Dating Market Value quiz - how do you fare?

[Tauntaun]

yeah, i  only wish my wife made more than me -- then i'd be RICH RICH RICH RICH RICH RICH

You just say, "EH...WOMAN!  GET TO WORKIN HO!.....I LOVE YOU BITCH!"  Then give her an affirmative slap on the ass to back up your statement of love and put that new uber comp on the credit card. 

[Van Cruncheon]

well, roissy's blog targets the insecure in general; otherwise, why go to a blog for personal advice? of course his content is going to be tailored to those who want affirmative, black-and-white proof of their social viability and/or superiority. on the other hand, his blog (and himself)  seem to retread a lot of things and have repeat (read: serial) readers, which must mean that his advice isn't terribly effective in this hilarious nuanced environment we call "the real world". not that i doubt he -- or his advocates -- gets pussy! there's plenty of women who want some social dogma to define their interactions, just like men! isn't life so much easier when you convince yourself that everybody agrees with what you believe, especially when your beliefs validate your jackoff shallow by-the-book-and-buy-the-book approach to life? i know it helps me, fegs!

roissy teaches the easily exploited to exploit other easily exploited folks, which results in a giant gruesome circlejerk the select few with a strong sense of self should probably stay out of, lest they find themselves in roissy's pivot man role.

[Mandark]

Gah, I just read some of the front page of Roissy's blog.  I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Also, the market value thing was funnier when it was called Ladder Theory and written with tongue-in-cheek bitterness, rather than bowdlerized street wisdom.  In my head, the quiz was being read by the voices of Johnny Drama and Turtle.

[tiesto]

I go to the blog for the regulars, they're a total cast of characters.

David Alexander - the blog's PD, a black guy from the suburbs (I think he might have even mentioned Long Island) who is a chronic virgin
Gannon - dude from Argentina who is into anime, videogames, and young girls (bet you didn't see that one coming!)
Peter - loves hairy snatch ( )
Dizzy and M Bradwell - women who frequently disagree with Roissy on the aspects of his blog, but always coming back

[Barry Egan]

All 5 of those people are roissy.

[etiolate]

I seemingly exist outside the realm of this whole market value deal. Most of the options don't fit. I will admit that when I see guys do all the things that are +points, it normally repulses me and that has to be worth lots of negative points.

For example, I am at the coffee house studying. Two attractive girls come and sit by the table next to me to study as well. Now, they aren't sitting next to me because they want me, they just chose a table near the window like I did and really aren't here to pick up anyone. Soon enough, three boys come over, pull up chairs surrounding the girls and start talking to them.  In pop pickup lines, extroversion outbursts, bad jokes and various relaxed exaggerated poses to look cool. About 10 minutes in, the girls quit studying early and leave, walking past the barrier of wolves. I give the guys a disappointed look, because they have basically robbed the room of free eye candy by being alpha fails.

[cloudwalking]

the test for the women is severely skewed (not surprising, since it was written by a man).

take this question for example:

29.  You are about to have sex with a guy for the first time.  He undresses and his penis is small.  Do you:

Tell him how great his cock looks and feels?:  +1 point
Say nothing:  0 points
Look surprised and stifle a laugh:  -1 point

choose number 3, and you lose points.

obviously the guy who made this quiz has a tiny schlong. a girl who prefers big cocks doesn't make her any less desirable to a man who has a big cock!

[demi]

that question doesnt specify whether he's limp or erect, either

[pollo]

any of those lines roissy has i would never say. I'd never feel comfortable saying any of them to come off genuine. Seriously I don't understand this about some people, are they that insecure that they have to act like someone else to make themselves feel comfortable?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

All 5 of those people are roissy.

Wouldn't doubt it, to be honest.

Most of these dating experts, once they reach a certain level of popularity, begin putting out books, e-books, audio discs, video seminars, and dating seminars (which can cost into the thousands of dollars for just a weekend).  The dating coach arena is nothing but a hustle to take advantage of rich but socially inept nerds.

[tiesto]

Seriously I don't understand this about some people, are they that insecure that they have to act like someone else to make themselves feel comfortable?

Yup, they really are. I speak from experience as a fairly insecure individual, and I know others who are even more insecure than myself who have fallen hook line and sinker into the PUA industry. They buy (or pirate) all the PUA handbooks and DVDs and will do anything they can to get a heads up in the dating game.

For myself, being the slightly awkward, average looking music/game nerd who sucks with flirting hasn't worked very well for me. Out of all the girls I've hooked up with, only one would be considered anything worth looking at. And I've been on more dates in '07 through Match than most people have been on in their whole lives... seriously last year I was going out with different girls maybe once or twice a week, and only about 5% of them I made it to a second date with. Makes it seem like "just being yourself" is the wrong thing to do.

The main things I've taken from all the PUA guides I read are:

1. Don't come across as whiny and insecure
2. Confidence is essential
3. Always keep them guessing and on their toes

[Mupepe]

I'd be happy with a woman that made more money than me.  I'd deal with her being a cunt on the change i might get a free ride.

STAY AT HOME DAD

[recursivelyenumerable]

In pop pickup lines, extroversion outbursts,

How can an "extroversion outburst" pop "in"?  Maybe you'd have more luck with women if you stopped mixing your metaphors!

"alpha fails" is cute though.

[Flannel Boy]

1. Don't come across as whiny and insecure

strike one

2. Confidence is essential

strike two

3. Always keep them guessing and on their toes

I don't know what that even means.
STRIKE THREE!