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Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« on: November 16, 2007, 02:26:11 PM »
Anyone interested in Beowulf:3D IMAX?  A film nut asked me to go check it out with him for the 3d features but I don't really want to go now. 



Beowulf: Motion-capture animated adventure. Starring Anthony Hopkins, Ray Winstone and Robin Wright Penn. Directed by Robert Zemeckis. (PG-13. 120 minutes. At Bay Area theaters.)

Three-dimensional IMAX is an astonishing process that places the viewer inside the movie, and the artistic possibilities are worth a whole discussion. In "Beowulf," even the credits are exciting: The letters that form the title come flying over your shoulder and land on the screen about 5 feet in front of your nose. Call it a gimmick or call it the future of movies, but it's definitely fun and definitely worth experiencing sooner or later. For those who can't wait, this movie will do as well as the next.

As for "Beowulf" itself, it's all about the visuals, which means that as soon as the novelty of 3-D wears off, the experience has been had. That takes about 45 minutes, and what's left is a motion-capture animation featuring a lot of sixth century drunks bellowing for mead, interrupted by monster-fight interludes. It's the "Beowulf" saga once again, and the movie becomes tiresome and trivial - well done within the narrow limits of its aspiration but not worth the inflated effort.

To do "Beowulf" again, there should be some reason to do "Beowulf" at all. In 2005, for example, "Beowulf & Grendel" revisited the tale in order to present Grendel as a nice guy with his own point of view. That was a very bad reason to revisit "Beowulf," but at least it was a reason. With this film, director Robert Zemeckis doesn't seem to have a clear purpose, beyond exploring the technological possibilities of motion capture. He does that, for sure. The spooky eye movements that characterized "The Polar Express" are gone, and the movements of the animated characters look more natural than ever.

Anthony Hopkins is the aging King Hrothgar, a loud drunk who can barely stand up or keep his loincloth from falling off him. The role suits Hopkins, in the sense that it gives him a chance to show how he has perfected the art of acting through grunts - "ahh!" "eeh?" "unhh!" Yet this king has a past, and it catches up one night at the mead hall, when Grendel shows up, an emaciated, ooze-dripping giant with a regrettable overbite and sinews and organs visible from the outside.

It takes Grendel about five minutes to wipe out everybody but the principal characters, and thus it becomes certain that a hero is needed. Enter Beowulf (Ray Winstone), who arrives by sea with the intent of killing the monster. He's a big, confident, powerful man, who kills monsters mainly as a means to expand his reputation. He lives for the sake of expanding his own legend.

This is the one good idea of Neil Gaiman and Roger Avary's screenplay, the notion that the heroes are conscious of their own publicity. The notion isn't explored or expanded enough to appreciably enhance the movie, but it does provide the hint of a modern sensibility, the beginning of a reason to re-examine the tale. The best scene in the movie has Beowulf intimidating and showing off for an enemy prisoner. When he finishes, he tells a subordinate, "Give him a gold piece and send him home - he has a story to tell."

Along this same line, Grendel's mother, in this version, is not a hideous monster but a beautiful sea creature, played by Angelina Jolie. While other Beowulfs had to contend only with external evil, this movie suggests a more complicated test for the hero. He has to face something within himself, the allures of fame, sex, treasure and glory. He has to deal with the soul-threatening challenge of becoming a big shot.

But the handling of this notion is tentative and glancing, and the real experience of the movie is in watching animated characters try to kill an animated dragon. The 3-D adds something to the experience, but not enough to hold interest for the full running time. (I should say that I haven't seen the 2-D version of the film and can't imagine the appeal of that at all.) "Beowulf" is an artistically unadventurous use of adventurous technology.

Jean Renoir once said that the closer an art form gets to real life, the further it goes from artistry, and yet to see 3-D IMAX is to wonder how it might be to sit inside a live action comedy or drama. Think of your favorite movies. Would it be a good thing to be in the room with Rick and Sam in "Casablanca" or to sit at Harriet Andersson's bedside in "Cries and Whispers?" Maybe not. Maybe it would be as wrong as Renoir might have guessed. But I'd like to see an ambitious adult movie made in this way before I decided.

Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2007, 02:29:21 PM »
Some guy over on GAF didn't know that Beowulf is a book...  :lol
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2007, 02:30:16 PM »
i'm kinda hyped to see this, though some of the fx looked kinda cheap in that trailer that was released a long time ago.
anyway, robert zemeckis made cast away, and i love that movie.

i'll watch this.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2007, 02:30:27 PM »
Some guy over on GAF didn't know that Beowulf is a book...  :lol

Oh god, Dragona was in rare form that day!

And this movie looks fucking wretched in just about every conceivable way.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2007, 02:32:22 PM »
It's Rotten Tomato rating is 71 percent right now.

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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2007, 02:34:35 PM »
It's Rotten Tomato rating is 71 percent right now.

So it's as terrible as this

http://tinyurl.com/376ede
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2007, 02:39:21 PM »
so basically forrest is better than this
http://tinyurl.com/2mejjd

ouch :tvccry
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2007, 02:43:01 PM »
I don't recall ever saying Caligula was a good movie.  It's an entertaining disaster.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2007, 02:46:10 PM »
did you see mcdowell in heroes. i saw a couple of eps with him in and i kinda liked it. :-[
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2007, 02:46:57 PM »
Christopher Eccleston couldn't even keep me watching Heroes.  That's pretty terrible.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2007, 02:48:01 PM »
did you stop during s2? apparently s1 is good, but i don't know which one i watched.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2007, 02:48:59 PM »
No, I stopped an episode or two after Company Man in S1.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2007, 02:59:19 PM »
the man brought us the modern day classic forrest gump, the epic cast away, and the new holiday standard polar express

i will see this movie on DVD tho. don't have money to waste right now
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2007, 03:52:44 PM »
I liked Roger Rabbit.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2007, 04:32:53 PM »
"I. AM. BEOWULF!" is very much like "THIS. IS. SPARTA!"

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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2007, 04:39:15 PM »
"I. AM. BEOWULF!" is very much like "THIS. IS. SPARTA!"
eh, the movie was written and voice work was done like over a year ago.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2007, 05:24:04 PM »
Ok, but still.

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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2007, 05:26:59 PM »
main characters have a weird habit in action movies to do that PERIOD. AFTER. EVERY. WORD. TO. SHOW. I. AM. ANGRY. thing. It is waaaay over-used and cheesey now.
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2007, 05:41:05 PM »
Some guy over on GAF didn't know that Beowulf is a book...  :lol
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2007, 05:44:53 PM »
Some guy over on GAF didn't know that Beowulf is a book...  :lol

Was it Manabyte?
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2007, 05:52:34 PM »
the man brought us the modern day classic forrest gump, the epic cast away, and the new holiday standard polar express

i will see this movie on DVD tho. don't have money to waste right now

uhhh, wtf?  BACK TO THE FUCKIN' FUTURE was this guy. BtFF!!! ===D~~~~

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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2007, 07:06:03 PM »
I don´t understand why Dragona hates Tolkien.  People noticed Beowulf only because Tolkien started talking about it.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2007, 07:08:09 PM »
The AV Club also ripped this turd a new one.

And Beowulf has been a fairly popular critical work since the late Renaissance, although I don't think a complete copy was widely available until the 18thish century. 

Tolkien is an important figure in the field of Beowulf scholarship, but not because he "started talking about it."  He published what I guess was a fairly important critical work about Beowulf, a few years before he made himself a god to fantasy nerds.  It's not like he was Kurt Cobain name-dropping The Boredoms or something in a post-fame interview.
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2007, 07:11:59 PM »
i'm reading that and i just found out that roger avery co-wrote it. lawl.

anyway, the cg layer over the faces makes it so uncanny valley-like, it's ridiculously bad. they need to fix this tech.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2007, 07:41:33 PM »
I did a double-take when I read Ebert's review. (***)

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In the name of the mighty Odin, what this movie needs is an audience that knows how to laugh. Laugh, I tell you, laugh! Has the spirit of irony been lost in the land? By all the gods, if it were not for this blasted infirmity that the Fates have dealt me, you would have heard from me such thunderous roars as to shake the very Navy Pier itself down to its pillars in the clay.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071115/REVIEWS/71115004/-1/REVIEWS01
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2007, 07:50:35 PM »
I did a double-take when I read Ebert's review. (***)

why? it's getting good reviews. It's generally well received amongst the critics as far as I can tell.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2007, 08:12:19 PM »
why?

The length. I couldn't tell if my browser had cut it off or not, so I mashed F5 a few times, and tried it in Safari.
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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2007, 08:14:50 PM »
I did a double-take when I read Ebert's review. (***)

why? it's getting good reviews. It's generally well received amongst the critics as far as I can tell.

A 73 at Rotten Tomatoes basically says to me "see this only if you are interested in the director's work or have a hard on for one of the performers." 

And this score is only going to go down, too.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2007, 08:16:26 PM »
why?

The length. I couldn't tell if my browser had cut it off or not, so I mashed F5 a few times, and tried it in Safari.


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Beowulf

BY ROGER EBERT / November 15, 2007


In the name of the mighty Odin, what this movie needs is an audience that knows how to laugh. Laugh, I tell you, laugh! Has the spirit of irony been lost in the land? By all the gods, if it were not for this blasted infirmity that the Fates have dealt me, you would have heard from me such thunderous roars as to shake the very Navy Pier itself down to its pillars in the clay.

that's really are there is. :lol

edit: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/REVIEWS/71115001
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2007, 10:58:51 PM »
why?

The length. I couldn't tell if my browser had cut it off or not, so I mashed F5 a few times, and tried it in Safari.


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Beowulf

BY ROGER EBERT / November 15, 2007


In the name of the mighty Odin, what this movie needs is an audience that knows how to laugh. Laugh, I tell you, laugh! Has the spirit of irony been lost in the land? By all the gods, if it were not for this blasted infirmity that the Fates have dealt me, you would have heard from me such thunderous roars as to shake the very Navy Pier itself down to its pillars in the clay.

that's really are there is. :lol

edit: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/REVIEWS/71115001

uh not for me. I see a full review.

In the name of the mighty Odin, what this movie needs is an audience that knows how to laugh. Laugh, I tell you, laugh! Has the spirit of irony been lost in the land? By all the gods, if it were not for this blasted infirmity that the Fates have dealt me, you would have heard from me such thunderous roars as to shake the very Navy Pier itself down to its pillars in the clay.

To be sure, when I saw "Beowulf" in 3-D at the giant-screen IMAX theater, there were eruptions of snickers here and there, but for the most part, the audience sat and watched the movie, not cheering, booing, hooting, recoiling, erupting or doing anything else unmannerly. You expect complete silence and rapt attention when a nude Angelina Jolie emerges from the waters of an underground lagoon. But am I the only one who suspects that the intention of director Robert Zemeckis and writers Neil Gaiman and Roger Avary was satirical?

Truth in criticism: I am not sure Angelina Jolie was nude. Oh, her character was nude, all right, except for the shimmering gold plating that obscured certain crucial areas, but was she Angelina Jolie? Zemeckis, who directed the wonderful "Polar Express," has employed a much more realistic version of the same animation technology in "Beowulf." We are not looking at flesh-and-blood actors but special effects that look uncannily convincing, even though I am reasonably certain that Angelina Jolie does not have spike-heeled feet. That's right: feet, not shoes.


More of Angelina Jolie -- or a reasonable facsimile thereof -- in "Beowulf."

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The movie uses the English epic poem, circa 700 A.D., as its starting point, and resembles the original in that it uses a lot of the same names. It takes us to the Danish kingdom of King Hrothgar (Anthony Hopkins), where the king and his court have gathered to inaugurate a new mead hall, built for the purpose of drinking gallons of mead. The old hall was destroyed by the monster Grendel, whose wretched life consists of being the ugliest creature on earth, and destroying mead halls.

To this court comes the heroic Geatsman named Beowulf (Ray Winstone), who in the manner of a Gilbert & Sullivan hero is forever making boasts about himself. He is the very model of a medieval monster slaughterer. (A Geatsman comes from an area of today's Sweden named Gotaland, which translates, Wikipedia helpfully explains, as "land of the Geats.") When the king offers his comely queen Wealthow (Robin Wright Penn) as a prize if Beowulf slays Grendel, the hero immediately strips naked, because if Grendel wears no clothes, then he won't, either. This leads to a great deal of well-timed Austinpowerism, which translates (Wikipedia does not explain) as "putting things in the foreground to keep us from seeing the family jewels." Grendel arrives on schedule to tear down the mead hall, and there is a mighty battle which is rendered in gory and gruesome detail, right down to cleaved skulls and severed limbs.


Some form of Ray Winstone as Beowulf in "Beowulf."

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Now when I say, for example, that Sir Anthony plays Hrothgar, or John Malkovich plays Beowulf's rival Unferth, you are to understand that they supply voices and the physical performances for animated characters who look more or less like they do. (Crispin Glover, however, does not look a thing like Grendel, and if you are familiar with the great British character actor Ray Winstone you will suspect he doesn't have six-pack abs.) Variety reports that Paramount has entered "Beowulf" in the Academy's best animated film category, which means nothing is really there, realistic as it may occasionally appear. I saw the movie in IMAX 3-D, as I said, and like all 3-D movies it spends a lot of time throwing things at the audience: Spears, blood, arms, legs, bodies, tables, heads, mead, and so forth. The movie is also showing in non-IMAX 3-D, and in the usual 2-D. Not bad for a one-dimensional story.

But I'm not complaining. I'm serious when I say the movie is funny. Some of the dialog sounds like Monty Python. No, most of the dialog does. "I didn't hear him coming," a wench tells a warrior. "You'll hear me," he promises. Grendel is ugly beyond all meaning. His battles are violent beyond all possibility. His mother (Jolie) is like a beauty queen in centerfold heaven. Her own final confrontation with Beowulf beggars description. To say the movie is over the top assumes you can see the top from here.

Now about the PG-13 rating. How can a movie be rated PG-13 when it has female nudity? I'll tell you how. Because Angelina Jolie (ital) is not really there. (unital) And because there are no four-letter words. Even Jolie has said she's surprised by the rating; the British gave it a 12A certificate, which means you can be a year younger and see it over there. But no, Jolie won't be taking her children, she told the BBC: "It's remarkable it has the rating it has. It's quite an extraordinary film, and some of it shocked me."

Here's the exact wording from the MPAA's Code people: "Classified PG-13 (for intense sequences of violence including disturbing images, some sexual material and nudity)." How does that compare with a PG rating? Here's the MPAA's wording on "Bee Movie": "Classified PG (for mild suggestive humor and a brief depiction of smoking)." I have news for them. If I were 13, Angelina Jolie would be plenty nude enough for me in this movie, animated or not. If I were 12 and British, who knows?
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2007, 12:03:10 AM »
73 isn't bad on RT. I don't care what critics say.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2007, 01:48:06 AM »
The movie is shit.

Why in the blue fuck did they dick around with the Beowulf story so much? I had more fun watching the back of my eyelids than I did with the horseshit on the screen.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2007, 03:11:31 AM »
Rottentomatoes's numbers give you a general view of how well a movie was received but it really shouldn't be used in the same manner as something like Gamerankings.  Unlike Gamerankings, the RT score is just the % of good reviews and not the average of review scores.  For example, an ambitious film which gets 80% great scores and 20% bad scores is much more likely to win some awards than a safe film that gets pretty good reviews from 90% of critics. 

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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2007, 04:01:38 AM »
Metacritic is like Gamerankings for movies. It's a much better judge.
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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2007, 04:33:32 AM »
Metacritic is like Gamerankings for movies. It's a much better judge.

I disagree.  Metacritic assigns numerical review scores to reviews that don't use a grading scale.  Rottentomatoes does no such thing, instead deeming a review as either fresh or rotten.  Thus, Rottentomatoes is more accurate.  Metacritic basically pulls numbers out of their ass.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2007, 04:42:21 AM »
Metacritic is like Gamerankings for movies. It's a much better judge.

I disagree.  Metacritic assigns numerical review scores to reviews that don't use a grading scale.  Rottentomatoes does no such thing, instead deeming a review as either fresh or rotten.  Thus, Rottentomatoes is more accurate.  Metacritic basically pulls numbers out of their ass.

Great point. But still, RT inflates numbers by labeling average to sup par ratings as "fresh". It's a very black and white meter.

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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2007, 05:12:10 AM »
Metacritic is like Gamerankings for movies. It's a much better judge.

I disagree.  Metacritic assigns numerical review scores to reviews that don't use a grading scale.  Rottentomatoes does no such thing, instead deeming a review as either fresh or rotten.  Thus, Rottentomatoes is more accurate.  Metacritic basically pulls numbers out of their ass.

Great point. But still, RT inflates numbers by labeling average to sup par ratings as "fresh". It's a very black and white meter.

But when you are trying to take a piece of ungraded/unrated criticism, painting it in black and white is the only way to come up with any sort of agreeable scale.  I mean, neither RT nor Metacritic are great.  Art criticism can't really be metered down to such simple scales.  But RT is significantly less bad than Metacritic.

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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2007, 05:23:19 AM »
I wasn't aware that Metacritic assigned numerical scores to reviews without a grading scale.  :-X
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2007, 09:05:58 AM »
The movie is shit.

Why in the blue fuck did they dick around with the Beowulf story so much? I had more fun watching the back of my eyelids than I did with the horseshit on the screen.
The original book would not work very well as a movie. It has 0 character development and has a dragon story tacked on with no connection at all. Neil Gaiman had to make changes in the script for it to work as a movie.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2007, 01:58:25 PM »
The movie is shit.

Why in the blue fuck did they dick around with the Beowulf story so much? I had more fun watching the back of my eyelids than I did with the horseshit on the screen.
The original book would not work very well as a movie. It has 0 character development and has a dragon story tacked on with no connection at all. Neil Gaiman had to make changes in the script for it to work as a movie.

Gaiman made all the wrong fucking changes. And I don't know what you're on about, because Beowulf is a great story.
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« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2007, 02:31:03 PM »
Gay Boy likes Marie Antoinette and A Knight's Tale.  A great story doesn't seem to matter to him :'(

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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2007, 02:38:56 PM »
The movie is shit.

Why in the blue fuck did they dick around with the Beowulf story so much? I had more fun watching the back of my eyelids than I did with the horseshit on the screen.
The original book would not work very well as a movie. It has 0 character development and has a dragon story tacked on with no connection at all. Neil Gaiman had to make changes in the script for it to work as a movie.

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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2007, 03:55:42 PM »
The movie is shit.

Why in the blue fuck did they dick around with the Beowulf story so much? I had more fun watching the back of my eyelids than I did with the horseshit on the screen.
The original book would not work very well as a movie. It has 0 character development and has a dragon story tacked on with no connection at all. Neil Gaiman had to make changes in the script for it to work as a movie.

For the most part, a straight adaptation would work fine.  It's three acts, and while it might not meet your "lofty" standards, there is character development, considering its age.
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Re: Lukewarm review of Beowulf:3D
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2007, 02:26:16 PM »
why?

The length. I couldn't tell if my browser had cut it off or not, so I mashed F5 a few times, and tried it in Safari.


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Beowulf

BY ROGER EBERT / November 15, 2007


In the name of the mighty Odin, what this movie needs is an audience that knows how to laugh. Laugh, I tell you, laugh! Has the spirit of irony been lost in the land? By all the gods, if it were not for this blasted infirmity that the Fates have dealt me, you would have heard from me such thunderous roars as to shake the very Navy Pier itself down to its pillars in the clay.

that's really are there is. :lol

edit: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/REVIEWS/71115001

uh not for me. I see a full review.

that's kinda why i edited
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