Author Topic: Quantum of Solace...this title doesn't work for a Bond movie. (Read 4709 times)

Ichirou · « **on:** January 28, 2008, 12:51:04 AM »

The average moviegoer is too dumb to know what Quantum means outside of Quantum Leap. Quantum of Solace sounds like the type of Indie fare Gay Boy would masturbate over, featuring Ellen Page as a genius teenager named Solace who decides to enter university and study quantum physics, leaving her jock boyfriend behind to work at a grocery store when he fails to get a sports scholarship. The emotional struggle that ensues between her new, smart friends and her old high school "normal" pals would be both hilarious and heartrending.

Shins · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2008, 12:53:33 AM »

Daniel Craig overrides.

Ichirou · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2008, 12:54:08 AM »

I have high expectations for the movie but the title is about as catchy as Attack of the Clones.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2008, 12:55:33 AM »

Yea, that shit is lame

Shins · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2008, 12:57:41 AM »

Quote from: Ichi on January 28, 2008, 12:54:08 AM

I have high expectations for the movie but the title is about as catchy as Attack of the Clones.

*shrug* There's a lot of shitty titles for good things. Its horribly regular to the point where I don't have enough fury to divvy up anymore.

Ichirou · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2008, 01:01:48 AM »

They took it from a short story by Ian Fleming, yet the movie has nothing to do with the short story. Pretty dumb. :/

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #6 on:** January 28, 2008, 01:07:26 AM »

Bad title.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2008, 01:11:47 AM »

Final Fantasy XIII: Quantum of Solace

Ichirou · « **Reply #8 on:** January 28, 2008, 01:16:34 AM »

Terminator 4: Quantum of Solace

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #9 on:** January 28, 2008, 01:21:31 AM »

"Superman, if you don't turn over the Quantum of Solace to I, Lex Luthor, within the next four hours, you'll never see your precious Lois Lane again! BWHAHAHA!!!! And I've also got Jimmy, if that does anything for you."

Ichirou · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2008, 01:23:20 AM »

Hm, what if Quantum of Solace IS some sort of Doomsday Device in the new Bond movie? Do you guys remember the Goldeneye satellite in Goldeneye (which was named after Ian Fleming's house, lulz)?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #11 on:** January 28, 2008, 01:26:20 AM »

Goldeneye kind of sounds like Goldfinger, which has already been established as an appropriate Bond title.

Quantum of Solace kind of sounds like something that would give your Paladin +3 to Charisma.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #12 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:34:21 AM »

As a pretty hardcore Bond fan, I must say that the title is shit.

TVC15 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:41:13 AM »

I could be cool with the title. . . but the movie will have to be significantly more scifi-y than most Bond titles. Moonraker 2? I hope so.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:42:32 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 28, 2008, 02:41:13 AM

I could be cool with the title. . . but the movie will have to be significantly more scifi-y than most Bond titles. Moonraker 2? I hope so.

Sci-fi = Die Another Day

Meaning NO FUCK THAT SHIT NO.

TVC15 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:45:26 AM »

I have Casino Royale on BD right here. Should I watch it?

Should be noted that I LOVVVVVVVE the original, so my phasers are set to HATE.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:49:11 AM »

Watch it. It's pretty much the best Bond movie ever.

TVC15 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:50:03 AM »

Brosnan pretty much turned me off of Bond. Outside of Goldeneye, he really was the worst Bond, and tragically, it wasn't even his fault.

Ichirou · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:55:18 AM »

Best Bonds:

1. Timothy Dalton 9.75/10
2. Sean Connery 9.74/10
3. Daniel Craig 9.73/10
4. George Lazenby 7/10
5. Woody Allen 4.5/10
6. Pierce Brosnan 2.53/10
7. Roger Moore 1.5/10

TVC15 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:11:37 AM »

Timothy Dalton DOES get too much hate. As a matter of fact, I would say Pierce Brosnan is a good counterpoint to him.

Brosnan: Definitely good as the Bond character. Arguably as close to the stereotypical Bond as ANYONE else. Unfortunately, all of his movies, Goldeneye aside, are shit because of the total and complete Hollywoodization of the franchise, with distinguished mentally-challenged plots and terrible writing.

Dalton: Probably the worst at playing Bond as a character, but he ranks higher in my ranking because despite starring in some tepid Bond movies, they weren't AS TERRIBLE as the Brosnan movies.

Dalton (mediocre movies, terrible bond) > Brosnan (terrible movies, great bond)

Ichirou · « **Reply #20 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:24:24 AM »

I liked the way Dalton portrayed Bond. If you hated that grittier portrayal, you're not going to like Casino Royale since Craig is very much a spiritual succesor to Dalton (even moreso than Connery), while I thought Brosnan was a Bond in the Roger Moore tradition.

TVC15 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:28:52 AM »

Shit, this movie looks SO FUCKING TIGHT in black and white. I wish it stayed this way. They NAIL the shadows.

Ichirou · « **Reply #22 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:31:14 AM »

Fuck the haters, I love the Chris Cornell theme song and the opening Bond animation in this one is pure sex.

TVC15 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:34:50 AM »

The transfer on this is nuts, too.

Argh, I take back what I said about wishing this were all black and white. The photography in this is pretty damned great.

EvilBoris · « **Reply #24 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:38:35 AM »

I like the Cornell theme only when it's orchestrated.

Ichirou · « **Reply #25 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:38:46 AM »

It's been overhyped by Solo and myself, but I honestly do think this is one of the best Bond films ever.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #26 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:44:28 AM »

Casino Royale rocks and I also love the Cornell song (and credits). I have it on my Zune.

Good flick, but great Bond film.

TVC15 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:46:23 AM »

Quote from: Ichi on January 28, 2008, 03:38:46 AM

It's been overhyped by Solo and myself, but I honestly do think this is one of the best Bond films ever.

At this point, I think it is really impossible to state a "best bond film." So many decades. I would only take it seriously if you were saying "best Bond of [so-and-so] decade."

Ichirou · « **Reply #28 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:48:01 AM »

Well, I don't have as high an opinion of the Bond films as Solo does (I think, I'm not sure what he thinks other than being a huge fan). I think half of them are out-and-out dreck. I'll just say it's the best Bond film since The Living Daylights and leave it at that.

TVC15 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 28, 2008, 04:11:27 AM »

Quote from: Ichi on January 28, 2008, 03:48:01 AM

Well, I don't have as high an opinion of the Bond films as Solo does (I think, I'm not sure what he thinks other than being a huge fan). I think half of them are out-and-out dreck. I'll just say it's the best Bond film since The Living Daylights and leave it at that.

I wouldn't say I am a super fan. I can view these films very objectively, but my mom LOVED them, so I grew up seeing them repeatedly.

But so far, this is REALLY well done, in all respects.

The one huge minus is that the series is still a whore to its financial masters. We know what brand of car Bond drives. We know who makes his cell phone. As many sponsors as a football game. I don't need BLATANT advertisements in my movies.

T-Short · « **Reply #30 on:** January 28, 2008, 04:17:08 AM »

Can't wait for TVC to hit the BEACH SCENE

TVC15 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 28, 2008, 04:17:36 AM »

Are there penises?

T-Short · « **Reply #32 on:** January 28, 2008, 04:22:58 AM »

I hate to disappoint you, but no

TVC15 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 28, 2008, 04:27:50 AM »

Ehhhh, this movie is requiring some rather large leaps of logic. Bond's shenanigans int he parking lot in the bahamas breaks suspension of disbelief. Are we supposed to believe he got so lucky as to fall into the web of someone important to his cause? By the numbers, that is doubtful.

Ichirou · « **Reply #34 on:** January 28, 2008, 05:49:07 AM »

I always assumed he'd targeted that guy from the start because he knew he was involved in the case, maybe from MI6 files or something. Sorry, it's been like a year and a half since I saw it.

Suspension of disbelief is a pre-requisite for watching Bond movies, even one that hews closer to "realism" (lol) like this one does.

Gay Boy · « **Reply #35 on:** January 28, 2008, 10:28:52 AM »

I would totally go to that movie Ichi described

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #36 on:** January 28, 2008, 10:37:45 AM »

Bourne>Bond

Gay Boy · « **Reply #37 on:** January 28, 2008, 10:55:42 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2008, 10:37:45 AM

Bourne>Bond

bourne is amazing but it is over, time to move on!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #38 on:** January 28, 2008, 11:00:08 AM »

Bond should have been over 40 years ago

Eric P · « **Reply #39 on:** January 28, 2008, 11:08:10 AM »

i agree

bond is very time specific

the world moved on

bud · « **Reply #40 on:** January 28, 2008, 11:12:58 AM »

i dunno, i kinda like it. it takes some time getting used to, but it sounds so... sophisticated. probably because i don't know what it means, lol.

Gay Boy · « **Reply #41 on:** January 28, 2008, 12:44:37 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on January 28, 2008, 11:08:10 AM

i agree

bond is very time specific

the world moved on

The world moved on yet Casino Royale was the biggest Bond movie ever boxoffice wise...? Also in total Casino Royale out-grossed all 3 Bourne movies. I don't see how the world moved on.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #42 on:** January 28, 2008, 12:47:37 PM »

...

Clearly you didn't understand his post, or mine.

Gay Boy · « **Reply #43 on:** January 28, 2008, 12:48:42 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2008, 12:47:37 PM

...

Clearly you didn't understand his post, or mine.

I wasnt referring to you calling bourne better. He said the world moved on, which is a factual statement not your opinion on Bourne. And technically people haven't moved on from Bond when it is vastly the most popular action franchise still.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #44 on:** January 28, 2008, 12:52:45 PM »

You still don't get it. The world moving on has nothing to do with how much the movie grossed...

Eric P · « **Reply #45 on:** January 28, 2008, 12:57:18 PM »

i just think that the political/social climate is the same for bond

i loved casino royale, but disliked a lot of what they did to make it work

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #46 on:** January 28, 2008, 01:48:39 PM »

I agree, Bond worked best in the Cold War era. The Soviets and Comintern clones made the Bond films.

Casino Royale is the first non Cold War Bond film done well (Goldeneye's plot is based on the actions performed by the characters in the Cold War) but I agree with Eric P, a lot had to be changed.

TVC15 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:16:31 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on January 28, 2008, 12:57:18 PM

i just think that the political/social climate is the same for bond

i loved casino royale, but disliked a lot of what they did to make it work

I think I am somewhat creatively opposed to the whole remolding a stock character for modern cinema every 5 years or so. Casino Royale is definitely a fun little movie, but it seems, I dunno, creatively dishonest to call this Bond when it only bears that name, really, because of the guaranteed dollar signs it entails.

But yes, good movie.

Eric P · « **Reply #48 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:29:50 PM »

i'd love to see a retro bond.

set in the 50s or 60s

but THAT will probably never happen

TVC15 · « **Reply #49 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:35:23 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on January 28, 2008, 02:29:50 PM

i'd love to see a retro bond.

set in the 50s or 60s

but THAT will probably never happen

The Aviator really got my boner going for 20th century period pieces. It's a pity that audiences are too distinguished mentally-challenged to support that sort of thing

Eric P · « **Reply #50 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:39:16 PM »

"omg just log into facebook and see what the villian's updates say! that's how i found out my boyfriend was cheating on me!"

Bloodwake · « **Reply #51 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:30:10 PM »

Casino Royale is just as good as the Bourne films IMO. I don't have a preference because Ultimatum kicked my ass pretty well.

Then again, I'm a Bond fanboy. I even vaguely like every film in a way except for Die Another Day. Even Octopussy.

But yeah, Casino Royale is in my top three Bond films ever, and Daniel Craig could end up being the best Bond.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #52 on:** January 28, 2008, 03:43:30 PM »

I'm the exact opposite Bloodwake: an unapologetic Bond hater. while I like Casino Royale it's still the same movie people have been watching for the last 40 years.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #53 on:** January 28, 2008, 06:58:10 PM »

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I think I am somewhat creatively opposed to the whole remolding a stock character for modern cinema every 5 years or so. Casino Royale is definitely a fun little movie, but it seems, I dunno, creatively dishonest to call this Bond when it only bears that name, really, because of the guaranteed dollar signs it entails.

not me, in fact I think all long-running film series should be handled like Final Fantasy games. we could have a pseudo-medieval Bond, a sci-fi Bond, a steampunk Bond, a super-deformed Bond etc.

Shins · « **Reply #54 on:** January 28, 2008, 07:01:48 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on January 28, 2008, 06:58:10 PM

a steampunk Bond

!

TVC15 · « **Reply #55 on:** January 28, 2008, 07:07:45 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on January 28, 2008, 06:58:10 PM

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I think I am somewhat creatively opposed to the whole remolding a stock character for modern cinema every 5 years or so. Casino Royale is definitely a fun little movie, but it seems, I dunno, creatively dishonest to call this Bond when it only bears that name, really, because of the guaranteed dollar signs it entails.

not me, in fact I think all long-running film series should be handled like Final Fantasy games. we could have a pseudo-medieval Bond, a sci-fi Bond, a steampunk Bond, a super-deformed Bond etc.

It's like that Borges story with the giant impossibly detailed map that eventually becomes so detailed that it is an effective simulacrum "blanket" covering the land it details. If followed to its absurd end, by your logic, every movie ever can retroactively considered a James Bond movie.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #56 on:** January 28, 2008, 07:09:12 PM »

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If followed to its absurd end, by your logic, every movie ever can retroactively considered a James Bond movie.

Only if you want it to be!

TVC15 · « **Reply #57 on:** January 28, 2008, 07:11:37 PM »

Right now I am watching Spartacus. Or Bondacus. Whichever you prefer.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #58 on:** January 28, 2008, 07:14:34 PM »

I like clams and mussels

Eric P · « **Reply #59 on:** January 28, 2008, 07:20:52 PM »

i am watcing the boxer from the temple

or, the Bond from the Temple

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Author Topic: Quantum of Solace...this title doesn't work for a Bond movie. (Read 4709 times)