Author Topic: Biggest Oscar Failures? (Read 15340 times)

CajoleJuice · « **on:** February 24, 2008, 05:43:47 PM »

In light of the awards tonight, and being obsessed with Glengarry Glen Ross at the moment, I felt like making this thread.

How the fuck did Glengarry NOT get an Adapted Screenplay nod? How the fuck???

And yes, Forrest Gump, we know.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2008, 05:54:55 PM »

The Departed, Titanic, etc.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2008, 05:56:55 PM »

Well, I was hoping for some we don't bring up all the time.

Mupepe · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2008, 05:58:38 PM »

Leonardo Dicaprio should have won an Oscar for What's Eating Gilbert Grape? but instead, Tommy Lee Jones did for The Fugitive. Fucking bullshit.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2008, 06:01:15 PM »

Al Pacino's token Oscar for HOO HA I'M BLIND AND CRANKY

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2008, 06:05:26 PM »

Halle Berry's token Oscar for HOO HA I'M BLACK AND I SHOWED MY FLOPPY TITS

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6 on:** February 24, 2008, 06:05:52 PM »

Whatever. Forest Gump 10/10

Powerslave · « **Reply #7 on:** February 24, 2008, 06:07:00 PM »

Man who cares for the Oscar's. We all know the people who deserve to win them never do.

Rman · « **Reply #8 on:** February 24, 2008, 06:09:03 PM »

How about Traffic winning best picture? I still can't believe that won.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #9 on:** February 24, 2008, 06:15:44 PM »

Marisa Tomei for My Cousin Vinnie and nothing for Goodfellas.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10 on:** February 24, 2008, 06:16:50 PM »

Taxi Driver? Raging Bull? GOODFELLAS?

EvilBoris · « **Reply #11 on:** February 24, 2008, 06:26:07 PM »

Quote from: Rman on February 24, 2008, 06:09:03 PM

How about Traffic winning best picture? I still can't believe that won.

Gladiator won that year.... feel any better?

TVC15 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 24, 2008, 07:02:27 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 05:43:47 PM

How the fuck did Glengarry NOT get an Adapted Screenplay nod? How the fuck???

Would it even count? The movie was already a play. It wasn't adapted from a non-script source.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #13 on:** February 24, 2008, 07:14:13 PM »

Well the last 3 best picture's were the departed, crash, and million dollar baby.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #14 on:** February 24, 2008, 07:28:04 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 24, 2008, 07:02:27 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 05:43:47 PM
How the fuck did Glengarry NOT get an Adapted Screenplay nod? How the fuck???

Would it even count? The movie was already a play. It wasn't adapted from a non-script source.

Oh, never thought of that. You're probably right.

Edit: No, Chicago got a nod for Best Adapted Screenplay. Fuck that.

TVC15 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 24, 2008, 07:48:24 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 07:28:04 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 24, 2008, 07:02:27 PM
Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 05:43:47 PM
How the fuck did Glengarry NOT get an Adapted Screenplay nod? How the fuck???

Would it even count? The movie was already a play. It wasn't adapted from a non-script source.

Oh, never thought of that. You're probably right.

Edit: No, Chicago got a nod for Best Adapted Screenplay. Fuck that.

David Mamet wrote the play and the screenplay. Maybe it didn't require many rewrites, and maybe Chicago, which was not originally authored and adapted by the same writer, did. These things are all very arbitrary.

Ichirou · « **Reply #16 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:25:01 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on February 24, 2008, 06:05:26 PM

Halle Berry's token Oscar for HOO HA I'M BLACK AND I SHOWED MY FLOPPY TITS

THEY WERE NOT FLOPPY

Bloodwake · « **Reply #17 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:25:36 PM »

Chicago won best picture once upon a time.....

That pretty much sums it up there.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #18 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:26:35 PM »

Yea, I'm starting to think "things the Academy got right" would be a better thread.

TVC15 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:29:48 PM »

Always remember: Gump beat Pulp Fiction.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:31:28 PM »

And Shawshank too.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #21 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:31:42 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 24, 2008, 08:29:48 PM

Always remember: Gump beat Pulp Fiction.

Uh, yeah, I remember QUITE CLEARLY.

I know of at least three people who will argue with me about this. They don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Pulp Fiction is a VASTLY better movie in EVERY FUCKING ASPECT.

Dumbass stupid Academy.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #22 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:33:37 PM »

Gump is one of my favorite movies ever, but Pulp Fiction is one of the best movies I've seen. Shawshank is better than both in my estimate

Bloodwake · « **Reply #23 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:34:42 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 08:31:28 PM

And Shawshank too.

Amen

Bloodwake · « **Reply #24 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:36:04 PM »

Films the Academy got RIGHT

From the list of nominees, last year (The Departed) was probably the best of the five. Still, seriously, Children of Men.

Schindler's List
The Silence of the Lambs

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #25 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:37:20 PM »

Shawshank is just as overtly sentimental and melodramatic than Forrest Gump. Though it has no Tom Hanks so it's marginally better.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #26 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:38:05 PM »

hahahahaha holy shit Babe was a Best Picture Nominee

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #27 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:38:44 PM »

Originally I felt The Departed was the best film of 2007 but after watching Children of Men multiple times I changed my mind. I also need to see Pan's again

But damn 2007 was full of great movies that could have won.

TVC15 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:40:25 PM »

Quote from: Bloodwake on February 24, 2008, 08:36:04 PM

Films the Academy got RIGHT

From the list of nominees, last year (The Departed) was probably the best of the five. Still, seriously, Children of Men.

Schindler's List
The Silence of the Lambs

1. Shawshank is overrated. Good not great, emotionally manipulative, unchallenging. The only reason it stands out to anyone is because they used to fucking show it on TV all the time, so a movie that everyone can agree is good appears greater than it actually is due to consensus.

2. JFK should have won over Silence of the Lambs. Silence of the Lambs is a solid suspense movie with some great acting. Once you get past the kinda brilliant acting, there's no substance.

3. And to PD, The Departed is fucking boring and stupid. It was a pity Oscar. It's not even a good movie.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #29 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:41:39 PM »

wrong on all three points!

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #30 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:42:37 PM »

Here's my point about Shawshank: even if the Academy didn't want to give the award to something like Pulp Fiction, they had a movie in a similar "emotionally manipulative" mold to Forrest Gump - but no doubt better - to pick.

Ichirou · « **Reply #31 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:43:03 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 08:38:05 PM

hahahahaha holy shit Babe was a Best Picture Nominee

Babe is one of the best kid's movies ever.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #32 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:43:32 PM »

Quote from: Ichi on February 24, 2008, 08:43:03 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 08:38:05 PM
hahahahaha holy shit Babe was a Best Picture Nominee

Babe is one of the best kid's movies ever.

hahahaha BABE

TVC15 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:45:03 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 08:42:37 PM

Here's my point about Shawshank: even if the Academy didn't want to give the award to something like Pulp Fiction, they had a movie in a similar "emotionally manipulative" mold to Forrest Gump - but no doubt better - to pick.

True, true. I think the fucking oldster academy members got misty-eyed at Gump's soundtrack. That was pornographic sex to old people back then, in the pre-viagra days when impotent people had long forgotten what sex was actually like.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #34 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:45:42 PM »

Quote from: Ichi on February 24, 2008, 08:43:03 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 08:38:05 PM
hahahahaha holy shit Babe was a Best Picture Nominee

Babe is one of the best kid's movies ever.

QFT

Holy shit this is the first time Cajole has been DEAD WRONG about something

Someone explain to me why Shawshank is emotionally manipulative. I've never understood or bought those arguments

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #35 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:46:17 PM »

I never really got the Gump love...that movie sucked and obviously sucked forever

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #36 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:46:28 PM »

I've never even seen Babe. It just seems so out of place.

Ichirou · « **Reply #37 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:46:45 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 08:43:32 PM

Quote from: Ichi on February 24, 2008, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 08:38:05 PM
hahahahaha holy shit Babe was a Best Picture Nominee

Babe is one of the best kid's movies ever.

hahahaha BABE

That'll do, Juice. That'll do.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #38 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:48:33 PM »

My eyes still water up at the end of Babe $:-\$

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #39 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:49:17 PM »

mmmm bacon

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #40 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:49:59 PM »

Babe and Matilda were probably the best children's movies of the 90s

Ichirou · « **Reply #41 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:50:46 PM »

Yeah, Babe's got such a great message for kids. Great movie, deserved the nomination, IMO.

Also, Cajole, the movie does not shy away from showing the fact that pigs are generally considered just that - food.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #42 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:51:13 PM »

Never seen that either. Children's movies

Except for TMNT 1 and 2.

TVC15 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:51:17 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 24, 2008, 08:45:42 PM

Someone explain to me why Shawshank is emotionally manipulative. I've never understood or bought those arguments

That's because you are easily manipulated. Basically, if you were a woman, and your husband beat you all the time, you'd probably think he still loved you.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #44 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:52:17 PM »

I'm also glad to see TVC drop some maaaad science when it comes to Shawshank. what a piece of shit movie.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #45 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:52:21 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 24, 2008, 08:40:25 PM

Quote from: Bloodwake on February 24, 2008, 08:36:04 PM
Films the Academy got RIGHT

From the list of nominees, last year (The Departed) was probably the best of the five. Still, seriously, Children of Men.

Schindler's List
The Silence of the Lambs

3. And to PD, The Departed is fucking boring and stupid. It was a pity Oscar. It's not even a good movie.

Eh, I disagree. Go watch the Condemned and tell me it sucks.

Ichirou · « **Reply #46 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:53:30 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 08:51:13 PM

Never seen that either. Children's movies

Except for TMNT 1 and 2.

Secret of the Ooze was a transformative experience for me as a young man.

And

at Patel's shitty taste.

TVC15 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:53:49 PM »

Quote from: Bloodwake on February 24, 2008, 08:52:21 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 24, 2008, 08:40:25 PM
Quote from: Bloodwake on February 24, 2008, 08:36:04 PM
Films the Academy got RIGHT

From the list of nominees, last year (The Departed) was probably the best of the five. Still, seriously, Children of Men.

Schindler's List
The Silence of the Lambs

3. And to PD, The Departed is fucking boring and stupid. It was a pity Oscar. It's not even a good movie.

Eh, I disagree. Go watch the Condemned and tell me it sucks.

What is The Condemned?

The Departed was a pity oscar for past sins against Marty. This isn't even debatable.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #48 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:54:01 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 24, 2008, 08:45:42 PM

Someone explain to me why Shawshank is emotionally manipulative. I've never understood or bought those arguments

Because the guy is a living saint and martyr, meant to get all our sympathy. I mean he gets falsely accused of murdering his wife (and says he deserved it WTF), raped and gets his free card shot but nevertheless help fellow inmates, helps prison guards and isn't fucking bitter about it. So by the time he steals all that money we think that's okay he deserves it.

Also Babe > Shawshank Redemption >>>> Forrest Gump.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #49 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:54:39 PM »

Quote from: Fresh Prince on February 24, 2008, 08:54:01 PM

Also Babe > Shawshank Redemption >>>> Forrest Gump.

Truth bombs exploding all over this thread.

But Spy Kids > Babe.

Ichirou · « **Reply #50 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:54:45 PM »

The Shawshank Redemption is a very good movie, especially when viewed as a homage to classic prison movies like The Birdman of Alcatraz. It moved me.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #51 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:54:56 PM »

Quote from: Ichi on February 24, 2008, 08:53:30 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on February 24, 2008, 08:51:13 PM
Never seen that either. Children's movies

Except for TMNT 1 and 2.

Secret of the Ooze was a transformative experience for me as a young man.

And at Patel's shitty taste.

I just watched it for a half-hour or so the other day on TV.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #52 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:55:21 PM »

Frank Darabont is one of the worst, most overrated screenwriters ever.

Ichirou · « **Reply #53 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:55:29 PM »

Quote from: Fresh Prince on February 24, 2008, 08:54:01 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 24, 2008, 08:45:42 PM
Someone explain to me why Shawshank is emotionally manipulative. I've never understood or bought those arguments
Because the guy is a living saint and martyr, meant to get all our sympathy. I mean he gets falsely accused of murdering his wife (and says he deserved it WTF), raped and gets his free card shot but nevertheless help fellow inmates, helps prison guards and isn't fucking bitter about it. So by the time he steals all that money we think that's okay he deserves it.

Also Babe > Shawshank Redemption >>>> Forrest Gump.

Also, he doesn't steal any money.

Mupepe · « **Reply #54 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:56:15 PM »

Pan's is the best movie of '07 hands fucking down

Ichirou · « **Reply #55 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:56:50 PM »

Pan's came out in '06, tho. But yeah, it makes me really want to see The Spirit of the Beehive, which was one of its biggest inspirations.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #56 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:57:06 PM »

No, Mupepe.

TVC15 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:57:36 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on February 24, 2008, 08:56:15 PM

Pan's is the best movie of '07 hands fucking down

2006, and you're probably right. It's close between that and Children of Men, but Pan's has stayed with me more. Amazing amazing movie.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #58 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:58:00 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #59 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:58:09 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 24, 2008, 08:51:17 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 24, 2008, 08:45:42 PM
Someone explain to me why Shawshank is emotionally manipulative. I've never understood or bought those arguments

That's because you are easily manipulated. Basically, if you were a woman, and your husband beat you all the time, you'd probably think he still loved you.

Explain it to me omg

Art elicits emotion. Music can create a sad atmosphere which people (you know, humans with emotions and stuff) relate to, and even cry over. Film can remind a person of past experiences, their family, etc. What's wrong with that?

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