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brawndolicious

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Religious art question.
« on: January 07, 2008, 12:17:30 AM »


why is there a belly button?  did the artist just think that would make sense or something?

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 12:19:50 AM »
Because white people have belly buttons as we are naturally born, unlike you heathen scum that are just raised up through the cracks of hell. 

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 12:21:48 AM »
I'd ask why his swanson was so small before I got to the belly button issue.

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 12:22:51 AM »
that about wraps it up for God
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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 12:24:29 AM »


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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 12:24:59 AM »
god is NOT the father!
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brawndolicious

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 12:27:30 AM »
my friend asked me that after he researched atheism.

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 12:28:54 AM »
wow couldnt have find a lower quality pic of that?

CurseoftheGods

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 12:32:03 AM »
None of the religious scriptures state whether or not Adam and Eve had a navel/bellybutton.

To be fair, I don't think that Michelangelo had extensive knowledge about human embryology either.  

brawndolicious

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 12:32:51 AM »
not one that would let me hotlink.

interesting fact, michael angelo had like a..man-body-fetish thing which is why all the women he drew looked masculine and the men he drew were always naked but he made the penis of ADAM so small.  pretty odd.

None of the religious scriptures state whether or not Adam and Eve had a navel/bellybutton.
To be fair, I don't think that Michelangelo had extensive knowledge about human embryology either. 
oh so he just made an assumption?

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 12:36:30 AM »
Probably.

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 12:42:17 AM »
Michelangelo knew probably more about human physiology than most doctors of his day.  During the period he was painting the Sistine Chapel, he was illicitly, secretly cutting up corpses at night.

Michelangelo was a pretty cool dude. Insanely intelligent. Lol I said Da Vinci at first
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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 12:52:47 AM »
Michelangelo knew probably more about human physiology than most doctors of his day.  During the period he was painting the Sistine Chapel, he was illicitly, secretly cutting up corpses at night.

Michelangelo was a pretty cool dude. Insanely intelligent. Lol I said Da Vinci at first

Very true (that's why I said embryology, I was trying to be very careful with my wording :lol).

Funny that you mention Da Vinci (even if it was accidentally), he's probably my favorite of the Italian artists.

I am not sure if you've ever been to Paris, TVC, but going to the Louvre and seeing the art live was one of the best experiences of my life.

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 12:55:25 AM »
Michelangelo knew probably more about human physiology than most doctors of his day.  During the period he was painting the Sistine Chapel, he was illicitly, secretly cutting up corpses at night.

Michelangelo was a pretty cool dude. Insanely intelligent. Lol I said Da Vinci at first

Very true (that's why I said embryology, I was trying to be very careful with my wording :lol).

Funny that you mention Da Vinci (even if it was accidentally), he's probably my favorite of the Italian artists.

I am not sure if you've ever been to Paris, TVC, but going to the Louvre and seeing the art live was one of the best experiences of my life.

I really want to do a Europe trip this year.  I'd want to hit up Paris if only for the Louvre, although I bet I can kill months in Paris pretty easily.  I originally wanted to do a UK centered trip, but now I am thinking mainland.  If I do that, I very badly want to hit up Paris and Rome.  I want Prague and Greece, too, but looking at maps, that appears unlikely to be an efficient possibility.
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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 02:15:31 AM »
I am not sure if you've ever been to Paris, TVC, but going to the Louvre and seeing the art live was one of the best experiences of my life.
that was one of the most underwhelming things I have ever seen.  like everybody in the museum went there to see that one painting (you couldn't even get a good picture) and the map even specified where to go to see that.

paris is a craphole.  keep out of it no matter how much cool stuff there is in the louvre.

rome is awesome though.  you can spend weeks there going around to different places.  people are also all really nice.  even the vatican city was pretty easy to tour around.

TVC15

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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2008, 02:16:30 AM »
Now I want to go to Paris even more!
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brawndolicious

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2008, 02:31:05 AM »
well if you want to go to rome too, at least drive from rome to all the big historic italian cities and pass through Nice on your way to Paris.  probably the best way and italy isn't really that big so you only drive a couple hours between each city.  Nice is nice because it just has awesome beaches.  I don't think they allow topless women anymore though on public beaches.

maybe the louvre normally isn't that bad but I (without knowing) went there on Bastille Day so the city was probably more packed than normal and it was free to go to the louvre that day.  there were at least 150 people pushing around in the mona lisa exhibit but now that I think about it, the rest of the museum was pretty quiet.  I don't know if you've noticed this, but I don't now that much about art but the statues and paintings I saw in Italy were WAY more awesome than the ones in the louvre although the ones in the vatican city do have their dongs chopped off and covered with a leaf.  apparently they keep them all in a special room in case some liberal pope wants them reattached.

back on topic, adam had no umbelical cord..based on the mythology.  maybe the pope should have gone over michael angelo's drawings before he put them on the roof of the sistine chapel?  oh wait he probably did!

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2008, 03:51:02 AM »
I don't know if you've noticed this, but I don't now that much about art but the statues and paintings I saw in Italy were WAY more awesome than the ones in the louvre although the ones in the vatican city do have their dongs chopped off and covered with a leaf.  apparently they keep them all in a special room in case some liberal pope wants them reattached.

I don't see why they were chopped in the first place. Michaelangelo's David still has a penis, right? It's part of the artwork. No reason it should be removed and covered with a leaf.

That's hilarious that they supposedly have a bunch of penises in a room, though!
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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2008, 04:28:15 AM »
I don't know if you've noticed this, but I don't now that much about art but the statues and paintings I saw in Italy were WAY more awesome than the ones in the louvre although the ones in the vatican city do have their dongs chopped off and covered with a leaf.  apparently they keep them all in a special room in case some liberal pope wants them reattached.

I don't see why they were chopped in the first place. Michaelangelo's David still has a penis, right? It's part of the artwork. No reason it should be removed and covered with a leaf.

That's hilarious that they supposedly have a bunch of penises in a room, though!

That's what they steal in National Treasure 3: Phalluses of Fortune
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brawndolicious

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2008, 04:38:29 AM »
I don't see why they were chopped in the first place. Michaelangelo's David still has a penis, right? It's part of the artwork. No reason it should be removed and covered with a leaf.
That's hilarious that they supposedly have a bunch of penises in a room, though!
well when they made those statues, it was during a more liberal time (I think renaissance) and so the church didn't have too much of a problem with it.  about 60-100 years later I believe, the church became more conservative and they thought it was improper to have all that nudity.  so they cut them off and saved them for later just in case (I do not remember how they cataloged them).  the room does exist though, the tour guide said pope John Paul the second I believe was considering re-attaching them.

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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2008, 04:47:24 AM »
Keep in mind that some of this art happened during the period in which one of the Borgias was pope.  That dude, that POPE was the inspiration for Machiavelli's The Prince, and he had ORGIES IN THE VATICAN.  A little cock or titty on a statue wasn't nothin' to him.  Popes were still allowed to bone chicks back then.  But not get married.
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brawndolicious

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Re: Religious art question.
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2008, 06:22:29 AM »
ORGIES IN THE VATICAN.
must have provided awesome research material for michael angelo.

there were also sexual symbols in MA's art in the sistine chapel.  for example, he draws a man with an uncanny resemblance to one of the cardinals or priests that MA disliked having his cock bitten off by a serpent in a picture describing what hell is supposed to feel like.

living back then, as long as you were "catholic", you could probably do any ol' thang.

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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2008, 09:02:47 AM »
Leonardo hated Michelangelo.  As did Raphael and vice versa.  Apparently he was kind of a whiny dick.   :lol

For more information see Renaissance Rivals: Michelangelo, Leonardo, Raphael, Titian by Rona Goffen.

OH THE DRAMA.
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brawndolicious

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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2008, 12:04:48 PM »
well Raphael was like the..Rock Star while Michaelangelo was the recluse who sat in the sistine chapel painting it all day.  there's actually an interesting Raphael painting showing Michaelangelo as the humble, reclusive genius that doesn't care what anybody thinks but I forgot it's name.  I don't know much about Leo.

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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2008, 08:07:43 PM »
Donatello does machines!!!!!!
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