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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #660 on: January 03, 2008, 11:21:41 PM »
Superior mutants only, sir.
Can you leave some women folk? I mean--I'll take the mutants too.

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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #661 on: January 03, 2008, 11:23:09 PM »
Edwards quest for VP continues
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #662 on: January 03, 2008, 11:24:12 PM »
Obama-Edwards would be tight.  Even your stupid homeschooled ass would vote for that, Pee Dee.

And Malek, OF COURSE I'm going to leave women alive.  We're just going to bio-engineer them to be born without vocal cords.
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« Reply #663 on: January 03, 2008, 11:27:24 PM »
We're just going to bio-engineer them to be borne without vocal cords.
I dare them to say 'no'!

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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #664 on: January 03, 2008, 11:29:04 PM »
Obama-Edwards would be tight.  Even your stupid homeschooled ass would vote for that, Pee Dee.

And Malek, OF COURSE I'm going to leave women alive.  We're just going to bio-engineer them to be borne without vocal cords.

Obama Biden FTW

But I wonder if Edwards would agree to drop out the race if Obama promised the VP position
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #665 on: January 03, 2008, 11:47:47 PM »
Say what you will about Huck, but he knows how to give a damn good speech
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« Reply #666 on: January 03, 2008, 11:50:25 PM »
Say what you will about Huck, but he knows how to give a damn good speech
You were blinded by a huckster. Or by Chuck Norris' teeth.

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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #667 on: January 03, 2008, 11:51:32 PM »
Matthews: "[the speech] was very Jimmy Stewart"

Interesting comparison
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #668 on: January 03, 2008, 11:53:05 PM »
what the fuck I thought the media had a liberal bias. Everyone is talking huckabee not obama
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« Reply #669 on: January 03, 2008, 11:56:39 PM »
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« Reply #670 on: January 04, 2008, 12:05:42 AM »
what the fuck I thought the media had a liberal bias. Everyone is talking huckabee not obama

msnbc is falling over themselves over obama (and rightly so)

and lolololol@mccain failing to beat Granpa Fred.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #672 on: January 04, 2008, 12:39:49 AM »
FoC used to be in this thread 24/7. He has run away.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #673 on: January 04, 2008, 12:46:13 AM »
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #674 on: January 04, 2008, 12:50:44 AM »
how did the second tier candidates swing where you went? Did their prescient captains where you were tell them to go to Obama?
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« Reply #675 on: January 04, 2008, 12:52:34 AM »
Maybe FoC went down with the blimp.

After thinking about the reactions and speeches some more, I think it's clear Edwards is done. Hillary will have to find some way to bust through the media narrative-and very fast-to win NH or she's done too.

I'd feel bad for NH republicans if it was possible for me to feel empathy for that lot. What a shitty choice of candidates to choose from-southern yokel fundie nut, damaged mormon PLZ ELECT ME PLZ goods, the near-comatose Grampa Fred, the ex-maverick who couldn't even beat out Grampa Fred in Iowa, and militita-tested, stormfront.com-approved crazy man.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #676 on: January 04, 2008, 12:53:58 AM »

I'd feel bad for NH republicans if it was possible for me to feel empathy for that lot. W



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« Reply #677 on: January 04, 2008, 12:55:31 AM »

I'd feel bad for NH republicans if it was possible for me to feel empathy for that lot. W


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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #678 on: January 04, 2008, 12:59:58 AM »

Bloomberg wont run if Obama sweeps this nomination, not a chance.

Hillary and Huckabee would be a green light, though.


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« Reply #679 on: January 04, 2008, 01:02:25 AM »

Bloomberg wont run if Obama sweeps this nomination, not a chance.

Hillary and Huckabee would be a green light, though.


Yes but this tonight put a damper on the Hillary campaign. We'll see tuesday.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #680 on: January 04, 2008, 01:06:19 AM »
I might be willing to vote for Obama.  It would be cool to have a gay president.  I can see a Donna Summers national anthem remix.  Ethel Merman as first lady.  All good things.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #681 on: January 04, 2008, 01:12:26 AM »
Oh say can you see
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What so proudly we hailed
In heaven
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #682 on: January 04, 2008, 01:15:15 AM »
jeezus shit, Obama won in a state with 4% black people?  amazing.  sad that I'll have to use bbc for not-totally-shit election coverage though.  US stations are barely a notch above internet fanboys.

when are the next few primaries?  I can see obama getting a lot of momentum due to this being the farthest (?) a black person got to being president (I don't meam that as an insult to him).  especially since democrats know how dedicated evangelicals are to voting.

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« Reply #683 on: January 04, 2008, 01:18:51 AM »
jeezus shit, Obama won in a state with 4% black people?  amazing.  sad that I'll have to use bbc for not-totally-shit election coverage though.  US stations are barely a notch above internet fanboys.

when are the next few primaries?  I can see obama getting a lot of momentum due to this being the farthest (?) a black person got to being president (I don't meam that as an insult to him).  especially since democrats know how dedicated evangelicals are to voting.

next one is tuesday in NH. Hillary has about a 10-18% lead there right now.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #684 on: January 04, 2008, 01:30:42 AM »
from 4chan:

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- 10% market share? check.
- people grossly overpaid for it? check.
- hyped up third-party support that never materialized? check.

IT'S OFFICIAL:

RON PAUL IS THE MAC OF POLITICS
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« Reply #686 on: January 04, 2008, 01:53:29 AM »
I picked up an Obama '08 yard sign and window sticker today. I have a feeling that a rabid Ron Paul supporter will steal/torch my yard sign, so that's why I got the window sticker.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #687 on: January 04, 2008, 01:55:05 AM »
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #688 on: January 04, 2008, 01:59:17 AM »
COUNTIN GOLD IN THE, HOT SUN
RON FOUGHT THE ZOD AND THE ZOD WON
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« Reply #689 on: January 04, 2008, 02:15:02 AM »
Flame left us baby and it feels so bad
Guess Paul's race is run
That crazy racist Texan poster's feelin' sad
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« Reply #690 on: January 04, 2008, 02:18:49 AM »
So did you elect your king yet America?

I'm not legally allowed to run until 2012, so the country shall have to wait until my divine providence leads them from the modern dark ages.

I suppose a tyrant can be king too.

I am a BENEVOLENT tyrant, however.  In fact, I could possibly see my way to appointing a certain antisocial, nyquil swilling Canuck to my new Minister of Law post... after all, he would be easy to control what with the nyquil addiction...

Minister of Law? So I will be the one setting up the camps?
I'm off nyquil and back to booze. Cheap vodka and I'm yours.

Da, komrad.  The camps will be essential to rid the country of undesirables- the homeschooled, Libertopians, the overtly religious, people that watch reality television... many will be called and chosen for the ultimate sacrifice.  The vodka will get you through it, sir.

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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #691 on: January 04, 2008, 02:36:08 AM »
The south will vote HUCK and the north will vote OBAMA, NORTH VS SOUTH THE REVENGE
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #692 on: January 04, 2008, 03:14:21 AM »
It's not over yet good doctor. Hillary could still win NH
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #693 on: January 04, 2008, 03:17:14 AM »
While I dont want hillary to get the nomination, Iowa was far more important for Obama than it was for her.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #694 on: January 04, 2008, 03:26:30 AM »
Ya. Her coming in a disappointing third should be the big story tomorrow, and you can expect the media to really start kissing up to Obama. I can't wait for some stories to emerge about how things looked/sounded in her war room as the poor results slowly came in
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #695 on: January 04, 2008, 03:32:36 AM »

 :lol
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« Reply #696 on: January 04, 2008, 03:38:38 AM »
It's like she's thinking "OH WELL!"
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #697 on: January 04, 2008, 04:16:17 AM »
This was written this morning, before the voting lolz
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DES MOINES, Iowa — Are there really three tickets out of Iowa?

Will the media really have the time, space or inclination to pay attention to anyone who doesn’t win or come in second here Thursday night?

Candidates like to talk about how winning “gold, silver or bronze” or “first class, business or coach” is enough. But in Iowa, a third-place finish has almost always been a one-way ticket to Palookaville.

You can hate the idea of one small state being able to dash presidential dreams, but that is usually the case here. (In 1988 there was an exception: Both Democrat Mike Dukakis and Republican George H.W. Bush came in third in Iowa but went on to win their party’s nomination.)

Even second place sometimes is not good enough in Iowa. Ask John Edwards. He came in second here in 2004 and expected that “bounce” to help him win in New Hampshire. But it didn’t.

Why? The media had a better story. They had Howard Dean’s scream.

As Edwards’ then-campaign manager Nick Baldick put it: “Instead of headlines that said, ‘Kerry Wins, Edwards a Surprising Second’ it was all about [John] Kerry winning and the Dean speech. We were the seventh paragraph. That did not give us a New Hampshire bounce.”


And Edwards might face the same problem this time. If he comes in second and Barack Obama comes in first, the headline could be: “Obama Wins, Hillary Third.”

Top-tier candidates probably will not drop out if they don’t do well in Iowa. The New Hampshire primary is just five days later, and most of the money for that is already spent. Also there are back-to-back Republican and Democratic debates on Saturday night, which provides free TV time.

But certain candidates might find themselves otherwise starved for oxygen in New Hampshire. Media resources are being stretched thin right now and many news outlets are looking forward to a smaller field to cover.

The trick for candidates is to exceed media expectations. If you can do better than expected, you might be able to earn a continuing look — even if it is just a glance — from the press.

Each party has a different set of expectations this time.

Republican John McCain has been trying to thread the needle in Iowa, spending enough time to snatch third place without spending enough time to make it look as if he were really trying to win.

And McCain actually could convert a bronze in Iowa into gold in New Hampshire.


Greg Mueller, who has worked in a number of Republican presidential campaigns, but is unaligned now, says there are others who may beat expectations.

“If Fred Thompson comes in third in Iowa, he gets a ticket to New Hampshire,” Mueller said. “And Ron Paul, with that energy and passion, is a wild card.”

On the Democratic side, the field may be cut down immediately.

“There aren’t three tickets out of Iowa for Democrats,” said Mark Mellman, a Democratic pollster and strategist who worked for Kerry in 2004 and is unaligned now. “If Hillary Clinton wins, I think the race is over.”

But what if she doesn’t win?

“If Barack Obama wins and Hillary Clinton is second or third, she could still win the nomination, but it would be a tough fight for her,” he said. “And Edwards has to win Iowa. If he comes in third in Iowa — or even second — he is dead.”


Former Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman, who isn’t backing any candidate, put it this way: “What is unique about this cycle is that each candidate has a different strategy to obtain the nomination. But exceeding media expectations is part of every strategy."
http://www.politico.com/rogersimon/

Pretty spot on. The media attention is going to be key given the small amount of time left until the NH primary. Obama is going to get much of that attention, and you can expect a lot of stories straight out of his autobiography to be all over the news, plus more coverage of his policies. The second (or first?) story is going to be what happened to Hillary. For months she was the undisputed front runner, an aura of inevitability over her head. Now all that is gone; and if she attacks Obama, or better yet if Bill attacks Obama, I'd expect the media to rush to his aid with "as Hillary Clinton's campaign begins to unravel..." story headings.

So where does Edwards fit in? His supporters seem far more inclined to be in Obama's camp than Hillary's, and I could see him losing many points to Obama in NH. Most likely he's going to come in third there, giving the media the green light to frame the rest of the primary season as a two person race.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #698 on: January 04, 2008, 04:18:33 AM »
NOOOO JOHN EDWARDS :(

He is the best candidate out of all the Democrats.
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« Reply #699 on: January 04, 2008, 07:35:40 AM »
Rep. Jesse L. Jackson Jr:  "The natural reminder here is O.J.  How does an African American candidate attack a white woman?"

Well, that sure clarifies the campaign strategy.

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« Reply #700 on: January 04, 2008, 09:14:41 AM »
Rep. Jesse L. Jackson Jr:  "The natural reminder here is O.J.  How does an African American candidate attack a white woman?"

Well, that sure clarifies the campaign strategy.

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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #701 on: January 04, 2008, 09:27:14 AM »
so, uh, this is probably a dumb question (:-[), but has hilary responded, in any way, to this loss yet, or will she?
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« Reply #702 on: January 04, 2008, 09:29:23 AM »
so, uh, this is probably a dumb question (:-[), but has hilary responded, in any way, to this loss yet, or will she?

She gave a speech last night.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #703 on: January 04, 2008, 09:32:46 AM »
oh right, i just found it on youtube. thanks.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #704 on: January 04, 2008, 09:39:48 AM »
It seems FoC has kept his promise and isn't coming back here. It isn't like him to not post in this topic for over a day.

RIP Ron Paul spam posts.
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #705 on: January 04, 2008, 09:42:57 AM »
I can't wait for Obama to save us from the TYRANNY OF OIL~

I've been oppressed my entire life, and never even knew it.

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« Reply #706 on: January 04, 2008, 09:57:07 AM »
so, i thought obama's speech was pretty good. granted, the fact that he won it helped, but hilary's speech, to the contrary, is a complete zzzzzzzzzzz. she didn't grab me at all with her speech.

it made obama's speech look like theoden's speech at the end rotk, lol.

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« Reply #707 on: January 04, 2008, 12:05:00 PM »
It seems FoC has kept his promise and isn't coming back here. It isn't like him to not post in this topic for over a day.

RIP Ron Paul spam posts.


What? I thought I won the bet.

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« Reply #708 on: January 04, 2008, 12:15:33 PM »
It seems FoC has kept his promise and isn't coming back here. It isn't like him to not post in this topic for over a day.

RIP Ron Paul spam posts.


What? I thought I won the bet.
How? He didn't get over 10%. It was dead in the middle. You did lose your claim he'd get in the top 3. You even said he NEEDED to get third to win the nomination. How do you stand now?
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #709 on: January 04, 2008, 12:16:03 PM »
I thought the bet was double digits...

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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #710 on: January 04, 2008, 12:17:25 PM »
I thought the bet was double digits...
I went back and checked. It was "over 10%"

Who will you support now if Paul does not run as a third party?
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« Reply #711 on: January 04, 2008, 12:20:05 PM »
I thought the bet was double digits...
I went back and checked. It was "over 10%"

Who will you support now if Paul does not run as a third party?

link me. If your right, go ahead and ban me.

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« Reply #712 on: January 04, 2008, 12:27:16 PM »
I thought the bet was double digits...
I went back and checked. It was "over 10%"

Who will you support now if Paul does not run as a third party?

link me. If your right, go ahead and ban me.
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He'll get more than 10% but I'll have to be banned. I probably couldn't do it voluntarily.

I'll take the bet, but I would rather bet with a book.  :)

You even claimed he'll get first place lol.
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« Reply #713 on: January 04, 2008, 12:28:39 PM »
i wonder how many people feel dumb having wasted their money

paul laughing his way to the bank, trading your money to gold
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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #714 on: January 04, 2008, 12:30:39 PM »
I guess you're right. I think I under estimated the douchbag evangelicals. They have hijacked the republican party and turned it into a jesus freak show. They no longer care about lower taxes and smaller government. I hope the cunts in Iowa have fun with Huckabee. I can't even imagine him being our president. God help us if he wins.

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Re: Official 2008 Election thread
« Reply #715 on: January 04, 2008, 12:31:26 PM »
so will you throw your support behind Obama if he wins NH now?
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« Reply #716 on: January 04, 2008, 12:33:05 PM »
so will you throw your support behind Obama if he wins NH now?

Probably not, my support wouldnt mean anything anyway. I hope Obama can deliver more than speeches though. Being in Texas my vote won't make or break either way. I'll just vote libertarian or write in Ron Paul.

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« Reply #717 on: January 04, 2008, 12:34:57 PM »
so will you throw your support behind Obama if he wins NH now?

Probably not, my support wouldnt mean anything anyway. I hope Obama can deliver more than speeches though. Being in Texas my vote won't make or break either way. I'll just vote libertarian or write in Ron Paul.
is your interest in politics dropping now that your political belief system has failed to catch on?
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« Reply #718 on: January 04, 2008, 12:35:51 PM »
so will you throw your support behind Obama if he wins NH now?

Probably not, my support wouldnt mean anything anyway. I hope Obama can deliver more than speeches though. Being in Texas my vote won't make or break either way. I'll just vote libertarian or write in Ron Paul.
is your interest in politics dropping now that your political belief system has failed to catch on?

My interest in the current political climate yes. I still have an interest in political philosophy.

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« Reply #719 on: January 04, 2008, 12:43:47 PM »
I guess you're right. I think I under estimated the douchbag evangelicals. They have hijacked the republican party and turned it into a jesus freak show. They no longer care about lower taxes and smaller government.

When did they? The Republican party has been this way for quite some time now.  :-\

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I hope the cunts in Iowa have fun with Huckabee. I can't even imagine him being our president. God help us if he wins.

Nice to see that there's something we can all agree on.
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