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Official MF DOOM appreciation thread



WHO IS DOOM:o

Definition "super-villain": a killer who loves children
One who is well-skilled in destruction, as well as buildin'


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Dumile, the son of a Trinidadian mother and Zimbabwean father, was born in Southeast London, England,[1] then moved with his family to New York and was raised in Long Island.

As Zev Love X, he formed the group KMD with his younger brother Subroc and another MC called Onyx The Birthstone Kid.[1] A&R Dante Ross learned of KMD from the rap group 3rd Bass, and signed them to Elektra Records.

Subroc was struck and killed by a car in 1993 while attempting to cross a Long Island expressway before the release of a second KMD album entitled Black Bastards. With the loss of his brother, Dumile retreated from the hip-hop scene from 1994-1997. He testifies to disillusionment and depression, living "damn near homeless, walking the streets of Manhattan, sleeping on benches". In the late 1990s, he left New York City and settled in Atlanta. According to interviews with DOOM, he was also "recovering from his wounds" and swearing revenge "against the industry that so badly deformed him."

Dumile began to rap at open mic events at the Nuyorican Poets Café in 1998 where he withheld his face by putting a stocking over his head. His new identity was influenced by Marvel Comics supervillain Dr. Doom. He wears the mask while performing and isn't photographed without it, except for very short glimpses in videos such as Viktor Vaughn's "Mr. Clean" and in earlier photos with KMD

The release of Operation: Doomsday in 1999 by independent label Fondle 'Em marked the official turning point for Dumile in his reinvention of himself from a major label recording artist of minor status to independent artist, where he would find his greatest success.

The following year, he began releasing albums of instrumental work, a series known as Special Herbs.



For the last month or so I've been essentially listening to MF DOOM nonstop. My taste in hip hop has been pretty rooted in conscious "back pack" rap for some time, but now I'm slowly getting into the more raw, less refined branch of alternative hip hop. Calling MF DOOM raw may be an understatement. His slurred, intoxicated monotone flow is almost less polished than the RZA's. Yet this maniacal flow is one of his charms, along with his unique wordplay and crazy lyrics.


Givin' y'all nothing but the lick like two broads
Got more lyrics than the church got 'Ooh Lawds
And he hold the mic and your attention like two swords
Or even one with two blades on it
Hey you, don't touch the mic like it's got AIDS on it
It's like the end to the means
Fucked type of message that sends to the fiends
That's why he brings his own needles
And get more cheese than Doritos, Cheetos or Fritos

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And while he's definitely an inventive rapper, he's an even better producer. His sample technique avoids the generic 60's soul of his more mainstream peers, instead focusing on obscure 80's R&B and cartoon samples. Yes, cartoon samples. From the Fantastic Four cartoon dialogue that sets the mood for his albums to actually sampling music from Scooby Doo, his beats are insane.

I was first introduced to Doom a year ago, but simply blew him off as a lazy ass MC. But after hearing his 2004 album Mm Food last month, I was instantly hooked

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Great album, and features some pretty sweet guest appearances. After that I checked out DOOM's album with the awesome producer Madlib. Together they are Madvillain

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The album received universal praise and secured DOOM's place in rap. The production is once again amazing, and DOOM delivers great wordplay here.

Yesterday I got DOOM's debut album...

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Considered an indie classic, Operation Doomsday is really DOOM at his rawest. The mix quality is low, as is the vocal quality even by DOOM's standards. Yet despite this, every song is worth checking out and there are more than a few standout tracks. I'm still "disgesting" the album, but right now this is perhaps my favorite album of his. But if you're going to get into MF DOOM I'd suggest you cop Mm Food first.



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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2007, 12:52:48 AM »
He's distinguished mentally-challenged? What?

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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 12:55:22 AM »
They are remaking The 300 with an all black cast?

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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2007, 01:29:59 AM »
Got mo' cheese than doritios, fritos or cheetos.
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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2007, 01:45:24 AM »
He's distinguished mentally-challenged? What?

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distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man
Stand close to his main man like a chain gang
Who give a fuck about who or they fancy crew
That's no mystery that Hardy Boys do with Nancy Drew
Sorta with her drawers down quarter
The extorter bring slaughter like "Well I oughta"
I suggest you hand over the formula dula?
A villain in your land, in his land a ruler
Hard hitting like puffin a woola with Lieutenant Uhura
Everyday feel like its an off day with Ferris Bueller
Brother pull heat to prove they're not sweet
No matter how you spell it, we still got beats
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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2007, 08:32:27 PM »
Yeah, I gotta say Doomsday>>Mm Food. I definitely like both albums, but Doomsday is more focused. While I love the instrumental sample tracks on Mm Food, there just aren't enough actual songs on the album. Three instrumental tracks in a row? Eh

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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2007, 08:57:49 PM »
wtf how did i not see this thread?!

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:heartbeat "dead bent"
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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2007, 09:10:38 PM »
:bow

omg i love doc octagon.  earth people :hyper
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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2007, 09:14:17 PM »
Dead Bent is amazing, although on the album it's hella low quality; the volume is kinda low. I heard the album may be remastered and released again, and if so I'll definitely buy it.

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that beat/sample=  :o
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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2007, 09:14:57 PM »
pd, did you like the dangerdoom album?

holy shit, i just got this off wikipedia:
MF DOOM will also be doing production on the second album of past collaborator, Kurious which is due early 2008.

kurious hasn't had an album since '94  :o
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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2007, 09:19:15 PM »
I haven't heard the entire thing, but I've liked much of what I heard. The song with Ghostface is pretty damn awesome.

Dangerdoom was actually the first time I heard Doom. At the time I wasn't really into it outside of the ATHF song; as I said earlier, Doom just sounded bored/lazy to me. You like it?
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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2007, 09:19:39 PM »
I thought this thread would be about that episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia...
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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2007, 09:26:15 PM »
I haven't heard the entire thing, but I've liked much of what I heard. The song with Ghostface is pretty damn awesome.

Dangerdoom was actually the first time I heard Doom. At the time I wasn't really into it outside of the ATHF song; as I said earlier, Doom just sounded bored/lazy to me. You like it?

yea at first i was pretty skeptical of the album, but when i heard dangermouse was on production it was a must-listen.  i'm a big fan of dangermouse's earlier works when he released his works as "pelican city" (which sound NOTHING like his newer stuff).  the beats are perfect for doom's flow, and i'm pretty sure doom had his hand in lots of it.  still, i like his earlier works better.  but it's a damn good album.
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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2007, 09:36:16 PM »
I'll have to listen to the whole thing soon; right now I'm spazzing over Doomsday. And I need to find this older Dangermouse stuff lol

Have you listened to his King Geedorah album? I heard a couple good songs on youtube, but it seems like MF DOOM only appears on like two songs; he produces the rest, and other rappers do the MCing.

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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2007, 03:29:33 AM »
Finally an update  :pimp

Doom won an MTVu award for the Monkey Suite video, and in his taped acceptance speech he mentions new Doom, Madvillian, and Doom Sparks (Ghostface collab) albums. But what's even more interesting is his appearance...
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=329175154

He's lost a lot of weight
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Re: distinguished mentally-challenged in real life, on the mic Rain Man...
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2007, 12:37:09 AM »
Vaudeville Villain - Viktor Vaughn


Under the new alias Viktor Vaughn, MF DOOM released his second solo album Vaunderville in 2003. This is the first album where DOOM didn't provide any production. Instead all 17 tracks are produced by a wide array of producers, mainly from Sound Ink.

Perhaps because he focused solely on rhyming for the album, DOOM sounds more focused than ever with an unusual amount of energy in his flow. Lyrically the album is a collection of clever metaphors, hilarious quips, and bizarre threats of violence. Here DOOM is clearly a villian, laying out crime tales over cryptically futuristic beats. Topics cover all the basics, from romantic relationships with underage girls to soliciting Guyanese strippers. Unlike the Madvillain album here you truly get the impression that you're listening to the ramblings of an evil villain with a sick sense of humor.

While the production rarely hits you across the face like other DOOM albums, it definitely does the job. Perhaps the standout track is Saliva and its mixture of horns. Lickopon flips a familiar Biggie beat (Warning) and manages to give it even more funk. There are so many standout tracks here in fact - on Let Me Watch DOOM manages to disgust his first love so much she declares "I'd rather masturbate than fuck with Vik Vaughn", which is kinda hot until you remember she's probably 16

Overall this is another amazing album from DOOM, and perhaps his best solo work. It's more focused than Mm Food, and while the production isn't better I'd say it has more standout tracks. Hell I'm tempted to say it's better than Madvillain, but I'll have to listen some more before taking that position lol

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