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TakingBackSunday

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People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« on: February 28, 2008, 09:53:11 PM »
 :punch :punch :punch gaf is full of idiots.  How can they same the movie is bad....wtf
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Ichirou

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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2008, 09:54:02 PM »
Some people actually like Catcher in the Rye.  Y'know, taste is a funny thing...
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2008, 09:54:05 PM »
It's the same forum that thinks Uncharted was a noteworthy game.  Go figure.
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2008, 09:57:33 PM »
It was a great film.

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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2008, 09:58:42 PM »
Some people actually like Catcher in the Rye.  Y'know, taste is a funny thing...

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How much of Sinclair's socialist agenda stays intact in the film?

Considering it is an incredibly loose adaptation, I'd say little to no.
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2008, 09:58:46 PM »
It was a great film.

ditto

I just saw this last week.  It is full of lol.  (the good kind)

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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2008, 11:10:53 PM »
It's the same forum that thinks No More Heroes was a noteworthy game.  Go figure.

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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2008, 11:12:30 PM »
It's the same forum that thinks Uncharted was a noteworthy game.  Go figure.

Have you watched the film yet?  How do you know it doesn't suck? 

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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2008, 11:13:27 PM »
Some people actually like Catcher in the Rye.  Y'know, taste is a funny thing...

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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2008, 11:38:11 PM »
I love Catcher in the Rye. :-\

I'm so emo.
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2008, 12:00:15 AM »
I love Catcher in the Rye. :-\

I'm so emo.

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There Will Be Blood and Catcher in the Rye lovers :heart
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2008, 12:01:27 AM »
Catcher in the Rye is good.  It's just not as profoud as 15 year olds would like to believe

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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2008, 12:02:31 AM »
I really liked it, but I can to a certain degree understand the hate.  The best rebuttal I've heard yet came from Salon, which I don't quite agree with, but I can see where they're coming from.

http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2008/02/20/daniel_day_lewis/

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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2008, 12:02:38 AM »
People hate on Catcher in the Rye wtf? TVC explain
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2008, 12:10:24 AM »
I remember when I was a teenager and thought my taste was impeccable

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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2008, 12:20:36 AM »
I really liked it, but I can to a certain degree understand the hate.  The best rebuttal I've heard yet came from Salon, which I don't quite agree with, but I can see where they're coming from.

http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2008/02/20/daniel_day_lewis/

That's a really damn good article.
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2008, 01:01:39 AM »
People hate on Catcher in the Rye wtf? TVC explain
"BAWW PHONIES I HATE THE WORLD I'M A TEENAGER"
/Holden Caulfield
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2008, 01:02:32 AM »
I want to see it. I heard it was pretty good.
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2008, 04:09:33 AM »
I haven't seen the movie but the World Socialist Website had a pretty convincingly scathing review of it!
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/feb2008/ther-f06.shtml

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Histrionic, fatally confused and socially evasive, Paul Thomas Anderson’s There Will Be Blood is all the worse for its touching upon important subjects, oil and religion in American life. Putting the best interpretation on it, Anderson is simply way in over his head, with ultimately disastrous artistic consequences. [...]

The film’s publicity variously suggests that There Will Be Blood is “based on” or “inspired by” Upton Sinclair’s 1927 novel, Oil! [...] Anderson has the right to make any film he chooses, but it seems light-minded in the extreme to invoke Oil! as inspiration or even a “stepping-stone” while creating a work that only makes passing reference to a few sequences in the original novel, and radically transposes or alters those, sometimes to the precisely opposite effect. [...] 

Oil! is not a great work of art, but it is lively and observant. [...] It is worth noting some of the differences between the novel and the film—differences not bound up with the changes that inevitably arise from adapting a work to a different medium, but with distinct and even opposed artistic and social purposes. [...] Sinclair’s oilman, Ross, is an affable individual, a caring father, slightly overweight, largely uneducated although a shrewd businessman, thoroughly pragmatic. [...] Anderson’s Plainview is a different sort of animal: paranoid, unfriendly, secretive, a lone wolf—the director’s is a far more “radical” (and, frankly, trite) vision of a prospective oil baron. [...]  Indeed, Ross remains likable to the end of the novel, and continues to enjoy his son’s affection throughout, even as the latter becomes a “social reformer.” The older man’s defense of his misdeeds, when challenged by his son, is that there’s a “difference between a theoretical and practical view of a question.” [...] Oil! is nothing if not expansive (perhaps too expansive) in its ambitions. The title of the book is somewhat misleading, as it seeks to make a more general survey of American political and social life in the first quarter of the last century.

[...E]veryone (with the possible exception of Plainview’s son and the latter’s future bride, who have minor roles) takes a turn for the worse in the film as compared with the novel. The genial Ross, who merely believes that “practical” men like himself are obliged to bend the rules, becomes the misanthropic Plainview, who proclaims that “I see the worst in people,” whose life seems to be an accumulation of pointless hatreds and who murders two men in cold blood. [...] Details in the book are turned upside down for the sole purpose, apparently, of making the characters more malicious and their behavior more irrational.

[...T]he oil workers themselves undergo a transformation from novel to film. Sinclair’s attitude, as much as he criticizes the depredations of the private companies, is essentially sympathetic toward the discovery and production of oil. [...] The men, too, as hard as they work, are not downtrodden and crushed. [...] In the film, the oil workers are nameless, faceless drones, ominous and interchangeable. This, again, is considered the “radical” view of things these days. In fact, it represents a diminution of life. [...]

Plainview’s growing lunacy simply goes unexplained. Very wealthy individuals may go entirely mad, like Howard Hughes, or not, like Warren Buffett. An artist makes it very easy for himself if he or she simply implies that the acquisition of wealth and power in and of itself is enough to drive someone insane. The lack of concrete connection between Plainview’s social existence and his mania tends to conceal, rather than lay bare, any mentally devastating social processes that might be at work. [...]

What could have been a scathing assault, through a reworking of Oil! or otherwise, on corporate America and fundamentalist religion is no such thing, despite the claims of various “left” critics and wishful thinkers. Of course Anderson is under no obligation to launch such an assault if he doesn’t believe one is necessary, but choosing Sinclair’s novel and then systematically declawing it seems an almost provocative act. [...] No one has any use for a “political film” that is didactic or pat, or knows all the answers, but Anderson is excluding the possibility of an artistic, spontaneous and insightful examination of social life as a whole, the possibility of presenting the big picture. [...]
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2008, 06:47:06 AM »
People hate on Catcher in the Rye wtf? TVC explain
"BAWW PHONIES I HATE THE WORLD I'M A TEENAGER"
/Holden Caulfield

You know you don't have to take the book in that way.  That's only a fraction of the overarching theme of Catcher.
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Re: People who hate There Will Be Blood are fucking morons
« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2008, 08:50:22 AM »
Please enlighten us.
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