Author Topic: Hellraiser...tonight (Read 3191 times)

Phoenix Dark · « **on:** October 30, 2006, 07:28:54 PM »

I'm getting my dinner ready right now (mac and cheese, beans, italian sausage, and stir fried golden potatoes with onions and bell peppers)

WHO'S WITH ME?

Cheebs · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2006, 07:29:16 PM »

I already had dinner.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2006, 07:31:56 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on October 30, 2006, 07:29:16 PM

I already had dinner.

I bet you it sucked.

Bacon · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2006, 07:33:45 PM »

I have to watch Heroes.

Mupepe · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2006, 07:39:21 PM »

I'm working and when I get home I'm watching Running Scared or playing Half-Life 2. And I'll probably have a chicken pot pie for dinner.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2006, 07:44:14 PM »

BTW, I finally watched all of Running Scared this weekend. Its an alright film, but WAAAAAAY overhyped.

Play HL2 instead.

Mupepe · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2006, 07:52:00 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on October 30, 2006, 07:44:14 PM

BTW, I finally watched all of Running Scared this weekend. Its an alright film, but WAAAAAAY overhyped.

Play HL2 instead.

Running Scared was decent but it was overhyped. Luckily, I missed all the hype and noticed it after I saw it. Paul Walker is an atrocious actor too. God, he brought the whole film down.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2006, 07:53:58 PM »

Though I will say, that sex scene (with whatsherface from The Departed) is a straight 10 on my jerk-o-meter.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:12:02 PM »

I'll be flipping back and forth between Hellraiser/Hellraiser II and Heroes.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:39:09 PM »

It's on commercial right now, and my fucking sausage isn't done yet

I want to watch the second one tonight, but I've got a paper to write; I might just write it in the morning lol; my first class isn't until 11:30am anyway.

And tomorrow after class and a haircut, I'm going to the movies I think. I was to see The Departed or The Prestige. I'm leaning heavily towards The Departed

Mupepe · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2006, 08:45:42 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on October 30, 2006, 07:53:58 PM

Though I will say, that sex scene (with whatsherface from The Departed) is a straight 10 on my jerk-o-meter.

Oh most definitely.

Oh and the cheesy fucking happy ending WAS FUCKING BULLSHIT. klajdkl;sa; jfaskl;dfas

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:10:19 PM »

Hellraiser/Hellraiser II is a classic horror combo, if you can look past the fact that the sequel is not a horror film at all.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:22:57 PM »

Quote from: Willco on October 30, 2006, 09:10:19 PM

Hellraiser/Hellraiser II is a classic horror combo, if you can look past the fact that the sequel is not a horror film at all.

Is it good though? Worth staying up to watch?

Disposable White Guy · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:31:12 PM »

Yes.

NO ONE ESCAPES US

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2006, 10:13:15 PM »

Hellraiser II is a lot of fun, but it's not horror. The first one is almost a crazyed romantic horror zombie film with some weird Barker-on-Lovecraft stuff put in near the end - it's pretty great. The second one is like a dark fantasy fairy tale. Less horrorific, more bizare

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2006, 10:14:48 PM »

I HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2006, 10:21:31 PM »

The second one is on now; it's on commercial.

Hellraiser was a pretty good horror movie. I really loved the music. Also, for the most part the characters were very inventive. All the main demons looked awesome, in part because they were rooted in reality. Except for the one monster with the crow head and the giant head; looked like shit.

The ending was pretty underwhelming though.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:18:34 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on October 30, 2006, 10:14:48 PM

I HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU

Pinhead has some great lines. That and "THIS IS NOT FOR YOUR EYES" are great.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:35:06 PM »

Second one is kinda meh so far. The sets just come off as quite uninspired. This is FUCKING HELL for Christ's sake. Show me something original.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #19 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:35:50 PM »

I thought Hell is as some kind of crazy fantastical Escher painting was kind of neat, personally.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #20 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:50:27 PM »

Looks half ass to me. The Labrynth is interesting, but everything inside it does not match it. The "plant life" or whatever looked like something I saw in a 70's fantasty movie. And the claymation is rather MEH here too. The Doctor is pretty boring as a badguy; I hope Pinhead isn't fully dead. Movie's not over yet

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #21 on:** October 31, 2006, 12:23:56 AM »

Doctor Channard is crazy.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #22 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:39:41 AM »

I liked him better when he was a human.

Overall the movie was rather uneven; if I had gone to see the movie in the theater as a fan of the original, I would have been disappointed. After about 30 minutes it was clear the movie wasn't a "horror" movie like the first one, but that doesn't justify it being a rather average fantasy movie, if that. Like many fantasy movies it seemed to be held down by some cliches in the dialogue.

"You believe in fairytales? You should, because they come true. Even the bad ones..."

Whoa, thank you for that information!

As I said earlier, Hell should be quite an interesting area to tackle in a movie. Yet in Hellbound, Hell is rather...mellow. A labrynth that looks like it was borrowed from...The Labrynth, and some of the character designs/environments looked similar to 70's era fantasy romps.

To make matters worse, the movie offers some rather tasty peaks at Pinhead's past life, but then fails to expand the issue. It would have been extremely interesting to learn more about him and the other demons. Instead they all get "killed" like pussies, as if the writers ran out of ideas.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #23 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:44:13 AM »

I dig it for what it is. It's a good fantasy movie.

The only thing I don't like is the muddled plot with her uncle Frank. Supposedly, the guy who played her father was supposed to be in it, but bailed out at the last second - so we got some kind of ridiculous plot device with Frank and I think the movie suffers as a result.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #24 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:48:05 AM »

have you read barker's the hellbound heart, willco?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #25 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:50:17 AM »

It was pretty obvious.

"Haha, I tricked you to follow me into hell lolz. Nevermind that your dad most likely went to heaven...trust me!"

"OMG Frank it was you all along!"

"That's right, now fuck me"

"Ok..."

*messes shit up*

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Dude has been in Hell and still is falling for Christine's bullshit? Smack the bitch and violate her*

I'm not advocating that, I'm just saying that as an experienced rapist, that's what Frank should have done.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #26 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:54:08 AM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on October 31, 2006, 01:48:05 AM

have you read barker's the hellbound heart, willco?

Nope. I've read few of Barker's stories. He's kind of difficult to read.

TVC15 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 31, 2006, 02:08:45 AM »

Hellraiser II is awesome, once again proving that PD has no taste.

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"Haha, I tricked you to follow me into hell lolz. Nevermind that your dad most likely went to heaven...trust me!"

I don't think there is a heaven in the Hellraiser universe, dude.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #28 on:** October 31, 2006, 02:13:17 AM »

how is he difficult to read?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #29 on:** October 31, 2006, 02:15:07 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on October 31, 2006, 02:08:45 AM

Hellraiser II is awesome, once again proving that PD has no taste.

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"Haha, I tricked you to follow me into hell lolz. Nevermind that your dad most likely went to heaven...trust me!"

I don't think there is a heaven in the Hellraiser universe, dude.

Even better - the good folks wind up in Ypsilanti, Michigan where I can give them a tract EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK FOR ETERNITY MWUHAHAHA

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #30 on:** October 31, 2006, 02:15:11 AM »

I find him too verbose and uses a lot of language and references that are over my head. I'm not saying he's a bad writer - I'm saying I find him difficult to read.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #31 on:** October 31, 2006, 02:25:59 AM »

Sounds like you'd hate Lord of the Rings

Harry Potter and the Berstein Bears for you!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #32 on:** October 31, 2006, 02:27:56 AM »

Lord of the Rings is pretty easy to read, and are enjoyable books.

Also, that insult backfired since you're like the biggest Harry Potter douche on the face of the planet. Berenstein Bears are also more original than Harry Potter.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #33 on:** October 31, 2006, 02:46:47 AM »

Quote from: Willco on October 31, 2006, 02:27:56 AM

Lord of the Rings is pretty easy to read, and are enjoyable books.

Also, that insult backfired since you're like the biggest Harry Potter douche on the face of the planet. Berenstein Bears are also more original than Harry Potter.

I was reading the Bernstein Bears New Neighbors yesterday; found it at my parent's house. Oh the memories.

Papa Bear was such a racist. "Spite fence"

TVC15 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 31, 2006, 02:51:52 AM »

Quote from: Willco on October 31, 2006, 02:15:11 AM

I find him too verbose and uses a lot of language and references that are over my head. I'm not saying he's a bad writer - I'm saying I find him difficult to read.

What did you try to read?

Start with the Books of Blood. I don't like some of the turns he's taken in his career so maybe you are referring to them. His early stuff is great. Books of Blood, Hellbound Heart, Damnation Game. . .

Ecrofirt · « **Reply #35 on:** October 31, 2006, 06:50:37 AM »

So I've watched both movies now (Hellraiser several times, II for the first time last night), and I think they go over my head or something.

I thought the whole point was that the puzzle box bought about Pinhead and the like, but it appears there's a lot more to the movies. II especially just went over my head, I think.

Disposable White Guy · « **Reply #36 on:** October 31, 2006, 09:02:52 AM »

I read The Hellbound Heart a loooong time ago and have to agree that it's pretty good stuff. Barker's writing style reminds of Neil Gaiman, only...I dunno, more evil? I guess that's befitting. I'm pretty sure he was mostly inspired by Lovecraft, who also used overly descriptive/complex narrative in his works, which might account to why you might think it's 'difficult to read'.

After watching it again last night, the only problem I have with Hellraiser II is that it attempted to describe what happened in Hellraiser, but ultimately didn't.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #37 on:** October 31, 2006, 10:37:10 AM »

Lovecraft is just a bad writer, but I've never had problems reading him either.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #38 on:** October 31, 2006, 11:52:46 AM »

how on earth did you find barker "too difficult", then? his language is pretty pedestrian compared to lovecraft's unpleasantly purple prose.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #39 on:** October 31, 2006, 12:12:13 PM »

Maybe I need to go back, but the last time I picked up anything with Barker's name on it was probably junior high and it just went over my head (keep in mind, at the time I was reading stuff way beyond my grade school reading level, albeit mostly mainstream drivel). I picked up Lovecraft in college.

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Author Topic: Hellraiser...tonight (Read 3191 times)