Author Topic: Is Watchmen worth it? (Read 1753 times)

Eduardo24 · « **on:** February 02, 2008, 03:51:59 PM »

I am not much of a comic book fan, but I really want to know what's the deal with this book. I have read the league of extraordinary gentlemen (written by the same guy), but I was kinda dissapointed. Vol 1 was decent, I guess, but the second Vol. was horrible.

So yeah, is Watchmen good or not?

Himu · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2008, 03:54:16 PM »

Um.

The Watchmen is perhaps the best graphic novel ever. Even Time recognizes this.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2008, 03:55:02 PM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #3 on:** February 02, 2008, 04:37:05 PM »

WTF, yes! It's only like $15 for the TPB and it's fuckawesome.

I have the Absolute Edition, though.

BobbyRobby · « **Reply #4 on:** February 02, 2008, 04:43:40 PM »

It's very good. I've gotten people who've never read comic books to read it, and they loved it.

If you don't like comics, what's with the Psylocke avatar?

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #5 on:** February 02, 2008, 08:56:21 PM »

Its awesome Rorschach owns your face

bud · « **Reply #6 on:** February 02, 2008, 09:23:40 PM »

isn't david hayter writing the screenplay for the movie?

T234 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:00:33 PM »

I'm totally buying this when I get paid.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8 on:** February 02, 2008, 10:05:44 PM »

I liked it but the last 1/4 of the story was kinda boring.

Raban · « **Reply #9 on:** February 02, 2008, 11:55:17 PM »

It's pretty tasty, but very different than other comics. It so closely flirts with nonfiction that the social commentary comes on pretty thick in some parts, but otherwise a must-have for any fan of graphic novels.

T234 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 02, 2008, 11:57:39 PM »

Welcome to Evilbore.

Raban · « **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2008, 12:00:16 AM »

Quote from: T234 on February 02, 2008, 11:57:39 PM

Welcome to Evilbore.

Thanks.

Eric P · « **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2008, 01:29:34 AM »

i JUST got the absolute edition to this last week

it's worth it

and you didn't like the second League? That's a shame. I think I liked it even more than the first, but then I really like the whole invasion story and the meshing of all the different Mars mythos into one whole.

I love victorian sci-fi so that was like pure sex to me

Raban · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:12:09 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on February 03, 2008, 01:29:34 AM

i JUST got the absolute edition to this last week

it's worth it

and you didn't like the second League? That's a shame. I think I liked it even more than the first, but then I really like the whole invasion story and the meshing of all the different Mars mythos into one whole.

I love victorian sci-fi so that was like pure sex to me

What's in the Absolute Edition that the normal paperback doesn't have? I heard it was recolored, anything outside of that? Is the printing quality top notch or what?

Eric P · « **Reply #14 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:14:54 AM »

it's recolored, the paper is better, it's larger so you can get more of the detail in the artwork, there's an essay in the back by moore along with script pages, original layouts and each major character gets a two page spread where you see the evolution of the character design.

i love the absolute editions. i have watchmen, new frontier and the first two sandman volumes. i want to get the League ones, but they're generally ass expensive

Raban · « **Reply #15 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:17:07 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on February 03, 2008, 02:14:54 AM

it's recolored, the paper is better, it's larger so you can get more of the detail in the artwork, there's an essay in the back by moore along with script pages, original layouts and each major character gets a two page spread where you see the evolution of the character design.

i love the absolute editions. i have watchmen, new frontier and the first two sandman volumes. i want to get the League ones, but they're generally ass expensive

See I'm not a real fan of Moore. I picked up Watchmen because it contains alot of inspiring writing and presentation techniques, but imo Moore's stories bore the shit out of me. V for Vendetta was painful, and I could get through the League books. I dunno. Moore is like the Tolkien of comic books. I try so hard to love him but it's just not for me at all.

EDIT: Forgot to ask of your description, do you mean character development like drawings and sketches? I love to look at artist's sketches and early designs.

Eric P · « **Reply #16 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:21:33 AM »

i can totally get that. i have a friend who hates moore totally, but i love it, always have.

one of my favorite sequences in a comic is the travelogue of masonic memorials in From Hell. just page upon page upon page upon page of where these monuments stand and what the psychogeograpic significance is to their location locally and when taken as a whole.

if you don't really like moore and want to see what the fuss is about, you really can't go wrong with Alan Moore's Tales of the DC Universe, if mostly for Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow.

Raban · « **Reply #17 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:24:01 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on February 03, 2008, 02:21:33 AM

i can totally get that. i have a friend who hates moore totally, but i love it, always have.

one of my favorite sequences in a comic is the travelogue of masonic memorials in From Hell. just page upon page upon page upon page of where these monuments stand and what the psychogeograpic significance is to their location locally and when taken as a whole.

if you don't really like moore and want to see what the fuss is about, you really can't go wrong with Alan Moore's Tales of the DC Universe, if mostly for Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow.

Well if you want a good idea of the kind of comics I like, look no further than anything and everything Mike Mignola has ever touched. Not only is his art solid fried gold, but Hellboy is one of the coolest characters ever invented. And even outside of him, the one-shot Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser is a mind-blowing tale, and is making me consider taking a look at some Fritz Leiber books because of how comical the characters are.

Eric P · « **Reply #18 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:31:08 AM »

Fritz Leiber is really awesome and a publishing company just recently put the first two books out of that series again. Leiber is a very diverse and prolific writer. If you like what you read of those books, check out Our Lady of Darkness, Conjure Wife and his short stories. He had done some amazing things in the horror genre updating tropes from an almost edwardian sensibility and bringing them to the modern setting (see especially The Smoke Ghost)

Raban · « **Reply #19 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:32:36 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on February 03, 2008, 02:31:08 AM

Fritz Leiber is really awesome and a publishing company just recently put the first two books out of that series again. Leiber is a very diverse and prolific writer. If you like what you read of those books, check out Our Lady of Darkness, Conjure Wife and his short stories. He had done some amazing things in the horror genre updating tropes from an almost edwardian sensibility and bringing them to the modern setting (see especially The Smoke Ghost)

Do all of his stories star Fafhrd and Mouse or was that a seperate series?

And what publishing company?

Eric P · « **Reply #20 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:35:54 AM »

Lankhmar Book 1
http://www.amazon.com/Lankhmar-Book-Swords-Deviltry/dp/1595820795/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b

The Lankhmar stuff is just a small portion of what he did.

For comic stuff like Mignolia, I'd have to say "ask Gaf" because Fnord Chan is never wrong.

Raban · « **Reply #21 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:39:06 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on February 03, 2008, 02:35:54 AM

Lankhmar Book 1
http://www.amazon.com/Lankhmar-Book-Swords-Deviltry/dp/1595820795/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b

The Lankhmar stuff is just a small portion of what he did.

For comic stuff like Mignolia, I'd have to say "ask Gaf" because Fnord Chan is never wrong.

Too bad I got banned from there.

Eric P · « **Reply #22 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:42:45 AM »

oh whoops

i'll ask for you then

Raban · « **Reply #23 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:52:40 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on February 03, 2008, 02:42:45 AM

oh whoops

i'll ask for you then

Thank you kindly then

Eric P · « **Reply #24 on:** February 03, 2008, 02:57:45 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235203

there you go. i'd check on monday afternoon or so

Raban · « **Reply #25 on:** February 03, 2008, 03:05:13 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on February 03, 2008, 02:57:45 AM

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235203

there you go. i'd check on monday afternoon or so

Ah, thanks much.

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Author Topic: Is Watchmen worth it? (Read 1753 times)