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Sean Taylor, age 24, passed away from gunshot wound
« on: November 26, 2007, 02:53:57 PM »
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« Last Edit: November 27, 2007, 01:32:03 PM by Willco »
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2007, 02:57:16 PM »
The Skin at level with the Eagles. Thats some rough shit mang
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2007, 03:07:34 PM »
I'm having a difficult time holding back the hoo haw at all the people who actually care about the footsball.  Sad faces all around just waiting to be cracked!  It's so tough.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2007, 03:18:25 PM »
I'm not talking about the woeful performance of our hometown NFL franchise, the Washington Redskins (which did put my Sunday in a funk by falling to an awful 5-6 record), but rather the tragedy that struck Sean Taylor.

Taylor is like, one of the very few homegrown talents we have left.  He talks (flirts, really) with female reporters only.  He spits in people's faces.  He is surly and disconnected with local color commentators.  He is probably the embodiment of the D.C. metropolitan area spirit.

And now his life hangs by a thread.  I hope he makes it.  I guess his playing days are over, though.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2007, 03:20:28 PM »
Oh shit, yeah I heard about this just now. That fucken suck
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2007, 03:20:57 PM »
I guess if it's any conciliation, if Sean Taylor pulls through, he can start some kind of support group with Andray Blatche for D.C. area sports stars who were critically shot and managed to resume their respective careers.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2007, 03:21:43 PM »
Just checked ESPN  :(

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2007, 03:27:59 PM »
I hope Sean Taylor spits in the face of the afterlife and comes back stronger than ever.  No mortal athlete would want to deal with Sean Taylor, who flirted with death and lived to the tale.  He would be like the grim reaper (isn't that one of his nicknames anyway?).
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2007, 03:29:05 PM »
Heh, watch him come back from "the beyond" with athletic superpowers. Trained by Jesus himself! Oh lawd!
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2007, 03:30:51 PM »
I can only hope.

Also, call this an eerie coincidence, but fellow safety (and first round draft pick) LaRon Landry, was shot in the groin as well earlier this year... albeit it with a paint ball gun.  Still, Redskins safeties should probably watch their groins around firearms of all kinds.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2007, 03:31:53 PM »
He must have lost a lot of blood if the ESPN article is accurate about the femoral artery being severed. As an athlete he can afford to lose blood and get shot in the groin - some lead in the spine would have been more serious. If he survives the blood loss I'd imagine he'd be able to play again eventually. He's got youth in his advantage 
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2007, 03:53:00 PM »
Awww, now I feel like a real dick.
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2007, 03:55:42 PM »
He apparently came out of surgery and will live.  His quality of life, possible brain damage and the like is all up in the air for now.  I hope he has a speedy recovery and that he can play football again.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2007, 04:18:36 PM »
Looks like he's going to make it, and hopefully he makes a full recovery.  He could join Andray Blatche's rap group with Oleksiy Pecherov.

I bet that in the coming weeks, some yahoos try to put the blame on Taylor, even though this sounds like straight-up home invasion.

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2007, 04:38:13 PM »
Too late. I'm not sure why Wilbon has beef with Taylor, maybe it's due to the media blackout that Taylor imposes (how dare he insult the Michael Wilbon!), but he already had the attitude of "Not surprised, he's a violent black man!" in today's Chat House.
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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2007, 04:47:43 PM »
This just adds fuel to the fire and credibility to earlier rumors that Taylor's property was repeatedly broken into prior to this incident:

Quote from: Redskins Insider, WaPost
Richard Sharpstein, who has represented Sean Taylor in legal matters in the past and is a friend of the family, said moments ago that the player's life is hanging in the balance in the hospital. Sharpstein, speaking from the hospital, said Taylor is "nonresponsive and unconscious" and the doctors are "worried about a possible brain injury or death."

Sharpstein, who has been with Taylor's family at the hospital much of the day, said that there are major worries that Taylor may have lost oxygen to the brain, and that no other procedures are planned for right now. "They're waiting to see if he comes to," Sharpstein said. He was shot in the groin/thigh area near the femoral artery and lost copious amounts of blood. The intruders then retreated and Sean was airlifted to the trauma center and endured several hours of surgery, Sharpstein said.

Taylor is in intensive care, Sharpstein said, and his girlfriend and child were not injured in the attack. Sharpstein said Taylor was sleeping when he heard a noise in the living room. The intruder or intruders were at his bedroom and Taylor reached for a machete or other form of knife he keeps nearby in case of emergency, and two shots were fired, with one striking his leg.

"Right now he's clinging to life and we're all praying he makes it," Sharpstein said.

Sharpstein said there have been numerous break ins, or break in attempts, on Taylor's house in recent weeks.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2007, 04:56:22 PM »
Wilbon?  Jeez.  Looks like he's doing his "Cranky old black man at a barbershop chastising the kids with their rap music and their weed" routine.  I remember other journos taking the same attitude towards Blatche's shooting.

I suppose there's some chance that these were guys that Taylor was involved with somehow, but my first impression is that he's guilty of having nice things that people would want to steal.

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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2007, 05:04:36 PM »
Even if he was targeted (and there is a good chance he may have), by all accounts, he had undergone a massive reformation in his personal life the last 18 months or so.  This does reek of Wilbon being a cranky, old black man.  I hope he's a bit more sympathetic by the time PTi broadcasts, because he seems kind of like an asshole right now.

Jason La Canfora made one of the better comments in regards to this attack possibly being targeted.  He wrote that even though Taylor has disconnected himself from associates that didn't have his best interests at heart and moved to a much nicer area, that doesn't mean that folks that know him from his roots don't have his new address.

I know Dan Snyder, Vinny Cerrato, Clinton Portis and Bubba Tyer have probably landed in South Florida by now via Redskins One.  Hopefully, us fans will have a clearer, objective assessment of the attack and Taylor's condition by the end of the day courtesy of Snyder & Co.
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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2007, 08:09:16 AM »
Wow, I just heard he passed away this morning. Such a sensless killing, you would think when you've got all this money and fame you could break away from that shit that you may have lived in in your past. I guess not. Rest in peace Sean Taylor
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2007, 08:50:53 AM »
jesus christ
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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2007, 01:09:39 PM »
I just head he past away when I woke up.  That really sucks for everyone involved.  Just a year older than me - fucking scary.
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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2007, 01:43:01 PM »
RIP

Horrible way to go
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2007, 02:07:51 PM »
I'm going to cut and paste what I said elsewhere with some extra commentary...

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I just came to say that I'll miss Sean Taylor - I'm from the area and he was one of the few talents we ever drafted and groomed. Taylor was always fun to watch. He made coming to FedEx Field during meaningless games fun. And although he was a troublemaker early on, I guess it's important to note that when he first put on his Redskins jersey, he was the same age as I when I was doing equally dumb shit during college.

Sean Taylor made Sunday games better just by his presence, even the ones that went bad. Who remembers the Pro Bowl last year when he leveled the punter? That was the kind of guy Sean was - no holds barred. And for a guy who was coming into his prime, tying the NFC lead in interceptions despite missing two games, it's a tragic loss for everybody.

Sean was always kind to fans, supportive of the team and gave it his all. And the guy was just one-year-older than me... with a daughter to boot.

I know some folks won't get it because sports are for closet homosexuals and the like, but if you live and grew up in the D.C. area, there is no greater thing than the Washington Redskins.  Everything in that area stops for the Redskins.  There is nothing bigger than opening day, whether it'd be at RFK or FedEx Field, not even the Presidential inauguration.  Going and watching Redskins games was one of the few things my family could actually enjoy, no matter how fractured it got.  And that's what the Redskins are - family.  I've been to a lot of stadiums in a lot of cities, and I can say that no matter how dysfunctional they are, there is a sense of community with Redskins fans that's unrivaled in sports, save for maybe soccer hooligans. 

Sure, other teams have hardcore fan bases; Green Bay fans borderline on a cult.  The Raiders fan base has nothing else to look forward to in that desolate, violent area, so they gravitate to the only fun distraction left in that crappy burg.  The Eagles have one of the few fan bases that fight amongst each other.

The Redskins, though, are apart of our cultural identity as an area, but they don't define us.  That's what separates the area from other equally, if not more so, emotionally charged fan bases.  We bleed burgundy and gold, not because we have to or because we're closet homosexuals or there's nothing else to look forward to inside the Beltway, but because there's a warm sense of community amongst fans.  Even during the Frerotte era or the Jeff George era or the Coach 'Em Up era.

So losing one of the youngest, most dynamic and fun players in that family really is a hard blow for folks back home and the team itself.  Taylor was fun to watch.  He brought a sense of urgency and toughness that the Redskins sorely lacked.  His presence will be missed.  I won't lament over the tragedy of trying to replace what maybe an irreplaceable position player.  It's hard to fathom how someone one-year-older than yourself, a person you watched during college and then play for your hometown team, can be struck down like this.  It is a shock. I won't say that this a personal loss.  But it's some kind of loss.
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Re: Sean Taylor, age 24, passed away from gunshot wound
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2007, 02:22:57 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2007, 02:24:25 PM »
RoboJ wtf?

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« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2007, 02:27:27 PM »
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Yeah, yeah, I know - I suck cock and eat cock and do cock up my butt.
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2007, 02:34:43 PM »
oh my!

(actually, the "..." was an edit -- i had typed "lol sportsfags" but then i read your post and reconsidered. i am seasonally good-natured like that!)
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2007, 02:40:01 PM »
RoboJ wtf?

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Yeah, :sadface.  I didn't know this thread was about Sean Taylor initially, so my earlier comment seems distinguished mentally-challenged now.
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2007, 03:31:39 PM »
Nice post Willco. How is this being handled on sports radio/newspapers there?
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2007, 04:52:50 PM »
RIP, Sean :'(

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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2007, 05:56:35 PM »
Shit, he was a year younger than me.

I'm not feeling the same emotional reaction that a bunch of other fans are, since I mostly know him as #21 in pads.  I honestly wouldn't have recognized his face or voice (by contrast, I'd be irrationally weepy if any of the Wizards, or Michael Cera, got killed).  But it still sucks, and Willco's right about how important the Redskins are to DC and the suburbs.

Washington's a city that gets knocked for being mostly full of transients, and there's some truth to it.  It's why the baseball team left twice, and the basketball team never really caught on.  All the local celebrities are politicians who got elected hundreds or thousands of miles away.

The Redskins are one of the few things that define this area as an actual community, rather than a staging ground for politics.  Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything else that fits that definition and crosses class lines the same way.  Everything else is like go-go music, which defines a local subculture.

I'm not surprised at all over the local mourning for a very skilled young player who, in people's minds, really "was a Redskin" rather than "was a guy the Redskins signed".

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« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2007, 01:52:22 AM »
So sad. :(
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« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2007, 01:57:04 AM »
What sucks is since he was on probation he couldnt own a gun to defend himself, hence the machette. He was just protecting his family, sux.
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« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2007, 02:15:33 AM »
Do we know anything about the shooter? I haven't really been following.
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« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2007, 02:37:14 AM »
No leads.  His father is a police chief in South Florida, so I'm sure they actually be vigilant.
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« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2007, 02:43:13 AM »
Sounds like a hit to me; lots of the details seem to suggest this wasn't some simple robbery, such as the previous burglary that occurred. Then there's the whole cutting the phone lines and not taking any money detail...

This could get rather ugly once details emerge
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« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2007, 02:47:52 AM »
I doubt it.  The likelihood is that it was a reprisal for the ATV incident or another dumb mistake from his Miami or rookie days that finally caught up with him.  From all indications, since his daughter was born, he's been a model citizen and tried hard to reform his life.  Maybe it was too late.  I doubt it'll tarnish his image, but it might send off a warning to young, black athletes that even if you turn your life around, the mistakes you make in the past could come back to haunt you.
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« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2007, 03:03:24 AM »
I doubt it.  The likelihood is that it was a reprisal for the ATV incident or another dumb mistake from his Miami or rookie days that finally caught up with him.  From all indications, since his daughter was born, he's been a model citizen and tried hard to reform his life.  Maybe it was too late.  I doubt it'll tarnish his image, but it might send off a warning to young, black athletes that even if you turn your life around, the mistakes you make in the past could come back to haunt you.

Sucks if that's what happened. :(

What happened with the ATV?

I hope it wasn't a hit.
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« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2007, 03:31:48 AM »
In June 2005, Sean Taylor started an altercation and brandished a firearm at persons he claimed stole two ATVs that belonged to him in Miami.  He left the scene, but came back later and physically assaulted one of the suspects.  It was a rather big deal because as it was a felony, there was some real serious jail time attached to the charges.  He negotiated a plea bargain and did his community service, along with donating money to Florida scholarship programs.

This along with a DUI arrest, several altercations with NFL players (he spit in at least two player's faces) and wild personal life in Miami gave Taylor a rather negative image.

Somewhere between the birth of his daughter and now, he tried to turn it all around.  For his daughter, it seems.  He really matured, on and off the field.  He was undisciplined on the field; his hits were brutal and the stuff ESPN highlight reels were made of, but he'd also cost the team a score or two by blowing assignments in chase of a highlight hit.  He dedicated himself to the defensive system and really matured - he got his first Pro Bowl selection last year.  And despite the fact that he already missed two games due to injury, the reason he was in Miami in the first place, he leads the NFC in interceptions.

He also moved his family to a nicer neighborhood, cut off contact with associates from his wild days, primed himself to marry his long-time girlfriend it appears and became an all-around model family man.

Maybe too late, it seems.
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