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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #120 on: October 31, 2006, 07:32:14 AM »

dude, shut up.  If the entire post fits on your screen, it isn't worthy to be compared to Loki.

Sorry, I don't have a 60 inch screen. :(
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #121 on: October 31, 2006, 09:04:01 AM »
the real question is are we all invited to the wedding?  I would like to have a reason to buy a new suit other than standing in front of a judge.
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #122 on: October 31, 2006, 09:39:54 AM »
what the flying fuck is "dkp"

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Dragon Kill Points, you get them for raiding in WoW or EQ. It's how you bid on gear.
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #123 on: October 31, 2006, 10:27:47 AM »
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that's why I didn't get it.
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #124 on: October 31, 2006, 11:37:51 AM »
This is Hall of Fame material when it's all said and done.
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #125 on: October 31, 2006, 11:57:40 AM »
Saint: I've played WoW since launch and even I didnt get that.
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #126 on: October 31, 2006, 10:16:45 PM »
malek: I'm not arguing that gender is a social construct.  There is obviously a strong internal gender identification.  However, there are tons of values, expectations, etc. that get assigned based on gender by society.

A boy being forced to live as a girl may sense that he is, in fact, a boy.  His insistence on wearing "male" clothing comes both from his gender identity and his perception of what constitutes male clothes.  Pink is currently considered feminine, but that's arbitrary, rather than innate.  Would he reject wearing a skirt if it were called a kilt and he saw all the men in his culture wearing it?

Looking at the evolution side, I don't see a lot of evidence for selective, monogamous women and promiscuous alpha males.  Bonobos and chimpanzees are promiscuous both male and female.  Menstrual cycles rather than estrus allow for greater sexual activity by females, hidden ovulation makes a harem less likely, and the evolution of sperm-producing genes shows that there has probably been competition within the uterus in recent (evolutionary) human history.

Some people throw around the alpha-male/maternal-female evolutionary sexual behavior meme a lot, and it is pretty intuitive.  That's the problem though; it's not really based on anything much deeper than intuition.

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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #127 on: October 31, 2006, 10:21:33 PM »
I immedately gloss over when I see one of Mandork's tracts

Seriously, man - have you ever had any contact with an actual human being outside of your family and / or care-takers? I get such an unbeliveable Stephen Hawking vibe from you.
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #128 on: October 31, 2006, 11:08:08 PM »
This is Hall of Fame material when it's all said and done.

It will be a hilarious thread to read when half the people in here are married or engaged in 4-5 years.




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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #129 on: October 31, 2006, 11:09:31 PM »
I highly doubt that statistic, Republican!
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #130 on: October 31, 2006, 11:14:10 PM »
I know which half I'll be in!
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #131 on: October 31, 2006, 11:14:33 PM »
Double homicide suicide half?
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #132 on: October 31, 2006, 11:19:16 PM »
Double homicide suicide half?

no.  the...uh.  the non-married..half.  not that one.  that's too many halves. 
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #133 on: October 31, 2006, 11:26:05 PM »
It will be a hilarious thread to read when half the people in here are married or engaged in 4-5 years.


Are you married or engaged?
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #134 on: October 31, 2006, 11:27:59 PM »
married for almost 4 years.


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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #135 on: October 31, 2006, 11:29:51 PM »
How long ago were you fucking that fat chick?
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #136 on: October 31, 2006, 11:38:13 PM »
I give my wife about 6 more years. :rimshot


But, seriously, back in 1995. Right before I moved to Cleveland. IShe wasn't real obsese. Probably in the 150-160 range. Always wanted sex with the lights off .. bummer.




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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #137 on: October 31, 2006, 11:41:50 PM »
You're an interesting cat, dude. Too bad you hate me so :cry
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #138 on: November 01, 2006, 01:10:06 AM »
what the flying fuck is "dkp"

Donkey Kong Points? I don't get it.
Dragon Kill Points, you get them for raiding in WoW or EQ. It's how you bid on gear.

How the hell did you know that? and why does PD have your picture in the costume thread? Who the hell are you again?
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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #139 on: November 01, 2006, 01:19:56 AM »
Good thread guys, keep it up.

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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #140 on: November 01, 2006, 01:29:02 AM »
Mandark I never argued that females were strictly monogamous. A drive for a long term mate along with a desire for multiple partners are not mutually exclusive. I simply said females were more selective then males, which they are in pretty much every species where the female carries the greater reproductive burden.

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Re: Cloudwalking do NOT get married yet.
« Reply #141 on: November 01, 2006, 04:40:16 AM »
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It can't possibly be that certain needs and desires are hardwired, its always society, peer groups, etc. with you people. You believe in evolution yet somehow believe evolution has not shaped modern man and woman. Do you think that natural selection would not select for a female brain that, to various degrees, desired to have children and subsequently a long-term mate to help raise those children?

But the defining and 'great' quality of the human race is their adaptability.  Such situations in the past demanded that the female stay home to care for the child and the man gather resources, so we adapted to those functions.  Now those roles are not necessary for survival in major Countries like the US, Canada or Britain(this is the last time I AM EVER CALLING CANADA A COUNTRY!). Predefined and strict roles are not a forerunner to survival. It just was that way for so long, that it became indoctrined into our cultures and society, but it is an outdated idea that not only isn't needed, but is quite possibley harmful.

There was a thread on this forum awhile ago about Maslow's pryamid, and I think it applies here. The female and male gender roles were adequate for a long time, but they worked at the low to midrange of Maslow's pryamid of self efficacy.  Now we have more convienences and flexibility. In our western world, every day is not a struggle to survive. We can afford to not reproduce, not go hunting and gathering, and not be trapped within roles.  Since we've fulfilled our basic needs, we naturally go to a higher need of self fullfilment. This is where gender roles become hamrful, because the roles themselves are like mental prisons that interlock together. We want to be more, we want to be many things more, but the roles say we can just be "this" and "this".

Of course, we are inclined to procreate the species, but we're not in harm of lack of survival and we are different in that we know that. So I do not think the woman looking to have babies and have a man provide is natural to us, I think it is a role we adapted to for a long time but is now not needed and unhealthy.  We must adapt again.

(sorry babbling post)

edit: I see this thread has already been going over the whole male role female role thing.
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