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Van Cruncheon

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the power of nostalgia, part the infinitum
« on: January 07, 2008, 04:29:16 PM »
i was up until 2am last night playing fucking FINAL FANTASY TACTICS on the psp. it is not a good tactics game. the job system is retardedly busted, and not in the good nis-kinda busted way. it is possibly the grindiest tactics rpg ever made, and the uneven distribution of JP across wholly arbitrary classes is nonsensical. add in slow play, a gimpy, overcomplicated interface, a borked phase system, and a heaping host of game-breaking ubercharacters, and you have a game that should be reviled in the modern srpg clime.

oh, and the new translation is a different kind of awful. it attempts to mimick elizabethan prose, and mixes it with more overwrought metaphors and tortured similes than the average drinky crow post as well as lame inside references to "spoony bards." fuck that noise. it's a smidge better than the largely unparsable original, but it's still no fun to read.

why am i playing it, then? NOSTALGIA. the fucking sakimoto score takes me back to good ol' nineteen-ninety whats-it, when i had just gotten married and graduated from college and the dark stupid period of my life had largely come to a close. THIS IS WHAT NOSTALGIA DOES TO YOU, people, especially when there are musical cues. that's why you think mario or zelda games are initially better than they actually are -- it's those little glissondes and musical sequences that trigger the fluffy endorphin clouds that comprise our sense of nostalgia.

fuck, fft is awful. i hope this nostalgia kick passes soon!
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Re: the power of nostalgia, part the infinitum
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 04:31:58 PM »
Forgive me. 'Tis your birth and faith that wrong you, not I.
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Re: the power of nostalgia, part the infinitum
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 04:32:17 PM »
i liked ffta, but didn't like fft.
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Re: the power of nostalgia, part the infinitum
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 05:31:51 PM »
I remember TVC also said it didn't age well too.  I was going to pick this up or Disgaea.  I'll probably pick this up though.  I'm a FF cigarillo like that.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 05:34:00 PM »
TVC said the slowdown was stylistic

yeahhhhhhh, no
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Van Cruncheon

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Re: the power of nostalgia, part the infinitum
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 05:59:16 PM »
disgaea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fft
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 06:15:23 PM »
"This is the way!"
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 06:17:55 PM »
Tactics Ogre > FFT

Why does music have that effect on people? music makes me so damn nostalgic for shit
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Re: the power of nostalgia, part the infinitum
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 06:18:07 PM »
the power of nintendo ®
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Re: the power of nostalgia, part the infinitum
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 08:20:42 PM »
People keep talking about the slowdown, but either my memory is borked, or the PSX version had some slowdown as well, didn't it?

I've been playing it too, Prole (just got to Chapter 3 when I was on the airplane back to Japan).  It hasn't aged as well as I thought it would (I actually enjoyed playing through Jeanne D'Arc more), but I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be.  There's some things I like about it: the fact that there's no restrictions - you want to attack an empty space? Go for it! You're using a gun but the enemy is too close to shoot at? Aim for the empty block behind it!; the job system is still pretty ace, though the new jobs are beyond worthless; I :heartbeat grinding in SRPGs; new cinematics are pretty sweet.

The new translation is sometimes overwrought (I especially hated that they changed Cardinal Delacroix's line about Ramza being a bastard to something about him being "the child of a courtesan"...the original line was pretty shocking for my teenage self to see in a video game), but it's much better than the mostly terrible original translation.

WHAT DID YOU GET RAMZA

WHAT DID YOU GET
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Re: the power of nostalgia, part the infinitum
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2008, 11:32:27 PM »
Why do you keep ruining the memories of your past? STOP PLAYING OLD GAMES.

Please don't tell me FFTA>>>FFT. I don't want to live in a world where that equation is true.


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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2008, 11:58:19 PM »
that's why you think mario or zelda games are initially better than they actually are -- it's those little glissondes and musical sequences that trigger the fluffy endorphin clouds that comprise our sense of nostalgia.

Well, not necessarily. At least for the Marios and Zeldas I like, the only problems I noticed (such as when I was playing SMW the other day) was that they're too short.  :'(

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Why do you keep ruining the memories of your past? STOP PLAYING OLD GAMES.

I should probably listen to this.
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Re: the power of nostalgia, part the infinitum
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 12:06:34 AM »
i liked ffta

why

Because he likes his mouth filled with poop and ffta gave him that exact sensation.  Nutty. 

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Re: the power of nostalgia, part the infinitum
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2008, 12:11:30 AM »
Don't blame us. Blame yourself or God...