Author Topic: Assassin's Creed: The Definitive Evilbore Review (Read 12847 times)

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #60 on:** November 17, 2007, 06:23:32 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on November 17, 2007, 06:13:45 PM

If you were truly weak, you'd just buy another 360.

I've actually had quite a few people tell me to do just that. Or buy one at Walmart, put the broke one in the box, and return it to get my money back. Not really sure if I want to go that route or not. Still waiting for my shipping box from MS though....

Quote from: Smooth Groove

Surprisingly, J-rzez said that control preferences is why he went with the PS3 version.

J-Rzez said that? Well that IS surprising. Who would've thunk that he'd go with the PS3 version.

I swear that guy must have a Six Axis shoved up his butt.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #61 on:** November 17, 2007, 06:24:40 PM »

360 version has better textures, more consistent frame rate, better lighting/shadows (as usual), less visual glitches and 2xAA.

ps3 version has better fog volumes for some reason, supposedly.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #62 on:** November 17, 2007, 06:44:14 PM »

It sounds like BlimBlim was throwing the PS3 a bone

and I just remembered who j-rez was and lol'ed then pee'ed a lil'

Mupepe · « **Reply #63 on:** November 17, 2007, 07:05:51 PM »

i have this game in my hands but can't play it for a few hours

y2kev · « **Reply #64 on:** November 17, 2007, 07:13:16 PM »

Aggressive modifier is mapped to R1 in the PS3 version and not R2. I think.

MCD · « **Reply #65 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:35:18 AM »

Where to now?

Acre or Jerusalem...hmm...

Himu · « **Reply #66 on:** November 18, 2007, 01:29:32 PM »

Man. Why are people so conflicted between 360 and ps3 versions? I dunno if this is just me, but even if I had a ps3, I'd still pick the 360 version for fucking achievements. They are a sickness.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #67 on:** November 18, 2007, 02:34:25 PM »

McDragon: I went to Acre first, great area. I also stick around after the job is done and take the long way back 'to base' so I can try and complete a few more objectives and lengthen my sync bar.

MCD · « **Reply #68 on:** November 18, 2007, 04:52:20 PM »

I'm at the gate of Jerusalem, too late to go back now.

and i love how the guards talk different languages.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #69 on:** November 18, 2007, 06:25:47 PM »

The templars rock, as you approach them they boast in french.

MCD · « **Reply #70 on:** November 18, 2007, 06:31:46 PM »

French? i thought it was German

and i think i heard Persian, and definitely Arabic.

Himu · « **Reply #71 on:** November 18, 2007, 06:38:22 PM »

I heard some people speaking Arabic

MCD · « **Reply #72 on:** November 18, 2007, 07:05:15 PM »

Yes, and the Arabic here is pretty well done compared to other games.

Mupepe · « **Reply #73 on:** November 18, 2007, 07:22:13 PM »

i have put like 11 hours in since i got it yesterday. it's been disgustingly awesome.

i'm going back to it in a few.

Also, my 360 has frozen twice throughout the 11 hours. anyone else encounter freezing? :'(

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #74 on:** November 18, 2007, 07:24:57 PM »

Yeah, while my 360 never red rings I get bizzare disc dirty errors n stuff with games.

MCD · « **Reply #75 on:** November 18, 2007, 07:25:10 PM »

It could be Ubisoft and their usual bugs.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #76 on:** November 18, 2007, 07:30:53 PM »

nah DW: Gundam has issues too, I mean granted its over hours and hours, but the disc isnt dirty you dumb awesome console

Mupepe · « **Reply #77 on:** November 18, 2007, 07:31:40 PM »

well this is the ONLY game my 360 has ever frozen on and it did it twice in like 30 minutes, which kind of scares me.

my 360 has never frozen before :'(

...GOTY!

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #78 on:** November 18, 2007, 07:36:24 PM »

mine freezes from time to time, not REALLY concerned.

MCD · « **Reply #79 on:** November 18, 2007, 07:38:01 PM »

MAF: I'd clean/change the lens if this problem keeps appearing.

Mupepe: maybe it's internet related? try playing without going online.

and if all games play fine, then no worries, also shut it down for a few minutes just in case.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #80 on:** November 18, 2007, 07:54:31 PM »

its really just gundam lol

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #81 on:** November 18, 2007, 08:01:44 PM »

My brand-new Elite 360 I've had less than a month froze in the first few minutes of this game. Hasn't done it since, and hasn't ever done it with any other game.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #82 on:** November 18, 2007, 08:09:32 PM »

Its sad but wrestling with PC apps has made me somewhat immune to the anger issues like this.

Himu · « **Reply #83 on:** November 18, 2007, 08:13:29 PM »

My 360 has frozen on other games, but it's rare. It hasn't frozen on AC yet though. One game has given me the dirty disc thing, and that's Dead Rising.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #84 on:** November 18, 2007, 08:14:17 PM »

It didn't get me angry, I just kind of rolled my eyes and thought "Oh, MS, hardware lol"

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #85 on:** November 18, 2007, 08:15:54 PM »

Yeah same

Himu · « **Reply #86 on:** November 18, 2007, 08:22:04 PM »

Quote from: Eel_O_Brian on November 18, 2007, 08:14:17 PM

It didn't get me angry, I just kind of rolled my eyes and thought "Oh, MS, hardware lol"

yeap

TVC15 · « **Reply #87 on:** November 18, 2007, 08:25:58 PM »

It hasn't frozen on me, but I have encountered severe bugs that have forced me to reset twice. Once was a falling through the floor bug (which I can repeat) and the second was a scripting bug involving the assassination

spoiler (click to show/hide)

where you kill Bz

[close]

Mupepe · « **Reply #88 on:** November 18, 2007, 09:11:06 PM »

i've encountered a bug a few times where if you fall off a high area and land right where the wall and ground meet, you'll disappear and can't move. but if you're being chased, they can still see you and atack you. they can't grab you either.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #89 on:** November 18, 2007, 09:26:10 PM »

God, I got to one of the bigger cities and the amount of buildings and traversable area in general with these visuals is a bit staggering. This is essentially GTA4 before GTA4, R* really need to up the anti.

Himu · « **Reply #90 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:46:54 PM »

What city?

TVC15 · « **Reply #91 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:49:08 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on November 18, 2007, 10:46:54 PM

What city?

When fully opened, each of the three cities is probably just a teensy bit smaller than any of the cities in GTA:SA. But keep in mind the layouts are different. The cities here are much more crowded, but they generally aren't as hilly.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #92 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:50:32 PM »

TVC, how does AC compare to Uncharted visually?

Himu · « **Reply #93 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:51:06 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 18, 2007, 10:49:08 PM

Quote from: Himuro on November 18, 2007, 10:46:54 PM
What city?

When fully opened, each of the three cities is probably just a teensy bit smaller than any of the cities in GTA:SA. But keep in mind the layouts are different. The cities here are much more crowded, but they generally aren't as hilly.

oh my god

y2kev · « **Reply #94 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:51:44 PM »

The important thing to realize is that the cities are like multilayered cities onto themselves. No city in GTA ever came close to being this "interactive."

TVC15 · « **Reply #95 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:52:36 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on November 18, 2007, 10:50:32 PM

TVC, how does AC compare to Uncharted visually?

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that's a toughie and I can't really answer it being that I haven't played nearly as much uncharted.

I'll give the image quality edge to AC, though. Uncharted has some shimmering going on, whereas AC is rock solid. They both have minor tearing issues. AC has far more people on screen at once, far far more, but Uncharted has more environmental detail. AC has better lighting, too.

It's a tossup, really. Both are the best looking games to hit this year.

Himu · « **Reply #96 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:53:41 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on November 18, 2007, 10:51:44 PM

The important thing to realize is that the cities are like multilayered cities onto themselves. No city in GTA ever came close to being this "interactive."

How are they so multilayered? Do you mean being able to climb on top of anything or what?

y2kev · « **Reply #97 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:55:55 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on November 18, 2007, 10:53:41 PM

Quote from: y2kev on November 18, 2007, 10:51:44 PM
The important thing to realize is that the cities are like multilayered cities onto themselves. No city in GTA ever came close to being this "interactive."

How are they so multilayered? Do you mean being able to climb on top of anything or what?

I mean you've got the street paths, and then you've got the roof paths, and also there are intermediary objects in the middle you can use to escape.

This game must have had a fucking army of level designers.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #98 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:56:57 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on November 18, 2007, 10:52:36 PM

Quote from: Smooth Groove on November 18, 2007, 10:50:32 PM
TVC, how does AC compare to Uncharted visually?

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that's a toughie and I can't really answer it being that I haven't played nearly as much uncharted.

I'll give the image quality edge to AC, though. Uncharted has some shimmering going on, whereas AC is rock solid. They both have minor tearing issues. AC has far more people on screen at once, far far more, but Uncharted has more environmental detail. AC has better lighting, too.

It's a tossup, really. Both are the best looking games to hit this year.

That's pretty impressive that AC has better image quality than Uncharted. Other than the tearing, Uncharted's IQ is quite nice. Judging from the demo, Uncharted's one of the least aliased PS3 games and also has some of the crispest textures. I guess Abrader's full of shit again when he said that Uncharted makes AC look last gen.

TVC15 · « **Reply #99 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:59:18 PM »

I dunno, in the jungle areas of Uncharted, I recall shimmering. Nothing terrible, but it was there; on the edges of leaves and what not. Like I said, it wasn't bad, but it's a nit to pick, an you're asking for nits if you want me to compare these two excellent looking games. We, the gamers, are the winners here!

Himu · « **Reply #100 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:00:17 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on November 18, 2007, 10:55:55 PM

Quote from: Himuro on November 18, 2007, 10:53:41 PM
Quote from: y2kev on November 18, 2007, 10:51:44 PM
The important thing to realize is that the cities are like multilayered cities onto themselves. No city in GTA ever came close to being this "interactive."

How are they so multilayered? Do you mean being able to climb on top of anything or what?
I mean you've got the street paths, and then you've got the roof paths, and also there are intermediary objects in the middle you can use to escape.

This game must have had a fucking army of level designers.

While that's true, GTA was never really about climbing on top of buildings and crap. I mean, you can do it, and many extras and secret weapons are found in areas like that, but it's not an emphasis. Plus, do you really think they could everything Assassin's Creed is doing with last gen technology? I don't think it's fair to really compare that to GTA yet, I'm waiting for GTA4 to come out before I make a statement like that.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #101 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:01:03 PM »

UC has some pretty awful screen-tearing actually. It also has a very cunning cheatsome lighting model that would do John Carmack proud, and it has a protagonist with the most gi-normous head EVER. There must be BILLIONS of polys in Nate Drake's monstrous celestial body of a noggin! I'd give the graphic edge to AC over UC -- barely -- although UC has the bestest water effects I've seen.

y2kev · « **Reply #102 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:01:46 PM »

I'm not saying AC > GTA, himu. Just that I appreciate what AC is doing.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #103 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:01:53 PM »

Well, they've got to look better than Mr Gay. Despite all the rave reviews from EBers and pro critics, I'm loath to start Mr Gay because I know the graphics'll be shit. If Mass Effect comes out before I finish R&C, it might be my next game instead of Mr Gay.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #104 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:02:31 PM »

also, AC character models and animation poopy-caca all over UC's weird-looking humanthings.

TVC15 · « **Reply #105 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:02:38 PM »

Have you seen the water in AC yet, Prole? It's no slouch itself, although you don't get to play in it.

Himu · « **Reply #106 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:03:04 PM »

Oh, so do I. I can get into it a lot more than say...Crackdown, which I found to be extremely boring in some spots. Fucking god awful and boring story, boring characters I have to kill that I really don't give a shit about;etc.

Assassin's Creed is the first real sand box game of this type that isn't GTA I can get into.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #107 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:03:19 PM »

ICO sucks and is ugly.

Himu · « **Reply #108 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:04:16 PM »

wrong thread!

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #109 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:06:37 PM »

Uncharted does have some damn fugly characters. Much of the visual appeal is lost because of the unattractive character designs. It reminds me of the early 3d PC games which were great technically but had some of the worst character models.

Also, TVC, does Uncharted suffer from repetitive enemy models like Stranglehold? That was one of the worst albeit funny aspects of Stranglehold's graphics.

Quote from: Professor Prole on November 18, 2007, 11:03:19 PM

ICO sucks and is ugly.

SOTC sucks even more and is just as ugly.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #110 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:08:21 PM »

UC has good enemy variety so far. Oh, and it has the goofiest-looking barrel/crate explosions EVER -- they're like tiny cartoon volcanoes. I lol'd.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #111 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:10:25 PM »

I'm not surprised at all that the barrel explosions are so goofy since that idiot Kittonwy couldn't stop talking about them.

y2kev · « **Reply #112 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:11:48 PM »

I don't agree. AC's character models are really awful. Watch Desmond's little girl toy talk and she just stares at you lifelessly.

Uncharted is going for a cartoony look. AC's visual presentation is so uneven in this regard, because Altair's model is ridiculous but even Desmond's is lacking in comparison.

Himu · « **Reply #113 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:13:25 PM »

I dunno. it's hard to compare Altair to Desmond. I mean, we're talking about 900 year time distance after all, so Desmond doesn't have a huge cloak with weapons. Plus, you hardly ever control Desmond, so it doesn't really seem like much of an issue to me at least.

y2kev · « **Reply #114 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:15:43 PM »

It just seems so uneven. But Altair is fucking badass. His animation is fucking amazing. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

Himu · « **Reply #115 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:16:45 PM »

Would you let Altair fuck you in the ass with a "hidden blade", Kev?

y2kev · « **Reply #116 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:19:22 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on November 18, 2007, 11:16:45 PM

Would you let Altair fuck you in the ass with a "hidden blade", Kev?

only if i could watch his ass fucking animation

Himu · « **Reply #117 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:20:02 PM »

Hahaha

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #118 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:38:14 PM »

no way. the doll chick that works the animus has way better proportions and modeling than elena in uc, who looks like she has a combination of spina bifida and down's. besides, she's a fuckin' bit character!

TVC15 · « **Reply #119 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:39:56 PM »

That Doll Chick is VERONICA RAPE TRAIN MARS YOU GITS!

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Author Topic: Assassin's Creed: The Definitive Evilbore Review (Read 12847 times)