; or b) a massive contrarian streak.

I would've liked it if it just ended with them in that little boat.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #34 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:43:16 AM »

tvc: so i'm not the only person who hated damon's partner? his "no time to be made sergeant" line delivery in the beginning of the film is just so dumb.

TVC15 · « **Reply #35 on:** November 09, 2007, 01:47:27 AM »

Man, I always forget how much I like Leo between catching him in movies. He's really good.

Kinda getting into it now.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #36 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:05:20 AM »

Leo is quickly becoming one of my fav actors, although I still will never see Titanic. I saw Catch Me If You Can last week and it was really good, in part due to his great performance

Ichirou · « **Reply #37 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:14:22 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 09, 2007, 02:05:20 AM

Leo is quickly becoming one of my fav actors, although I still will never see Titanic. I saw Catch Me If You Can last week and it was really good, in part due to his great performance

You should watch Titanic. You get to see Kate Winslet's boob.

TVC15 · « **Reply #38 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:16:55 AM »

Does Leo ever get to suck Jack Nicholson's dick? That would rock.

So far, I like the Leo and Jack stuff, but the Damon stuff isn't doing anything for me. Leo and Jack are awesome, though.

TVC15 · « **Reply #39 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:25:32 AM »

Those "oxycontin" pills in no way resembled at all what oxycontin looks like.

warcock · « **Reply #40 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:35:23 AM »

Children of men might be a great movie but i cant watch it simply because of the distinguished mentally-challenged concept its based on.

TVC15 · « **Reply #41 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:35:59 AM »

Just over an hour in, and the movie is losing me.

It's decently made and Jack and Leo are great, but this is all about the plot, nothing thinky or heavily thematic about it. And for a movie about cops and moles and the like, it's really not doing anything special. After 4 seasons of The Shield, this is all pretty much zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

warcock · « **Reply #42 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:38:39 AM »

FAP TO THE HOTS.

Ichirou · « **Reply #43 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:41:35 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 09, 2007, 02:35:59 AM

Just over an hour in, and the movie is losing me.

It's decently made and Jack and Leo are great, but this is all about the plot, nothing thinky or heavily thematic about it. And for a movie about cops and moles and the like, it's really not doing anything special. After 4 seasons of The Shield, this is all pretty much zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

It's pretty funny that when Scorsese was interviewed, the reason he gave for initially not wanting to do it is exactly what you're complaining about; it was a plot-based movie rather than a character-based movie, which is what he likes to do.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #44 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:42:54 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 09, 2007, 02:35:59 AM

Just over an hour in, and the movie is losing me.

It's decently made and Jack and Leo are great, but this is all about the plot, nothing thinky or heavily thematic about it. And for a movie about cops and moles and the like, it's really not doing anything special. After 4 seasons of The Shield, this is all pretty much zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You should watch Season 5, btw. Insanity.

TVC15 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:43:15 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on November 09, 2007, 02:41:35 AM

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 09, 2007, 02:35:59 AM
Just over an hour in, and the movie is losing me.

It's decently made and Jack and Leo are great, but this is all about the plot, nothing thinky or heavily thematic about it. And for a movie about cops and moles and the like, it's really not doing anything special. After 4 seasons of The Shield, this is all pretty much zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

It's pretty funny that when Scorsese was interviewed, the reason he gave for initially not wanting to do it is exactly what you're complaining about; it was a plot-based movie rather than a character-based movie, which is what he likes to do.

Oddly enough, the reasons I'm still watching are Jack and Leo.

I can't see how people can say they don't like the deliberate pacing of CoM, but they're cool with this.

Quote from: CajoleJuice on November 09, 2007, 02:42:54 AM

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 09, 2007, 02:35:59 AM
Just over an hour in, and the movie is losing me.

It's decently made and Jack and Leo are great, but this is all about the plot, nothing thinky or heavily thematic about it. And for a movie about cops and moles and the like, it's really not doing anything special. After 4 seasons of The Shield, this is all pretty much zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You should watch Season 5, btw. Insanity.

I'm waiting for 6 to come out so I can watch them in a row. 6 should come out right before 7 airs, so it will be a good time. I can finish up the series in one go.

warcock · « **Reply #46 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:47:09 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on November 09, 2007, 01:15:37 AM

Children of Men:
+Stunning cinematography
+Thought provoking
-Slow beginning
-Questionable ending

IMO The Departed is a better film overall, and is better than the other films I listed. Children of Men should have won the cinematography award, and Pan's should have won best foreign picture

"+Thought provoking."

explain? I hope its a socially oriented thesis and not biologically unsound WHAT IFs.

TVC15 · « **Reply #47 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:48:43 AM »

Warcock, you're distinguished mentally-challenged, as evidenced by:

Quote from: warcock on November 09, 2007, 02:35:23 AM

Children of men might be a great movie but i cant watch it simply because of the distinguished mentally-challenged concept its based on.

so shut up.

warcock · « **Reply #48 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:53:31 AM »

blow me taco. Isn't the gist of the story that suddenly All females in the whole wide world become sterile, minus one. And then drama ensues, for fuck's sake the day after tommorow is more likely to occur. What makes the film so good? Clive owen can wipe the sweat off my balls.

TVC15 · « **Reply #49 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:55:35 AM »

So you haven't even seen the movie, warcock? Figures. I'm not going to waste my breath, except to say: the premise of the world isn't the whole movie; it's a part of the setup.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #50 on:** November 09, 2007, 02:56:24 AM »

the fuck, warcock? the premise is fine. they don't even posit WHY women are becoming sterile, so complaining about it as though its implausible is so disingenuous as to require a whole new word for the notion of extreme disingenuity. the fuck!

warcock · « **Reply #51 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:00:14 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 09, 2007, 02:55:35 AM

So you haven't even seen the movie, warcock? Figures. I'm not going to waste my breath, except to say: the premise of the world isn't the whole movie; it's a part of the setup.

I thought that post that you actually quoted made it quite clear that i didn't watch it and that im interested in knowing whats interesting besides the "setup". $:-\$

Drinky: Yes but the laymen around me were jizzing about the fact that it was a brilliant take on world apocalypze and that the action was great...

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #52 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:02:14 AM »

because it has GORGEOUS FUCKING CINEMATOGRAPHY and a FUCKING GREAT CLIVE OWEN PERFORMANCE? i wasn't as enthralled by it as some folks were, but it was definitely worth watching, dune coon. it might not be 2 fast 2 furious enough for you, though!

warcock · « **Reply #53 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:03:09 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on November 09, 2007, 03:02:14 AM

because it has GORGEOUS FUCKING CINEMATOGRAPHY and a FUCKING GREAT CLIVE OWEN PERFORMANCE? i wasn't as enthralled by it as some folks were, but it was definitely worth watching, dune coon. it might not be 2 fast 2 furious enough for you, though!

NOTED, now if i could get my fat ass to do something else then study and play tf2 :/

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #54 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:03:20 AM »

it's not a brilliant take on a world apocalypse, but complaining about that is like complaining that 2001 isn't a brilliant take on space exploration. jesus -- i mean MOHAMMED -- watch it and make your mind up for yourself

warcock · « **Reply #55 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:05:03 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on November 09, 2007, 03:03:20 AM

it's not a brilliant take on a world apocalypse, but complaining about that is like complaining that 2001 isn't a brilliant take on space exploration. jesus -- i mean MOHAMMED -- watch it and make your mind up for yourself

Yeah i dont have much of an excuse actually. I did watch rush hour 3 at the movies... But hey i had rewardz to reapz.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #56 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:08:06 AM »

complaining about the plot of com or any sci fi movie creates a big ass slippery slope duder.

TVC15 · « **Reply #57 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:08:59 AM »

warcock: Children of Men paints what feels like a fairly realistic, atmospheric near future. Mankind is on the brink of extinction, and not just because of the sterility issue. The movie is increidbly immersive, and really, really nice looking.

Despite having a science fiction/speculative setting, it touches on a number of relevant themes, from religion, to terrorism, and to how near mankind is from destroying itself at any given moment. Despite dealing with Heavy Things, the movie never feels particularly preachy, though it does walk a fine line. Also, despite dealing with heavy things, it's doesn't feel like a particularly heavy movie. It spends some time establishing itself (this didn't bug me because the movie looks great and is very immersive, although some people apparently think it's too long), but once it gets moving, it's really a stone's throw away from being an adventure movie.

The actual plot, the movement of the story, is really fairly thin. I felt like the whole purpose of the movie was to give me an overview of this near future, realistic world. The whole movie feels really real.

Performances are fantastic, all around, and there are even some great action sequences, most notably a great gunfight towards the end. And the whole movie looks jizzingly awesome.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #58 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:10:43 AM »

can we all agree the battlefield tracking shot at the end>goodfellas tracking shot?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #59 on:** November 09, 2007, 03:10:57 AM »

oh yes

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Author Topic: TONITE: I watch. . . (Read 8726 times)