Author Topic: randy moss is a douche (Read 4945 times)

xnikki118x · « **on:** January 04, 2008, 02:08:29 AM »

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/01/03/jerry-rice-calls-randy-moss-comments-a-slap-in-the-face-but-th/

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Jerry Rice Calls Randy Moss Comments a 'Slap in the Face, But That's Typical of Randy'
Posted Jan 3rd 2008 7:14AM by Michael David Smith
Filed under: 49ers, Patriots, Boston, San Francisco, The Word

Patriots wide receiver Randy Moss broke the all-time single-season receiving touchdowns record of Jerry Rice on Saturday, and after the game, Moss told reporters this:

"I don't think me breaking Jerry Rice's record is special," Moss said. "I think shutting you guys up is what made it special, all the negativity, all my critics."

Rice knows a thing or two about breaking records, and when he broke the records of the great receivers who came before him, he always showed respect for those receivers. So how did Rice feel about Moss saying breaking his record wasn't special? On a radio interview Wednesday, Rice said, "I's almost like a little slap in the face, but that's typical of Randy Moss."

Ouch. As great a player as Moss is, he's always lacked Rice's work ethic, both on the field and during the off-season, and he's always lacked Rice's classy, dignified approach to the game. Rice is right to say what he said about Moss.

Moss is a giant douche.

Someone posted in comments that Rice's record also occurred during a 12-game season, but I don't remember it and can't find the stats anywhere because my google-fu is sucking right now. Can anyone verify?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1 on:** January 04, 2008, 03:48:36 AM »

Yea, that's right. I didn't know that until I looked it up, either.

We already knew Moss was a douche, but the guy can play when he wants to.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2 on:** January 04, 2008, 03:53:43 AM »

"When he wants to" being the key phrase there. He's an amazing player and he's had a great season, but he doesn't have the heart of a champion (lol cliche). The Jordans of the sports world worked tirelessly to maintain their dominance; they never basked in the praise they received, and instead found various ways (however trivial) to motivate themselves to reach higher achievements. While all the negative coverage Moss has received definitely motivates him to succeed, it hasn't seemed to transform him into the dedicated worker that he could have been. Instead he prefers to throw the crowd a bone here or there, as if to say "see, you're wrong"...then go back to his lazy ways.

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CajoleJuice · « **Reply #3 on:** January 04, 2008, 03:54:43 AM »

That was a long unnecessary post. It's not like I said he was as good as Rice or anything.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #4 on:** January 04, 2008, 03:57:39 AM »

STFU and bow to my mastery of the pen

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CajoleJuice · « **Reply #5 on:** January 04, 2008, 03:59:48 AM »

xnikki118x · « **Reply #6 on:** January 04, 2008, 04:05:32 AM »

Good point PD.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2008, 09:13:57 AM »

First off, comparing Moss to Carter is ridiculous and just as big affront to Moss as this 'slam' was to Rice.

Second off, Rice ALWAYS has been a bitcher and moaner about not getting enough respect, so as a sports fan it's hard to feel sorry for him. Could Moss have kissed his ass? Sure, he probably should have. But my real problem with that comment was his slam on the press 'making them shut up.'

Moss, it would hold a LOT more water if you had made the press shut up when you were being a prissy little bitch in Oakland. There's a reason you were traded for a fourth round pick buddy, and it wasn't because you were a consumate professional.

Let it be said that although Rice often pissed and moaned, he was still ALWAYS a professional. Hell, when he was in Oakland he busted his ass to come back from injury after injury. He's the best wide receiver ever to play, and one of the best football players of all time.

Prost · « **Reply #8 on:** January 04, 2008, 04:02:20 PM »

jerry rice is the best at his position hands down

just like barry sanders is the best running back hands down, there's just nothing else to be said.

and like my brother says, jerry rice was one of those guys who could catch the ball right in the middle knowing that some 250lb back is going to completely destroy his ass, he'd work his ass off all the time, and ALWAYS performed. a bad game from rice was like a cold day in hell.

moss is fucking good, attitude or whatever just makes him inconsistent.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #9 on:** January 04, 2008, 04:30:55 PM »

Quote from: Prost on January 04, 2008, 04:02:20 PM

just like barry sanders is the best running back hands down, there's just nothing else to be said.

Actually, I could say a lot, but I'll just say "Jim Brown."

There is no position where there is a more clear cut 'best' than Jerry Rice. You can only argue second best.

You most certainly can argue running back, qb, or every other position in the game.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #10 on:** January 04, 2008, 04:33:30 PM »

What DJ said.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2008, 06:07:38 PM »

Brown, Sanders meh. Both are just placeholders in the HOF until Tebow gets into the NFL

etiolate · « **Reply #12 on:** January 04, 2008, 10:10:32 PM »

If Moss wanted to shutup the press then he would have been graceful and respectful after breaking the record. By saying what he said he just gave the press more to talk about it. Moss doesn't really get it. He probably won't be able to break the career records as well, because he is inconsistent and mentally inept. You need longeviety and consistency for career records.

And Rice did bitch when he was younger, at least for big contracts. He was a hard worker though and perfected release off the line and route running.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #13 on:** January 04, 2008, 10:39:48 PM »

Moss will likely break Rice's career TD record but will not touch his yardage record. Rice was still getting 1000+ yards at the age of forty. I don't see Moss playing at that age let alone excelling. However, with the exception of last season, he has been an outstanding receiver since his rookie season. He really hasn't been all that inconsistent etiolate.

Stop bashing Vince Carter people. :'( I still have a soft spot in my heart for that soft vagine.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2008, 12:19:30 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on January 04, 2008, 10:10:32 PM

And Rice did bitch when he was younger, at least for big contracts. He was a hard worker though and perfected release off the line and route running.

Bitched when he was older too, for bigger contracts with the 49ers. Bitched his way right out of town.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2008, 12:20:00 AM »

Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on January 04, 2008, 10:39:48 PM

Stop bashing Vince Carter people. :'( I still have a soft spot in my heart for that soft vagine.

I can't hate. He killed my Bobcats tonight :'(

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2008, 12:26:53 AM »

Like that's hard to do.

Well, my Mavs can't beat the Heat even though most of the starters for the Heat are injured.

xnikki118x · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2008, 03:29:40 AM »

I still have a Rice jersey hanging on my wall. I've seen the guy play. He's so fucking awesome.

etiolate · « **Reply #18 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:49:18 AM »

Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on January 04, 2008, 10:39:48 PM

Moss will likely break Rice's career TD record but will not touch his yardage record. Rice was still getting 1000+ yards at the age of forty. I don't see Moss playing at that age let alone excelling. However, with the exception of last season, he has been an outstanding receiver since his rookie season. He really hasn't been all that inconsistent etiolate.

Stop bashing Vince Carter people. :'( I still have a soft spot in my heart for that soft vagine.

Dude he is inconsistent from play to play. He had a rep for taking downs off in Minnesota.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2008, 11:13:22 AM »

People exaggerate.

Stocky · « **Reply #20 on:** January 05, 2008, 11:50:17 AM »

#1 - Yes, Rice broke the TD record in a 12 game season (due to a strike).

#2 - Prost actually said something I agree with. Barry Sanders being the greatest RB of all time.

#3 - How could you argue who the greatest QB of all time is? Do you watch football? Do you fucking know who Brett Favre is?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #21 on:** January 05, 2008, 12:01:34 PM »

Well....Favre is incredible, but he's also one of the worst passers in terms of interceptions. Double edged sword for passing so fucking much. But yeah, I'd agree he's pretty fuckin' incredible.

To me:

Montana
Favre
Marino
Elway

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hyp · « **Reply #22 on:** January 05, 2008, 01:34:41 PM »

i hope the pats lose in the playoffs just so moss won't ever win a championship. what a little bitch.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #23 on:** January 05, 2008, 03:21:01 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 05, 2008, 12:01:34 PM

Well....Favre is incredible, but he's also one of the worst passers in terms of interceptions. Double edged sword for passing so fucking much. But yeah, I'd agree he's pretty fuckin' incredible.

Everything is a fuckin' double-edged sword. Even a single-edged sword is a double-edged sword. Because ya know, one side isn't sharp and it doesn't cut so well...so it's kinda a double-edged sword.

jobber · « **Reply #24 on:** January 05, 2008, 04:03:19 PM »

something ain't right.....

Rice has a radio show on NFL Radio and he invited Moss to call in so Rice could congratulate him and Moss didn't call in. Rice then says that's typical Randy Moss.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #25 on:** January 05, 2008, 05:10:23 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 05, 2008, 12:01:34 PM

Well....Favre is incredible, but he's also one of the worst passers in terms of interceptions. Double edged sword for passing so fucking much. But yeah, I'd agree he's pretty fuckin' incredible.

To me:

Montana
Favre
Marino
Elway
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So football was invented in the 1980's?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #26 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:23:58 PM »

Um, okay, who else?

Bart Starr? Bradshaw?

I'm just saying who the best is. Just turns out the best happens to come from the 80s and early 90s.

y2kev · « **Reply #27 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:34:28 PM »

Unitas? Namath?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #28 on:** January 05, 2008, 09:42:50 PM »

Unitas and maybe Staubach should be in the top five. It's hard to compare stats as the eras were so different. Unitas played in an era where quarterbacks completed only about 50% of their passes. And the average quarterback threw as many interceptions as touchdowns. And some seasons they actually threw more picks than touchdowns.

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Namath? No way. One Superbowl does not a career make. He had a good career. But that's all it was; good.

xnikki118x · « **Reply #29 on:** January 05, 2008, 10:41:51 PM »

My grandfather ALWAYS mentions Unitas when talking about great players.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #30 on:** January 06, 2008, 03:12:29 AM »

lol at Namath

This coming from a Jets fan.

Stocky · « **Reply #31 on:** January 06, 2008, 11:16:42 AM »

lol, Namath.

Want to know why the best QBs are from the 80's and on? Because the game was reinvented, that's why.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #32 on:** January 06, 2008, 12:50:15 PM »

Quote from: jobber on January 05, 2008, 04:03:19 PM

something ain't right.....

Rice has a radio show on NFL Radio and he invited Moss to call in so Rice could congratulate him and Moss didn't call in. Rice then says that's typical Randy Moss.

Actually, that's typical Jerry Rice too. WTF, no one ever calls him on his egotistical bullshit. I've never seen a more needy super-duper star than Jerry Rice, and he's always been like that. I guess it's true that all receivers are batshit insane.

Oh, and lol @ Favre being unquestionably the best QB to play. 3 mvps in a row (although one was shared) are not enough to make up for only 1 Super Bowl. Not that the latter is Favre's fault, that's just the way history will judge it. If he won this year, well, you'd have to consider it at least until Brady retires (assuming he can continue what he did this year.)

QB's have definitely evolved since the 70's, and if you pay attention they are evolving even now. Never have completion percentages been higher for the greats with the same record yardage and TDs, while throwing much less INTs. Favre, to his credit, did evolve this year and protected the ball better.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #33 on:** January 06, 2008, 12:56:53 PM »

1. Moon
2. Namath
3. Favre
4. Archie
5. Unitas

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DJ_Tet · « **Reply #34 on:** January 06, 2008, 01:10:49 PM »

y2kev · « **Reply #35 on:** January 06, 2008, 01:18:26 PM »

shut up, namath haters

(i just said namath cause old people talk about namath. i hate the jets lol)

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #36 on:** January 06, 2008, 01:31:24 PM »

Quote from: DJ_Tet on January 06, 2008, 12:50:15 PM

QB's have definitely evolved since the 70's, and if you pay attention they are evolving even now. Never have completion percentages been higher for the greats with the same record yardage and TDs, while throwing much less INTs. Favre, to his credit, did evolve this year and protected the ball better.

Quarterbacks haven't changed so much as football has changed. Rule changes made it more difficult for defenses to slow the progress of receivers; there have been many rules created to protect the QB; and offensive lines were constructed with the passing game in mind instead of the running game.

Come on Dark! Moon, Namath, and Archie Manning are no even in the discussion.

Montana
Unitas
Marino
Favre
Brady/Manning

/discussion

thekavorka · « **Reply #37 on:** January 06, 2008, 01:58:51 PM »

archie? ARCHIE?

jesus christ

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #38 on:** January 06, 2008, 10:23:06 PM »

Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on January 06, 2008, 01:31:24 PM

Quarterbacks haven't changed so much as football has changed. Rule changes made it more difficult for defenses to slow the progress of receivers; there have been many rules created to protect the QB; and offensive lines were constructed with the passing game in mind instead of the running game.

Come on Dark! Moon, Namath, and Archie Manning are no even in the discussion.

Montana
Unitas
Marino
Favre
Brady/Manning

/discussion

Right, you put it better than I did. I meant more that the numbers which QBs are measured by are changing. The number of turnovers or completion percentages considered good or all-pro level in the mid 80s are low end stats now. So, you can't purely look at the numbers, but when you see completion percentages of 70%+ I think you have to recognize that.

So to me, Brady and Manning (Peyton lol) are in the discussion. So is Favre and Marino.

To argue that Namath or Archie Manning even belong in the same zip code that this discussion is taking place is laughable. There is no argument, at all.

Moon, maybe he can take a bus and drive past the meeting, he threw for a shitton of yards everywhere and had longevity to boot.

My personal list happens to include everyone you listed. Well, tbh I don't know a ton about Unitas and I know his stats don't hold up, but I feel there likely is a QB in the list that I haven't seen play. You have to throw Elway onto your list as well.

So, finally, its:

Montana
Marino
Favre
Elway
Manning
Brady
And I guess Unitas

In some order.

No discussion.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #39 on:** January 06, 2008, 10:25:14 PM »

Eh, Montana is no Moon

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #40 on:** January 06, 2008, 10:38:42 PM »

DJ_Tet, I would probably put Elway in my top ten, but not in my top five.

Dark come on, Montana won more SuperBowls than Moon won playoff games. And I think Moon threw twice as many picks as Montana.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #41 on:** January 06, 2008, 10:40:24 PM »

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Moon has no peer

Rman · « **Reply #42 on:** January 06, 2008, 10:40:57 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on January 06, 2008, 01:18:26 PM

shut up, namath haters

(i just said namath cause old people talk about namath. i hate the jets lol)

Hating the Jets is like hating the Cubs.

You just can't help but feel sorry for them.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #43 on:** January 07, 2008, 12:38:25 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 06, 2008, 10:40:24 PM

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Moon has no peer

:bastard

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #44 on:** January 07, 2008, 01:37:02 AM »

Quote from: Malek: King of Kings on January 06, 2008, 01:31:24 PM

Montana
Unitas
Marino
Favre
Brady/Manning

/discussion

I'll roll with this. But yea, Elway is next.

Prost · « **Reply #45 on:** January 07, 2008, 05:09:12 AM »

people shouldnt ignore the fact that even though moss is a piece of shit, he's still a fucking incredible player when he wants to be

Stocky · « **Reply #46 on:** January 08, 2008, 11:07:22 AM »

Eh, it's tough. I think I'd put Elway in before Marino.

Though, if Mr. Davis wasn't in Denver, they'd still be without a Super Bowl win.

Stocky · « **Reply #47 on:** January 08, 2008, 11:08:02 AM »

Quote from: Prost on January 07, 2008, 05:09:12 AM

people shouldnt ignore the fact that even though moss is a piece of shit, he's still a fucking incredible player when he wants to be

Speed and height really doesn't make you incredible.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #48 on:** January 08, 2008, 11:33:19 AM »

Quote from: Happy Rhymenocerous on January 08, 2008, 11:07:22 AM

Eh, it's tough. I think I'd put Elway in before Marino.

Though, if Mr. Davis wasn't in Denver, they'd still be without a Super Bowl win.

I agree with this. You have to consider that Elway made it to three Super Bowls in the 80's compared to just one for Marino.

Elway had a ton of yards and stats too, I think they are both in the discussion but Elway had more personal sucess.

xnikki118x · « **Reply #49 on:** January 08, 2008, 11:02:02 PM »

Very good point, as much as I hate hate hate John Elway.

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