Updated: Even NEWER Tom Cruise Video increases INSANITY ten fold

[TVC15]

I mean, antipsychotics?  Who needs them, right?  We should let irrational people be as irrational as they want to be.  Surely that would not be a hazard to the public at large.  

[abrader]

I want to be clear that my disdain for chemical based therapy does not in any way mean I endorse or support the Scientology organization.

The Scientology organization is about more than hating psychiatry and drugs.

LOL - I did onsite research back in 95-96 at FLAGG

I got it all figured out!

[abrader]

I mean, antipsychotics?  Who needs them, right?  We should let irrational people be as irrational as they want to be.  Surely that would not be a hazard to the public at large.  

Thats what tranqs and firing squads are for!

[The Fake Shemp]

Scientology thinks basic therapy is evil too, even though that's essentially what they implement.

[AdmiralViscen]

I want to be clear that my disdain for chemical based therapy does not in any way mean I endorse or support the Scientology organization.

The Scientology organization is about more than hating psychiatry and drugs.

LOL - I did onsite research back in 95-96 at FLAGG

I got it all figured out!

I didn't think you were confused 

Scientology thinks basic therapy is evil too, even though that's essentially what they implement.

NO NO ITS ABOUT REMOVING THETANS

[abrader]

have you guys seen the outfits they wear at Flagg?

[TVC15]

If you're having debilitating delusions and hallucinations, it's YOUR FAULT for being a FUCKING PUSSY.  Of course people that are outside of the reach of reason still maintain the capacity to drive their brain like a fine european sports car.

[AdmiralViscen]

have you guys seen the outfits they wear at Flagg?

Have you seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion? C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate?

[abrader]

People only lose the power when they convince themselves they dont have it - and then some do truly have their wires crossed.....and thats what tranqs and firing squads are for.....or the classic frontal lobe lobotomy.

[abrader]

have you guys seen the outfits they wear at Flagg?

Have you seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion? C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate?

<3

[TVC15]

If my son was one of them queer schizophrenics, I would make him put on a football helmet and just kick him in the head repeatedly. After that, I am sure he will be A-OK!  It's not like there's anything legitimately wrong with him.

[abrader]

If my son was one of them queer schizophrenics, I would make him put on a football helmet and just kick him in the head repeatedly. After that, I am sure he will be A-OK!  It's not like there's anything legitimately wrong with him.

I honestly believe that our society has let people slime themselves into the most helpless positions imaginable all because they are lazy.

I am not speaking for every case - but many times I have seen doctors hand down diagnoses simply because they dont know what else to do - and then we all pay for it when the person is considered to be disabled and gets disability benefits.

[abrader]

Also I dont think sexual preferences have any thing to do with behavioral disorders.

[TVC15]

Yeah, I know TONS of people that pretend to be crazy just so they can live off that fantastic homeless meal ticket!  It's such an easy life.

[abrader]

Yeah, I know TONS of people that pretend to be crazy just so they can live off that fantastic homeless meal ticket!  It's such an easy life.

No but from my club days I have seen a few leftovers who were just alcoholics get schitzo effective diagnoses and then collect their $1,000 to $2,000 per month to party while they live at home with their 50 yr old parents.

When I was a social science student I interned with a few private practice doctors too - but I cant really go into all of that..

[AdmiralViscen]

If my son was one of them queer schizophrenics, I would make him put on a football helmet and just kick him in the head repeatedly. After that, I am sure he will be A-OK!  It's not like there's anything legitimately wrong with him.

I honestly believe that our society has let people slime themselves into the most helpless positions imaginable all because they are lazy.

I am not speaking for every case - but many times I have seen doctors hand down diagnoses\simply because they dont know what else to do - and then we all pay for it when the person is considered to be disabled and gets disability benefits.

Do you peek through the window or just bug their office?

edit: i c

Shouldn't we be calling for an end to shitty doctors of all backgrounds instead of condemning an entire field of expertise that tons of people make us of day to day without even realizing it?

[Eel O'Brian]

xanax rules

[TVC15]

Yeah, I know TONS of people that pretend to be crazy just so they can live off that fantastic homeless meal ticket!  It's such an easy life.

No but from my club days I have seen a few leftovers who were just alcoholics get schitzo effective diagnoses and then collect their $1,000 to $2,000 per month to party while they live at home with their 50 yr old parents.

When I was a social science student I interned with a few private practice doctors too - but I cant really go into all of that..

Then your issue is with certain individuals, not the science.  And Paxil helps some people.  If it helps people get through, what's the harm?  It's not for me, but I know as an adult that's very very busy, I very frequently DO NOT HAVE THE TIME to properly deal with issues, so a quick fix would be preferabe.  I am sure there are many many more people in the exact same boat.

[abrader]

I have my reasons - but I also agree with your (the posters here) views.

[Flannel Boy]

PSYCHOLOGY WILL BE THE DEATH OF YOU!

[Joe Molotov]

Or people could just take control of their own minds and stop creating industries for these $$ grubbers...

You should team up with Kevin Trudeau to write a Psychiatric Self-Help guide, with the all-natural cures "They" don't want us to know about!

[The Fake Shemp]

Or people could just take control of their own minds and stop creating industries for these $$ grubbers...

You should team up with Kevin Trudeau to write a Psychiatric Self-Help guide, with the all-natural cures "They" don't want us to know about!

And "They" = THE JEWZ

[TVC15]

Fact: the jews invented Tourette's syndrome to keep the white man down.  Also post-traumatic stress disorder.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I honestly believe that our society has let people slime themselves into the most helpless positions imaginable all because they are lazy.

Laziness can be preferable to diligent activity that actually harms society.  For example, if all the PR flacks, lobbyists, and IT middle managers whose jobs mostly consist of aggressive bullshitting were to instead stay home in bed and collect welfare checks, the world would be a better place.

[Ichirou]

Psychiatry blos......its as bad as posting your problems on the web

Psychotropics are for girly men, pill poppers and drug addicts.

Jesus, abrader.  What the fuck.

[abrader]

Jesus Christ Ichy go fuck yourself.

I can think what I want - discussion therapy has its merits but psychotropics are gash.

I tend to have more self control than others as I have quit smoking among other things without any medical or chemical intervention and realize that some feel it is impossible - even with chemical aides.

This is my opinion - I can do without psychotropics/sedatives - so im my world I dont see why anyone else cant.

I think we as society disable ourselves at times with this nonsense and pharmaceutical bio-chemical marketing.

I have seen like way more wrong diagnoses than accurate ones - and people lives completely ruined because a doctor loaded someone up with xanax instead of just helping to sort out the core issues.

So if you got something to say Ichy go for it - but if all you are going to do is type stuff like that "Jesus, abrader.  What the fuck." - I say go get buthumped by a giraffe. (and yes it is true about what they say about giraffes wit long necks)

[The Fake Shemp]

I don't think anyone would disagree that the psychiatric world might be quick to medicate and that there's a good percentage out there that could do better without them, but to throw out all psychotropics is pretty distinguished mentally-challenged.

TOM CRUISE distinguished mentally-challenged, THAT IS.

[abrader]

Throw them out - you can do it!

No its fine - I know some people need that ZING to make it thru the day.

P.S. Tom Cruise is wkyd - he just needs to get a gig at a new cult.

Maybe he should start a band or something.

[The Fake Shemp]

I don't take any medications, but I happen to know several people personally that legitimately have severe mental problems that do harm to themselves and others if taken off of their drugs.  Hell, even missing a dosage is enough to set them off.  Seeing is believing, I guess.

[TVC15]

Like I said, so the fuck what if some people need antidepressants to make it through the day?

And god knows that I can't keep my paranoia under control, and I'm as cheerful and in control as they come.  Am I just not MANNING UP enough?  I don't medicate, but it's definitely there, and it comes and goes in cycles.  Or what about my SEVERE INSOMNIA.  I can't MAN UP for that either. 

[abrader]

I thought iv been more than clear that I dont mind what anyone takes - nor do I look down on it...

and yes I take stuff to sleep (ambiens are mega fun), stay awake, for pain, to party etc.... but you gotta take on the serious stuff on your own - meet every situation head on ja?

[TVC15]

I thought iv been more than clear that I dont mind what anyone takes - nor do I look down on it...

Psychotropics are for girly men, pill poppers and drug addicts.

You must have quite a definition for "clear."

[abrader]

Oh and if you are being serious about the paranoia - I say you are in control since you recognize it for what it is - and think that you should pay attention to your gut feelings- no matter how wacky the seem - just dont act drastic.

I dont think you need meds for that - you are in touch.

Plus meds over long time period fuck up your kidneys and cause all kinds of other problems - its better if you can get by without.

[The Fake Shemp]

My opinion is once you start doing harm to yourselves and others, including family members, and if medication along with a strict therapeudic calendar can help you lead a healthy life - fuck MANNING UP!

What about women going through postpartum, like when Brooke Shields admitting to taking medicaton that helped her (and Tom Cruise cursed her for)?

There are lots of good reasons for folks to be on medication.  There are lots of bad ones too - "My child has ADD or some kind of fucking thing. Basically I don't like hyperactive kids and can't be responsible to parent, so drug him up!"

But saying that psychiatry kills and that medication kills, hijacking the Holocaust for their own agenda and all this crap is just delusional brainwashing.  L. Ron Hubbard taught his subjects that psychiatry was evil because when families rightly made the decision to try and get help to remove their loved ones from his clutches (and usually these folks are emotionally/mentally vunerable anyway), it served as a great defense mechanism.  Of course the psychiatrist thinks your depressed or brainwashed - he is evil and full of evil body thetans!  Viva La Xenu!

[abrader]

I thought iv been more than clear that I dont mind what anyone takes - nor do I look down on it...

Psychotropics are for girly men, pill poppers and drug addicts.

You must have quite a definition for "clear."

Thats a very snarky comment in this thread about Tom Cruise. I was kidding.

[TVC15]

Oh and if you are being serious about the paranoia - I say you are in control since you recognize it for what it is - and think that you should pay attention to your gut feelings- no matter how wacky the seem - just dont act drastic.

I dont think you need meds for that - you are in touch.

Plus meds over long time period fuck up your kidneys and cause all kinds of other problems - its better if you can get by without.

But this is where your YOU CAN DO IT logic reaches its end.  I do go day to day and I deal with my many, many neuroses, but they are still there.  They do not go away, no matter how much I want them to.  If I was ever in a position where my mental capabilities were weakened, I really would not be shocked if I went totally overboard.

[Van Cruncheon]

smh @ abrader

[AdmiralViscen]

Is abrader more like FoC or APF?

[The Fake Shemp]

I think the argument is dead once you reach the point when you realize that Scientology is a cult and L. Ron Hubbard only engrained this hatred against psychiatry to keep his subjects scared of the one medical field capable of removing them from that culture.

[Van Cruncheon]

foc, if foc ever went off his meds

[TVC15]

I'd have to say FoC, since he's reasonably close to my ignore list.  APF is my nicca, though. 

[The Fake Shemp]

I love APF.

[AdmiralViscen]

I'm cool with APF, but you have to admit he likes being contrary.

I'm starting to think it's more FoC too.

[TVC15]

I'm cool with APF, but you have to admit he likes being contrary.

I'm starting to think it's more FoC too.

I think I like APF because he can dish out a good one liner when he wants to.  Also, a lot of his more contrarian posts are facetious, so it is hilarious seeing internet dumbs go for them.  I don't believe he buys his own shit a significant portion of the time, which is more than what I think of the other side of the scale.

[abrader]

You guys become real cocksuckers when you disagree with someone.

None today thanks.

[AdmiralViscen]

I think we're all being pretty playful dude. I sure as hell don't hate FoC.

[abrader]

I can be king cock too so I dont mean "THIS IS WAR" or anything

Still what they say about the web arrogance of evilbore is pretty true and funny
/

[The Fake Shemp]

WHO IS "THEY"?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I bet it's the Jews!

[close]

[AdmiralViscen]

You're definitely a cock.

And OA is way more arrogant than this place. GAF is too, they just don't know it.

[abrader]

Oh and if you are being serious about the paranoia - I say you are in control since you recognize it for what it is - and think that you should pay attention to your gut feelings- no matter how wacky the seem - just dont act drastic.

I dont think you need meds for that - you are in touch.

Plus meds over long time period fuck up your kidneys and cause all kinds of other problems - its better if you can get by without.

But this is where your YOU CAN DO IT logic reaches its end.  I do go day to day and I deal with my many, many neuroses, but they are still there.  They do not go away, no matter how much I want them to.  If I was ever in a position where my mental capabilities were weakened, I really would not be shocked if I went totally overboard.

But thats just it - you dont have to get rid of them, just understand your tendencies and maybe even embrace them....

Thats my take anyway

[AdmiralViscen]

Oh and if you are being serious about the paranoia - I say you are in control since you recognize it for what it is - and think that you should pay attention to your gut feelings- no matter how wacky the seem - just dont act drastic.

I dont think you need meds for that - you are in touch.

Plus meds over long time period fuck up your kidneys and cause all kinds of other problems - its better if you can get by without.

But this is where your YOU CAN DO IT logic reaches its end.  I do go day to day and I deal with my many, many neuroses, but they are still there.  They do not go away, no matter how much I want them to.  If I was ever in a position where my mental capabilities were weakened, I really would not be shocked if I went totally overboard.

But thats just it - you dont have to get rid of them, just understand your tendencies and maybe even embrace them....

Thats my take anyway

His whole point was that some new negative influence on his already strained life could be the straw that breaks the camel's back and turn him towards damaging behavior. If that were to happen, would you tell him to toughen up? I'd tell him to seek help.

[The Fake Shemp]

Embrace clinical depression, TVC!

[AdmiralViscen]

[TVC15]

I can be king cock too so I dont mean "THIS IS WAR" or anything

Still what they say about the web arrogance of evilbore is pretty true and funny
/

Arrogance?  You're the one that came in tossing off "psychology blos" comments.

[abrader]

WHO IS "THEY"?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I bet it's the Jews!

[close]

Oh im sorry - its something that can be cited often....Someone who still posts at OA or something could likely find people saying it. I dont go around there anymore - just here and mupepe.

I dont think its that big of a deal - I think its more because some of you know each other in real life so it sometimes makes outsiders think - "This isnt a forum, its a website of these 4 guys who are friends who want to talk to the world like everything they like, or believe in is the law"

Its kind of like some random stranger getting stuck in a car with me and 3 of my friends I have known for 10+ years - that person isnt gonna get our jokes etc...

[abrader]

I can be king cock too so I dont mean "THIS IS WAR" or anything

Still what they say about the web arrogance of evilbore is pretty true and funny
/

Arrogance?  You're the one that came in tossing off "psychology blos" comments.

I was just sticking up for Tom Cruise!

[TVC15]

He was the weak link in Eyes Wide Shut.  His only good movie role was as a gay vampyr.

[AdmiralViscen]

FoC

[sky]

interesting video.
Keen observers will also note, the awards presentation appears to be set within one of the stages of Soul Calibur.

[The Fake Shemp]

interesting video.
Keen observers will also note, the awards presentation appears to be set within one of the stages of Soul Calibur.