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OOTP...meh :(
« on: December 26, 2007, 11:30:08 PM »
Well maybe not, but god damn I'm pretty bummed. My brother bought it earlier today and I just got finished watching it.

I was shocked at how uninspired and dead everything looked. Obviously the same Hogwarts castle is used, but it seemed like all the life was sucked out - color, lighting, everything. The same goes for the surrounding environments. You could argue that this realer art direction makes sense considering the events that occur in the book but it still felt depressing, and not in a good Tim Burton way; hell many of the portraits on the walls don't even move. The direction really didn't help bring things to life either - out of all the films this one seemed to have the least style. On more than one occasion I couldn't help but be annoyed at how average everything was. Harry's dream sequences and the Occlumency flashbacks were especially unimaginative. The Ministry of Magic goes from a giant, sprawling government building to what looks like a big mall. Where's the magic?

I'm not the type of person who demands the films follow the books 100%, in fact my favorite one is still PoA which takes many creative liberties. I've read OOTP more than the other books and essentially know it front to end - it's simply too long and layered to faithfully adapt to film. But despite that I was still shocked at how much was skipped, ignored, and altered. The changes are apparent from the first scene, which I felt was logical for pacing issues. But the complete absence of Mundungus and the tagged-on Ms. Fig were jarring to me.

I'm not going to bitch about the cutting of much of the Grimwauld stuff; while I enjoyed Mrs. Black, Buckbeat, Sirius vs Snape, etc I realize that stuff wasn't too important for the film. Interestingly the script originally cut out Kreatcher but Rowling lobbied for him to be included due to his importance in the seventh book. But while Kreatcher is in the film for a couple minutes, Dobby is totally missing - instead of him finding the Room of Requirements for Harry, Neville seems to find it somehow. There's no Quidditch, Hagrid and many other characters make weak cameos, the more interesting rooms in the Department of Mysteries are missing...eh, no more bitching.

I'm also bummed there weren't more Sirius scenes. The few scenes Oldman has are great. I also thought Belletrix was done pretty awesome, as was Tonks - although she was in few scenes as well. I loved Umbridge. In terms of acting, I thought this was Radcliff's best stint as Harry; it wasn't his fault that Sirius's death was handled so poorly, not allowing him to react much. Grunt was funny as Ron. I'd agree that Emma Watson was the weak link; her idea of acting seems to be furrowing the brow and turning all dialogue into breathless, overly dramatic yelling.

Overall I honestly thought GoF was better. Both films are flawed but at least GoF seemed to emit a sense of magic, life, and humor in the environments, characters, and music; speaking of music, the Potter theme shows up maybe once in OOTP and is replaced with a rather boring, forgettable score.

5.5/10


SS: 7/10
CoS: 6/10
PoA: 9/10
GoF: 7/10
OOTP: 5.5/10

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Re: OOTP...meh :(
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2007, 11:37:02 PM »
You prefer Goblet of Fire? Really? REALLY?
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2007, 11:38:37 PM »
Goblet of Fire didn't even make sense if you weren't familiar with the book.  OOTP is at least coherent on its own merits.  PD fails again.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2007, 11:42:12 PM »
GoF comes on absolutely horrible, but it regains it feet once everyone gets to Hogwarts.

OOTP is accessible but I wouldn't consider that while reviewing the film from my perspective; I'd argue GoF is accessible if you haven't read the book as well, especially considering how different it is from the book. But like I said, at least GoF gets the important things right (for the most part) and is imaginative. I didn't see anything fresh or interesting in OOTP
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2007, 11:43:33 PM »
5 is in no fucking way a 5, jesus christ. Just get a job at 1up and be done with it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2007, 11:46:32 PM »
I have not read a single Harry Potter book nor have I watched a single Harry Potter movie. This fact alone should elevate me to the status of a god. Unfortunately, the other facts get in the way. 

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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2007, 11:46:47 PM »
GoF is INCOHERENT from scene to scene, and you can't follow it if you haven't read the book.  That means it is a total and complete failure!
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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2007, 11:47:52 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2007, 11:49:46 PM »
GoF is INCOHERENT from scene to scene, and you can't follow it if you haven't read the book.

pretty much. i'm hardly an idiot, but i couldn't make heads or tails of shit during my original gof viewing -- i had to have my wife explain it to me. also, gof's videogame plot is just lolworthy, and the trio trying to channel teen angst was hilariously awful. what the fuck was up with all the time spent on that stupid dance segue? oh yeah: mike fucking newell
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2007, 11:51:57 PM »
Maybe we watched a different film; I saw GoF three days ago and have seen it multiple times since its release without noticing that.

OOTP is coherent but fails to be interesting. So much of the most interesting scenes from the book are simply ruined to the point of being anti-climatic. Mr. Weasly being attacked by the snake is just wtf. You'd think something that dramatic would muster some drama, but instead its put on the back burner, and he shows up at Christmas dinner as if he just had a headache or something. Same thing with Sirius' death and the Weasly brother's final school prank.
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2007, 11:57:42 PM »
Sorry, PD, your terrible taste loses again.  GoF is the only movie in the series that I consider disappointing.  They tried to cram too much in and it ended up a mess.
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2007, 11:58:55 PM »
Sorry, PD, your terrible taste loses again.  GoF is the only movie in the series that I consider disappointing.  They tried to cram too much in and it ended up a mess.

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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2007, 12:01:04 AM »
Sorry, PD, your terrible taste loses again.  GoF is the only movie in the series that I consider disappointing.  They tried to cram too much in and it ended up a mess.

I agree its a mess, but it's still watchable and gets the basic themes and atmosphere right. OOTP is extremely disappointing to me considering I've read the book so many times and doesn't do anything interesting. There are just too many *rolls eyes* moments in it for me.
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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2007, 12:04:00 AM »
I think you are being blind to GoF's very obvious problems, like the unexplained bipolar reactions to Harry in the school.  These are all explained in the book, but not in the movie.  In one scene, everyone hates Harry.  In the next, they love him again.  It doesn't feel natural and it's not explained in anything resembling a satisfying manner.  Everyone in the school just comes off as FUCKING CRAZY.  It makes NO FUCKING SENSE.
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2007, 12:05:04 AM »
Oh, Maurice, when will you learn.  The last film adaptation was at least one billion times better than Goblet of Fire, which in reality, should've been the easiest book to translate to film.  Instead it is pretty much incoherent and a disaster - Order of the Phoenix was at least watchable and entertaining at times.
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2007, 12:06:20 AM »
why the hell would you read a harry potter book multiple times?

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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2007, 12:07:00 AM »
I think you are being blind to GoF's very obvious problems, like the unexplained bipolar reactions to Harry in the school.  These are all explained in the book, but not in the movie.  In one scene, everyone hates Harry.  In the next, they love him again.  It doesn't feel natural and it's not explained in anything resembling a satisfying manner.  Everyone in the school just comes off as FUCKING CRAZY.  It makes NO FUCKING SENSE.

Why would I be blind to them, the movie isn't worth blindly defending. Everyone hates Harry for the same reason Ron hates him - for being a show boat and allegedly putting his name into the Goblet. When he starts competing they finally come around to him, along with Ron.

If that was confusing you just weren't paying attention
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2007, 12:07:44 AM »
4 was my least favorite for the reasons tvc stated. The school's reactions to Harry are all over the place, the movie jumps to events all over the place, probably the worst acting of the 5 movies from the standard cast, and the whole first part of the movie looked like crap and was shot horribly.

EVEN THEN, I found enough to enjoy to save the 4th movie from a 5.5 that you have so carelessly tossed in the direction of OOTP.

I swear PD, you've become so damned predictable.
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2007, 12:08:32 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2007, 12:11:45 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2007, 12:12:24 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2007, 12:13:13 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2007, 12:14:15 AM »
If I only knew. :'(
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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2007, 12:21:11 AM »
PD...what the fuck?
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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2007, 12:22:10 AM »
PD...what the fuck?

Out of all people, you know I figured the movie would at least be ok. My brothers said it was sucky, and they were right for once.
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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2007, 12:22:59 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2007, 12:24:19 AM »
Do you think when Maurice and Jake are post-coital, spooning after an intimiate, sweaty session of passionate man sex, that they have a lively debate on Harry Potter adaptations as Maurice curls Jake's hair with his fingers?
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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2007, 12:26:39 AM »
Do you think when Maurice and Jake are post-coital, spooning after an intimiate, sweaty session of passionate man sex, that they have a lively debate on Harry Potter adaptations as Maurice curls Jake's hair with his fingers?
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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2007, 12:26:53 AM »
Whatever, as a Harry Potter fanboy even I can't make excuses for this movie. I ignored a lot of sentimentality to give this a low score, but I had to make a point. Overall it's a flawed, disappointing mess and I'm pissed Yates is coming back to direct HBP
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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2007, 12:27:08 AM »
I think you are being blind to GoF's very obvious problems, like the unexplained bipolar reactions to Harry in the school.  These are all explained in the book, but not in the movie.  In one scene, everyone hates Harry.  In the next, they love him again.  It doesn't feel natural and it's not explained in anything resembling a satisfying manner.  Everyone in the school just comes off as FUCKING CRAZY.  It makes NO FUCKING SENSE.

Why would I be blind to them, the movie isn't worth blindly defending. Everyone hates Harry for the same reason Ron hates him - for being a show boat and allegedly putting his name into the Goblet. When he starts competing they finally come around to him, along with Ron.

If that was confusing you just weren't paying attention

You're totally blind.  It wasn't so clear to me in the movie and I have read the book multiple times.  You see, I can compartmentalize the book from the movie and keep them as distinct entities in my head.  The book communicates what's going on effectively, whereas the movie does not.
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« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2007, 12:27:29 AM »
I think you ignored a lot of common sense ya dumb
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« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2007, 12:27:31 AM »
Better Yates that the jerk that directed Goblet of Fire.  That movie blew chunks.
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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2007, 12:28:41 AM »
PD you and your brothers are the only people on the planet who think OOTP is worse than GOF. I have no idea what movie the COOKS saw but it wasnt OOTP.
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« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2007, 12:30:27 AM »
I think you are being blind to GoF's very obvious problems, like the unexplained bipolar reactions to Harry in the school.  These are all explained in the book, but not in the movie.  In one scene, everyone hates Harry.  In the next, they love him again.  It doesn't feel natural and it's not explained in anything resembling a satisfying manner.  Everyone in the school just comes off as FUCKING CRAZY.  It makes NO FUCKING SENSE.

Why would I be blind to them, the movie isn't worth blindly defending. Everyone hates Harry for the same reason Ron hates him - for being a show boat and allegedly putting his name into the Goblet. When he starts competing they finally come around to him, along with Ron.

If that was confusing you just weren't paying attention

You're totally blind.  It wasn't so clear to me in the movie and I have read the book multiple times.  You see, I can compartmentalize the book from the movie and keep them as distinct entities in my head.  The book communicates what's going on effectively, whereas the movie does not.

I read the book once and saw that; in fact, I've never heard this specific complaint before. It's rather weak and you probably know it, considering how obvious the pacing is in the movie. But it's your opinion not mine.



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« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2007, 12:30:51 AM »
Meet the Cooks, 2007 (dir. Will Federman)

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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2007, 12:31:51 AM »
pd, you haven't heard a LOT of things in your creepy insular world, much less anything resembling real criticism of your precious harry potter. now you know: the bizarre canon in your head isn't gospel.
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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2007, 12:32:10 AM »
No, PD, I am most certainly correct.  I have seen that movie at least three times and I've read the book that many times as well.  I call em as I see em and I have no reason to make shit up.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong, and I am not a bullshit artist, at least when it comes to books and movies.  The issue is as I described it.
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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2007, 12:32:15 AM »
Meet the Cooks, 2007 (dir. Will Federman)

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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2007, 12:33:16 AM »
Prole, quit playing stupid - J.K. Rowling's fantasy masterpiece is only matched by the archaic writings of Tolkien in terms of the fantasy genre.  It's probably the greatest collection of stories since The New Testatment, but your snobby Wall Street Journal sensibilities wouldn't understand that.  You're too jaded and cynical and full of bitterness to grasp the magical world of a child.
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« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2007, 12:33:23 AM »
GoF was confusing if you didnt have knowledge of the novel. It was a mess in editing. OOTP was solid as an adaption
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« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2007, 12:34:36 AM »
GoF was confusing if you didnt have knowledge of the novel. It was a mess in editing. OOTP was solid as an adaption

Exactly.  I wouldn't exactly give OOTP an academy award, but it was totally a competent movie.  The only truly memorable thing about Goblet, for me, was the Riddle House/Graveyard at the end.  But that's a hard scene to mess up, I think.
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« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2007, 12:35:35 AM »
I would give Order of the Phoenix an Academy Award, but - hey! - I also gave Transformers a B-, so what do I know?
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« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2007, 12:36:55 AM »
No, PD, I am most certainly correct.  I have seen that movie at least three times and I've read the book that many times as well.  I call em as I see em and I have no reason to make shit up.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong, and I am not a bullshit artist, at least when it comes to books and movies.  The issue is as I described it.

What do you mean you're correct with respect to your opinion on a movie; didn't you throw a bitch fest at me over me doing something similar (albeit dumber)? Jeez. The pacing is pretty obvious, and having seen the film more than three times it couldn't have been clearer; at the least Ron gives it way most overtly. And I'm sorry, but giving one weak example of so called coherency issues isn't a particularly impressive argument
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« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2007, 12:38:05 AM »
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« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2007, 12:38:20 AM »
like i said, i have no problem following complicated movies with subverted narratives or bizarre chronologies. but gof made no fucking sense if you hadn't read the book. what's the quidditch shit at the beginning have to do with anything? who are all these people at these tribunals, and who the fuck is barty crouch -- and why should i care? hell, who the fuck are most of these new people, anyhow? why does everyone hate harry and then love him? why does ron flip out over something that's clearly not of harry's doing? what's this stupid high school dance subplot doing? what're all these deus ex machina resolutions to harry's videogame trials -- is harry good at anything? and why can't anybody act?
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« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2007, 12:39:22 AM »
pd, attacking tvc and his cinematic knowledge/experience won't save your clueless ass from a reaming. you couldn't fuckin' interpret unforgiven correctly!
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« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2007, 12:40:48 AM »
If there's anyone I don't dare to assume I can toe-to-toe with in terms of film knowledge and structure, it's probably TVC.
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« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2007, 12:41:16 AM »
No, PD, I am most certainly correct.  I have seen that movie at least three times and I've read the book that many times as well.  I call em as I see em and I have no reason to make shit up.  I have no problem admitting when I am wrong, and I am not a bullshit artist, at least when it comes to books and movies.  The issue is as I described it.

What do you mean you're correct with respect to your opinion on a movie; didn't you throw a bitch fest at me over me doing something similar (albeit dumber)? Jeez. The pacing is pretty obvious, and having seen the film more than three times it couldn't have been clearer; at the least Ron gives it way most overtly. And I'm sorry, but giving one weak example of so called coherency issues isn't a particularly impressive argument

I am most definitely correct in that the movie has pacing problems, and that it has serious issues with coherency.  Those things aren't arguable.  That's not my opinion; the film speaks the fact for itself.  Hell, it screams it.

My opinion on GoF is that it is the weakest of the movies by a considerable margin.  At the same time, I don't think it is that bad, and I enjoy it as a fan of the books, similar to how I like the Dune movie--both movies FAIL as adaptations because the source material is too much to be adapted accurately, but both movies succeed at presenting SCENES from their respective books.  So they both are inadequate adaptations, but they are fair keepsakes for the fans.  That's my opinion on the movie.  The fact of the matter, the science, is that the movie has serious pacing problems due to it trying to fit everything in.  It glosses over things and this makes things less clear and more confusing than they should be.  

You FAIL, PD.  You illustrate again that your taste is at best, wonky.  Leave the taste testing to us professionals.
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« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2007, 12:41:39 AM »
tvc, my money says that pd loves gof so much because it aspires to little more than slavishly recreating scenes from his precious books. connecting them together in the name of creating a movie apparently isn't in his interest.
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« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2007, 12:42:27 AM »
Prole hit the nail on the head in regards to Goblet of Fire - it throws a ton of crap at you with the belief that we're somehow reading the book while watching the movie.  Well, fuck you!  I wasn't!

The acting also hits a series low point and Daniel Radcock wins the Spidey Emo Award of the Year for his portrayal as the angsty, emo Harry Potter.  All it needed was a My Chemical Romance soundtrack.  Woe is Harry Potter!
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« Reply #50 on: December 27, 2007, 12:43:54 AM »
also, michael gambon played a spazzy-ass dumbledore. i hope richard harris' angry ghost rapes him into acting sobriety.
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« Reply #51 on: December 27, 2007, 12:45:11 AM »
Michael Gambon has perverted the film version of Dumbledore from Richard Harris' wise sage with ridiculous screen presence to a wily child molestor.
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« Reply #52 on: December 27, 2007, 12:45:41 AM »
for what it's worth, gof's baffling plot construction made me go back and read the book (and 5-7 as well), so now i can mock the books as a credible reader of the series, rather than a gaf-esque know-it-all bystander!
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« Reply #53 on: December 27, 2007, 12:45:55 AM »
Also, Ron Weasley looks like a total blobby pizza face in GoF.
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« Reply #54 on: December 27, 2007, 12:46:34 AM »
Apparently Ron's family is also too poor to afford acne magick.
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« Reply #55 on: December 27, 2007, 12:47:02 AM »
pd, attacking tvc and his cinematic knowledge/experience won't save your clueless ass from a reaming. you couldn't fuckin' interpret unforgiven correctly!

I'm not attacking him at all, although not being able to "get" Harry flippin Potter isn't the greatest stamp on a cinematic resume.

I agree with TVC that the film is severely flawed and has pacing problems, non of which have to do with the sparse example he gave. With respect to your own arguments - it's explained that Harry and the gang are going to the World Cup for fun, Crouch is explained at the Hogwarts banquet, and Ron's discontent with Harry is pretty obvious considering his character. While an average audience may not have a great understanding of Ron, they will know he's the poor, semi-untalented sidekick constantly being outshined by his popular friend, and naturally he would snap eventually.

TVC, along with Ichi and Solo, are considerably smarter than most people here with respect to film. But that doesn't mean they're opinion is always right, fact, or binding. It's opinion
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Re: OOTP...meh :(
« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2007, 12:48:47 AM »
You really didn't address any of our problems with the film and almost all the counterpoints you cited require a ridiculous amount of assuming.
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Re: OOTP...meh :(
« Reply #57 on: December 27, 2007, 12:49:54 AM »
i'm not talking about CHARACTER motivations, dipshit, since at this point NEITHER of us can separate our knowledge of the book from our initial experience with the movie. however, when watching a film, even an adaptation, i presume each scene has a greater purpose in a movie. the first scene was fucking useless -- OH BOY DEATH-EATERS ARE BACK THAT SURE FIT WELL IN A PLOT THAT DWELLED ON HIGH-SCHOOL ANGST AND A SET OF VIDEOGAME TRIALS. that scene was there for the fans and no-one else; it, like several other scenes, was throwaway and existed solely for fanservice, and it made the larger movie fucking confusing.

again, the movie tosses a ton of seemingly-random characters and scenes at you and assumes you've read the book. it relies on exposition to fill several gaps -- ever a no-no -- and lets your prior knowledge fill in the gaps. if you have zero knowledge of the book, it is a baffling, bumpy funhouse ride from scene to scene.
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Re: OOTP...meh :(
« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2007, 12:51:03 AM »
I'm right, PD  I just gave you my opinion on the movie, and it was more favorable than the opinion of most here.  My opinion is my subjective opinion.  What isn't my opinion is the actual problems of the movie, which as you can see, there is a nice concensus about.

I took you to task the other day for talking out your ass, and not only doing that, but trying to do it with authority.  Me, here?  I'm backed up here.  People agree that the problems, as objective as such things get in movies, are as I describe them, and you're stuck trying to be contrary.

Don't even try to say that I didn't "get" the fucking movie.  The movie just didn't do a great job of conveying what it was supposed to convey, for reasons I have said elsewhere in this thread.

Either way, I'm done fighting about Harry Potter.  Arguing with you is like TEARS IN RAIN.
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Re: OOTP...meh :(
« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2007, 12:52:24 AM »
why the hell would you read a harry potter book multiple times?
and I suggest that PD's name be changed to "Maurice the Battle Dancer"...temporarily maybe?

PD, assuming that much about a movie would not keep an audience in their seats for 15 minutes.  most of the people annoyed by the movie (read: have half a brain) are parents who never read the books and are there to babysit their shit stain brats.