Author Topic: What was your favorite non-FF Square game of the 32-bit generation? (Read 9442 times)

Ichirou · « **on:** January 19, 2008, 09:06:24 AM »

I'm in a Square mood lately, since I'm playing Final Fantasy Tactics.

demi · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2008, 09:25:36 AM »

EASY, Parasite Eve

Ichirou · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2008, 09:46:36 AM »

It's too bad the second one was such a disappointment.

I'd probably go with Vagrant Story, SaGa Frontier 2, or (gasp) Xenogears.

drohne · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2008, 11:45:14 AM »

there are only two potential responses here: 'einhander' and 'i'm a cigarillo'

and also i guess 'both of the above'

but EINHANDER

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2008, 12:05:55 PM »

For as much as we all talk shit about Square, there seems to be quite the number of threads about them here.

Ichirou · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2008, 12:17:56 PM »

I finished Final Fantasy Tactics so no more Square talk until I play the Star Ocean games on PSP.

demi · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2008, 02:08:47 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 19, 2008, 12:05:55 PM

For as much as we all talk shit about Square, there seems to be quite the number of threads about them here.

it's the same thing as black michael jackson and mummified michael jackson of today

difference

Mupepe · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2008, 02:19:38 PM »

oh wtf. i can't believe i'm the only one who voted vagrant story.

Vagrant Story

Star Ocean is coming to PSP?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2008, 02:22:26 PM »

vagrant story, followed by legend of mana.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2008, 02:22:48 PM »

also plz ban anyone who votes for xenogears

Beezy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2008, 02:38:46 PM »

I've only played through one of those. My vote goes to Brave Fencer Musashi.

Mupepe · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2008, 02:38:52 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on January 19, 2008, 02:22:48 PM

also plz ban anyone who votes for xenogears

Trent Dole · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2008, 03:39:43 PM »

EINHANDER!!!! Square trying something way outside of their RPG comfort zone and doing a kick ass job.

Enl · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2008, 04:13:24 PM »

I think for me it would be Legend of Mana with Bushido Blade as a close second. Even though I'm sure it doesn't hold up well today, I did have countless hours of fun playing this with friends. Probably one of the very few 3d fighters from that era which I liked. Legend of Mana , to me, was a very unique experiment. I loved how you got to define the world and how it affected the way you progressed through the game. The music was like ecstasy for the ears and art style of the game still holds up well today.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2008, 04:24:44 PM »

EINHANDER is the only correct answer, and this is coming from a huge Vagrant Story fan.

Parasite Eve (the first one only!) also still has merit, but it's not the absolute unequestioned best.

bluemax · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2008, 04:58:06 PM »

I never got to play Einhander

I always wanted too.

Himu · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2008, 05:26:21 PM »

soooo hard to choose. I went with Musashi but was torn between Einhander.

Vizzys · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2008, 05:39:34 PM »

EINHANDER was pretty awesome.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2008, 06:18:31 PM »

I'd rank them

1. Einhander
2. Vagrant Story
3. Legend of Mana
4. Brave Fencer Musashi
5. Chrono Cross
6. Xenogears
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7. SaGa Frontier 1
8. Parasite Eve
9. SaGa Frontier 2
10. Threads of Fate
other stuff I didn't play.

The ----- is the overall thumbs up/thumbs down dividing line. I still enjoyed SF1/2 because I love the SaGa series, but they're two of the worst ones and objectively not good games.

Tobal #1 and Ehrgeiz were also great, but as they were developed by Dream Factory I don't really count them as Square games.

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EINHANDER is the only correct answer, and this is coming from a huge Vagrant Story fan.

Parasite Eve (the first one only!) also still has merit

was PE2 really that bad? I'm kinda interested in playing it, since it was developed by the Einhander team.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2008, 06:20:53 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on January 19, 2008, 02:38:52 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on January 19, 2008, 02:22:48 PM
votes for xenogears

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2008, 11:06:45 PM »

Chrono Cross. The game had a great artistic direction, and the best OST of the 32-bit generation. It wasn't Chrono Trigger, but it was still a good sequel and a great RPG in its own right.

bork · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2008, 11:38:57 PM »

Sorry, but the only choice is Tobal 2, and it's not on the list. I count that as more Dream Factory than shitty Square anyway. imma vote Einheinder or Ehrgeiz or something.

Ichirou · « **Reply #22 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:12:27 AM »

US-RELEASED GAMES ONLY JAPAFAGS

BTW, lyte, I just saw your picture post over at the "figure models" thread on GAF. OMG

Candyflip · « **Reply #23 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:27:15 AM »

I think Legend of Mana was when my suspicions of Square's fetish for self-sabotage were first realized.

MCD · « **Reply #24 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:28:28 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 20, 2008, 12:12:27 AM

US-RELEASED GAMES ONLY JAPAFAGS

BTW, lyte, I just saw your picture post over at the "figure models" thread on GAF. OMG

i just saw it...

nice stuff compared to my one and only figure...spawn lol.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #25 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:30:08 AM »

Legend of Mana >> Secret of Mana

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #26 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:31:57 AM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on January 20, 2008, 12:30:08 AM

Legend of Mana >> Secret of Mana

omg you are a true connoisseur

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #27 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:33:37 AM »

don't get too excited, I also like Xenogears, Advent Children, and half of the Marti Noxon Buffy episodes

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #28 on:** January 20, 2008, 01:13:19 AM »

oh dear

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #29 on:** January 20, 2008, 01:22:37 AM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on January 20, 2008, 12:33:37 AM

and half of the Marti Noxon Buffy episodes

H

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #30 on:** January 20, 2008, 01:23:48 AM »

Brave Fencer Musashi poofaces.

bork · « **Reply #31 on:** January 20, 2008, 02:15:32 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 20, 2008, 12:12:27 AM

US-RELEASED GAMES ONLY JAPAFAGS

BTW, lyte, I just saw your picture post over at the "figure models" thread on GAF. OMG

Haha, my wife had three of her friends over the other night...one of them came over a while ago and took pictures of the figures on her phone. This time, she was like "OH WHAT DO YOU HAVE NEW?!" and took MORE pictures to send to her friends. "DON'T THESE LOOK REAL CLOSE UP???!"

Anyway, TOBAL 2. You don't have to be a JAPPAFAG to appreciate its awesomeness. This is a flawed poll. For shame.

TOBAL 2

Ichirou · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2008, 03:08:51 AM »

Omg dude at that Mai Shiranui figure. It really looks exactly like Kinu Nishimura artwork. I don't like the color of the outfit, tho - her uniform's supposed to be red but the figure's costume looks orange. Or maybe it's just the picture? Looks awesome otherwise.

bork · « **Reply #33 on:** January 20, 2008, 03:35:53 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 20, 2008, 03:08:51 AM

Omg dude at that Mai Shiranui figure. It really looks exactly like Kinu Nishimura artwork. I don't like the color of the outfit, tho - her uniform's supposed to be red but the figure's costume looks orange. Or maybe it's just the picture? Looks awesome otherwise.

No, it's orange. I thought maybe because that was the second production run, they changed the color, but all of them are like that. I got because of how close it was to the original art.

EDIT: Here's the Nishimura art. Her clothes look orange to me, guess that's why they went with it.

Ichirou · « **Reply #34 on:** January 20, 2008, 03:42:36 AM »

The original art was orange too? Weird!

Well, it's cute, though not as good as the Kinu Nishimura Cammy/Sakura/Chun-Li statues that came out a while back. Did you ever see those?

bork · « **Reply #35 on:** January 20, 2008, 03:44:47 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 20, 2008, 03:42:36 AM

The original art was orange too? Weird!

Well, it's cute, though not as good as the Kinu Nishimura Cammy/Sakura/Chun-Li statues that came out a while back. Did you ever see those?

NO IT'S BETTAR

I wanted the Chun-Li one but wasn't willing to pay the cash back then. The Sakura was good, but the Cammy one was kinda fucked up. She looked like was ready to give head or something.

Ichirou · « **Reply #36 on:** January 20, 2008, 04:08:03 AM »

Well, the Mai Shiranui one looks like she's ready for some kind of anal insertion procedure if ya know what I mean. I figured it was just Nishimura's style.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #37 on:** January 20, 2008, 04:34:32 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 20, 2008, 04:08:03 AM

Well, the Mai Shiranui one looks like she's ready for some kind of anal insertion procedure if ya know what I mean.

I don't know what you mean, please elaborate.

RevenantKioku · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2008, 04:35:28 AM »

I share the PE vote with demi? WTFBZ
Game is so good.

Ichirou · « **Reply #39 on:** January 20, 2008, 04:45:37 AM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 20, 2008, 04:34:32 AM

Quote from: Ichirou on January 20, 2008, 04:08:03 AM
Well, the Mai Shiranui one looks like she's ready for some kind of anal insertion procedure if ya know what I mean.

I don't know what you mean, please elaborate.

Anyway, enough off-topic chatter. Back to Square talk.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #40 on:** January 20, 2008, 06:37:57 AM »

Vagrant Story was really good

RevenantKioku · « **Reply #41 on:** January 20, 2008, 06:48:21 AM »

Quote from: Scenester on January 20, 2008, 06:37:57 AM

Vagrant Story was really good

This is mostly false.

Ichirou · « **Reply #42 on:** January 20, 2008, 07:55:04 AM »

Quote from: RevenantKioku on January 20, 2008, 06:48:21 AM

Quote from: Scenester on January 20, 2008, 06:37:57 AM
Vagrant Story was really good
This is mostly false.

Indeed. Vagrant Story wasn't just really good, it was excellent.

RevenantKioku · « **Reply #43 on:** January 20, 2008, 08:53:10 AM »

I need to get my hands on another copy to finally prove if I was wrong all those years ago or you all are a bunch of schmucks.

Ichirou · « **Reply #44 on:** January 20, 2008, 09:48:04 AM »

You got rid of your copy?

TVC15 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 20, 2008, 10:21:23 AM »

Brave Fencer Musashi, bitches. The only action game Square got right. VS was nice, but its mechanics were too much for the PS1. I am positive a sequel or remake of VS would by default be better today.

Powerslave · « **Reply #46 on:** January 20, 2008, 10:37:40 AM »

Quote from: lyte edge on January 20, 2008, 03:35:53 AM

Quote from: Ichirou on January 20, 2008, 03:08:51 AM
Omg dude at that Mai Shiranui figure. It really looks exactly like Kinu Nishimura artwork. I don't like the color of the outfit, tho - her uniform's supposed to be red but the figure's costume looks orange. Or maybe it's just the picture? Looks awesome otherwise.

No, it's orange. I thought maybe because that was the second production run, they changed the color, but all of them are like that. I got because of how close it was to the original art.

EDIT: Here's the Nishimura art. Her clothes look orange to me, guess that's why they went with it.
(Image removed from quote.)

wasnt there a statue of this in the geek gaf figure models thread? Soooo hot

bork · « **Reply #47 on:** January 20, 2008, 11:28:40 AM »

Quote from: Powerslave on January 20, 2008, 10:37:40 AM

wasnt there a statue of this in the geek gaf figure models thread? Soooo hot

Woah Powerslave, you might need some readin' glasses! That's what we were talking about...I bought that figure last month.

Powerslave · « **Reply #48 on:** January 20, 2008, 11:41:18 AM »

heh I didn't read this thread, just saw the picture and fapped away

tiesto · « **Reply #49 on:** January 20, 2008, 11:56:01 AM »

I need to play Vagrant Story through... how long is it? Think I can squeeze it in before Lost Odyssey drops?

bork · « **Reply #50 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:02:39 PM »

Quote from: Powerslave on January 20, 2008, 11:41:18 AM

heh I didn't read this thread, just saw the picture and fapped away

Check out that figure thread again. I posted new pics of PLASTIC PERVERSION 4 U.

There's an older thread on GAF from two years ago about this same shit...I forgot Ichirou has a bunch of these toys, too.

Search for "One Coin Figures."

PhoenixWright · « **Reply #51 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:19:58 PM »

SaGa Frontier. Not even a contest.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #52 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:37:34 PM »

Vagrant Story. Really isn't even close, imo. Haven't played Front Mission though.

RevenantKioku · « **Reply #53 on:** January 20, 2008, 07:56:26 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 20, 2008, 09:48:04 AM

You got rid of your copy?

Nah, but I think it's back in the states and beyond that vague description... *shrug*
I recall buying it and Valkyrie Profile on the same day. I gave both of them a shot to see what I was playing next, obviously VP won out. After finishing VP I kept trying to go back to VS but it was just a huge pile of mediocre. The innovative "keep altering your weapon until your 30-hit combo does more than 1 point of damage" exhilarating as it was, just wasn't enough.

Ichirou · « **Reply #54 on:** January 20, 2008, 11:22:01 PM »

Quote from: lyte edge on January 20, 2008, 12:02:39 PM

Quote from: Powerslave on January 20, 2008, 11:41:18 AM
heh I didn't read this thread, just saw the picture and fapped away

Check out that figure thread again. I posted new pics of PLASTIC PERVERSION 4 U.

There's an older thread on GAF from two years ago about this same shit...I forgot Ichirou has a bunch of these toys, too. Search for "One Coin Figures."

Yep. Mine are mostly robots, tho.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #55 on:** January 21, 2008, 12:17:14 AM »

Front Mission 3 - My favorite. Fuck you haters. The game was awesome. The complaints that the game was dumbed down and no challenge didn't really matter to me since I had fun the entire way from setting up the mechs to finding new ways to destroy the enemy. I've played the game through three times.

Other Square games I done played:

Xenogears - Got it immediately when it hit GH and wasn't really impressed. It was a good game but not worth the huge hype it got before it went for $19 instead of $60-70 on eBay.

Brave Fencer Musashi - Didn't like this one at all.

Chrono Cross - This game had its moments but once I beat it, I had no urge to play through it again. A few years later, I can barely remember anything about the game.

Ichirou · « **Reply #56 on:** January 21, 2008, 12:18:27 AM »

Chrono Cross is one of the worst games I've ever played.

RevenantKioku · « **Reply #57 on:** January 21, 2008, 12:29:27 AM »

You, sir, have not played enough games. I've gotten to a point where The Bouncer is downright acceptable.
...
I want to go back.

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #58 on:** January 21, 2008, 01:06:22 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 21, 2008, 12:18:27 AM

Chrono Cross is one of the worst games I've ever played.

It really depends on how you approached the game. Are you a big Chrono Trigger fan? What didn't you like about the game?

Ichirou · « **Reply #59 on:** January 21, 2008, 02:18:34 AM »

Quote from: CurseoftheGods on January 21, 2008, 01:06:22 AM

Quote from: Ichirou on January 21, 2008, 12:18:27 AM
Chrono Cross is one of the worst games I've ever played.

It really depends on how you approached the game. Are you a big Chrono Trigger fan? What didn't you like about the game?

I'm a huge Chrono Trigger fan. CC is just a waste. I hated the battle system, the story was boring, I hated the alternate dimension thing (with only two dimensions and them being almost exactly alike), I hated the tons of worthless characters (this is a Chrono game, not a Suikoden game...plus, the characters are fugly), the fact that they rape the cast from the first game without a second thought, the fact that the game takes place in the same world as the first game but they don't let you explore any of the locations from the first game...and that's just scratching the surface. The only thing the game's got going for it is pretty graphics and the fact that enemies are visible onscreen so you can avoid 'em.

It's shit.

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Sorry, Japafags, US-released games only on this list. Now, pick your fave of the 32-bit generation...Y'know, back when Square still tried once in a while (include an explanation as to why you chose what you chose, plz kthx):

Author Topic: What was your favorite non-FF Square game of the 32-bit generation? (Read 9442 times)