Author Topic: Difficult racial issues raised by Curtis (Read 3863 times)

Howard Alan Treesong · « **on:** January 24, 2008, 06:21:46 PM »

I read the last line as "just like MLK's a little bit white" four times before I saw it was actually "milk." I can't imagine this was accidental, given the timing and reference to the Rvnd. earlier in the strip.

Is MLK considered "white" by the black community?

Rman · « **Reply #1 on:** January 24, 2008, 06:33:42 PM »

I'm not black, but I grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood, and what I noticed was that MLK was considered soft. Many distinguished black fellows in my 'hood preferred Malcolm X and his ideals of separation and advancing those ideals by ''any means necessary'' as much more appealing than "I have a dream".

Also there is a huge stigma amongst some the inner city distinguished black fellows that equates eloquence, oratory ability, academic prowess, which MLK had, as being white.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #2 on:** January 24, 2008, 06:39:24 PM »

Come on, haven't you guys read Himuro's posts?

Rman · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2008, 06:40:11 PM »

I honestly thought he was joking.

Himu · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2008, 06:42:39 PM »

At the end of the day, Malcolm denied separation. He, still, however, held the belief that blacks should gain their rights by any means necessary, and not that lame ass marching shit.

Yes MLK is considered soft. Back in the 60's you had blacks being lynched and had fire hoses on them and the guy uses the turn the other cheek philosophy. That's not going to get you anywhere.

Establishing laws wouldn't change the racist mindset, Malcolm realized this.

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Also there is a huge stigma amongst some the inner city distinguished black fellows that equates eloquence, oratory ability, academic prowess, which MLK had, as being white.

Irrelevant. Malcolm is looked up to and he has all of that and more.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2008, 06:46:15 PM »

Rman · « **Reply #6 on:** January 24, 2008, 06:48:37 PM »

Did you read his Autobiography? Fantastic stuff.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #7 on:** January 24, 2008, 06:54:04 PM »

I think this Curtis could be the most awesome "is it or isn't it" culture war since

Himu · « **Reply #8 on:** January 24, 2008, 06:58:00 PM »

Quote from: Rman on January 24, 2008, 06:48:37 PM

Did you read his Autobiography? Fantastic stuff.

Yes!

It's not that we don't respect MLK; we do. It's just annoying how MLK really didn't speak for us as a people and yet he's all you ever hear about when someone who brings up the civil rights era. A lot of us had to learn about the other greats by ourselves, which is ridiculous.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #9 on:** January 24, 2008, 06:58:55 PM »

it's true, I had never heard of Malcom X until Himumu started talking about him here on EB

Mupepe · « **Reply #10 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:23:44 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 24, 2008, 06:58:55 PM

it's true, I had never heard of Malcom X until Himumu started talking about him here on EB

QFT

And MLK really didn't have any effect. That pussy bullshit got them nowhere. What the fuck was he thinking? Trying to change white people's mindset about blacks being violent animals by advocating peace. smh

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #11 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:31:46 PM »

bobobobobo it's better to SCARE than to SUBVERT

PRIDE AND MASCULINITY

Mupepe · « **Reply #12 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:35:11 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on January 24, 2008, 07:31:46 PM

bobobobobo it's better to SCARE than to SUBVERT

PRIDE AND MASCULINITY

MLK was the MJJ of the 60's.

Rman · « **Reply #13 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:37:32 PM »

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MLK was the MJJ of the 60's.

Michael Jeffrey Jordan???

Mupepe · « **Reply #14 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:38:46 PM »

Michael J?

?? Jackson

Mupepe · « **Reply #15 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:44:12 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 24, 2008, 07:41:06 PM

I see Michael Jordan as a uniter, so i'm going with that.

That's what the white man wants you to think about MLK

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #16 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:05:33 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 24, 2008, 07:41:06 PM

I see Michael Jordan as a uniter, so i'm going with that.

Barkley Shut Up and Jam Gaiden suggests that Jordan will betray his race and join up with the white Man as soon as the B-Ball Control Department is established in the post-cyberpocalyptic future of 2041. So the analogy seems sound.

Eric P · « **Reply #17 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:27:01 PM »

Quote from: Rman on January 24, 2008, 06:33:42 PM

Also there is a huge stigma amongst some the inner city distinguished black fellows that equates eloquence, oratory ability, academic prowess, which MLK had, as being white.

mlk, cracka azz cracka

Eric P · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:28:38 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 24, 2008, 06:54:04 PM

I think this Curtis could be the most awesome "is it or isn't it" culture war since

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i seriously don't see this as anymore than a poop joke

i know that people talk about the crescent moon and such, but jeez, i just don't see it

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:43:38 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 24, 2008, 08:07:52 PM

Where does Bill Laimbeer fit into all of this?

Bill Laimbeer became commissioner of his NO RULES basketball league in 2030, so I'd imagine that he was one of the first against the wall in the Great B-Ball Purge of 2041.

In fact, I'd imagine that Shut Up and Jam Gaiden treats BLCB as canon, and that Laimbeer's violent nature and desire to push the limits of what was acceptable in professional sports was was one of the primary factors leading up to Barkley's infamous Chaos Dunk and B-Ballnacht.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:54:41 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 24, 2008, 08:05:33 PM

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 24, 2008, 07:41:06 PM
I see Michael Jordan as a uniter, so i'm going with that.

Barkley Shut Up and Jam Gaiden suggests that Jordan will betray his race and join up with the white Man as soon as the B-Ball Control Department is established in the post-cyberpocalyptic future of 2041. So the analogy seems sound.

Best post ever

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2008, 10:01:01 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 24, 2008, 06:58:55 PM

it's true, I had never heard of Malcom X until Himumu started talking about him here on EB

Malcom X was real!? Woah, I thought he was just a character in a movie, like Gandhi or JFK.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #22 on:** January 24, 2008, 10:02:39 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on January 24, 2008, 08:28:38 PM

i seriously don't see this as anymore than a poop joke

the interstital sound effect is odd and out-of-character enough that I'm willing to believe the ||SLAM interpretation

Ichirou · « **Reply #23 on:** January 24, 2008, 10:43:22 PM »

I agree with Patel, it doesn't really work as a joke. The Islam interpretation is the only one that actually makes the comic make any sort of sense.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #24 on:** January 24, 2008, 11:05:27 PM »

The problem is that the Islam interpretation doesn't really make sense or have any punchline either, but I guess still the most likely.

Ichirou · « **Reply #25 on:** January 24, 2008, 11:07:21 PM »

It's just a commentary to the effect of "Islam sucks! I'm a Christian fundie!"

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #26 on:** January 24, 2008, 11:09:48 PM »

Pimp > Cheating husband.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #27 on:** January 24, 2008, 11:39:05 PM »

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It's just a commentary to the effect of "Islam sucks! I'm a Christian fundie!"

How much money does he make off these strips, and how can I get a job creating oblique yet banal expressions of my generic identity?

TVC15 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 24, 2008, 11:45:19 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on January 24, 2008, 11:39:05 PM

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It's just a commentary to the effect of "Islam sucks! I'm a Christian fundie!"

How much money does he make off these strips, and how can I get a job creating oblique yet banal expressions of my generic identity?

As has to be noted every time this comes up, this isn't the ONLY time Hart has made pointless religious commentary. He has a HISTORY of stupid, senseless religious shit. See:

Like, wha? Why would you even make this comic? I'm not even sure what his fucking point is. I'll just go with the safe bet: Judaism sucks.

Eric P · « **Reply #29 on:** January 24, 2008, 11:48:57 PM »

Quote from: Ichi on January 24, 2008, 10:43:22 PM

I agree with Patel, it doesn't really work as a joke. The Islam interpretation is the only one that actually makes the comic make any sort of sense.

IT IS A MODERN MAINSTREAM NEWSPAPER COMIC

it doesn't have to work as a joke

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How much money does he make off these strips, and how can I get a job creating oblique yet banal expressions of my generic identity?

well he's dead, so not much

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 25, 2008, 01:40:33 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on January 24, 2008, 07:31:46 PM

bobobobobo it's better to SCARE than to SUBVERT

PRIDE AND MASCULINITY

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #31 on:** January 25, 2008, 04:15:53 PM »

I just wanted to bump this thread because Patel's posts are fucking incredible.

INTUNEevolution · « **Reply #32 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:04:02 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on January 24, 2008, 08:28:38 PM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 24, 2008, 06:54:04 PM
I think this Curtis could be the most awesome "is it or isn't it" culture war since

i seriously don't see this as anymore than a poop joke

i know that people talk about the crescent moon and such, but jeez, i just don't see it

What's the crescent moon symbolize? Islam or something?

Oblivion · « **Reply #33 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:40:58 PM »

Why is Himuro speaking on behalf of the African American community?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #34 on:** January 25, 2008, 05:50:12 PM »

He brings up a good point. There was a lot of discussion last weekend over whether MLK's legacy had be simplified to one sentence - I have a dream. MLK was definitely a great civil rights leader, but he wasn't the only one, and he had more to say than the dream speech.

INTUNEevolution · « **Reply #35 on:** January 25, 2008, 08:19:06 PM »

The fact that he has a sentence is enough in itself. A lot of times, leaders wink out of existence, regardless of catchy one-liners. People are too dumb to remember more than one thing about a person at a time :/

Eric P · « **Reply #36 on:** January 25, 2008, 08:28:52 PM »

Quote from: INTUNEevolution on January 25, 2008, 05:04:02 PM

Quote from: Eric P on January 24, 2008, 08:28:38 PM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 24, 2008, 06:54:04 PM
I think this Curtis could be the most awesome "is it or isn't it" culture war since

i seriously don't see this as anymore than a poop joke

i know that people talk about the crescent moon and such, but jeez, i just don't see it

What's the crescent moon symbolize? Islam or something?

either that or south carolina

Mandark · « **Reply #37 on:** January 25, 2008, 11:58:09 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on January 24, 2008, 11:05:27 PM

The problem is that the Islam interpretation doesn't really make sense or have any punchline either, but I guess still the most likely.

I think you just described Johnny Hart's modus operandi.

INTUNEevolution · « **Reply #38 on:** January 26, 2008, 12:07:42 AM »

Lol, comic strip writers lose their funny after a while.

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Author Topic: Difficult racial issues raised by Curtis (Read 3863 times)