STAR OCEAN 4: TRI ACE OWNS YOUR FUCKING FACE

[calcifer]

namco is distinguished mentally-challenged.. square isnt

there's nothing distinguished mentally-challenged about SO4 being on 360.

SO is a good selling series here and 360 is a SW beast.

for shoote em ups, not jrpgs

[Jabberwocky]

is it too late to ask for clean scans of all the VPDS pages? 

[Error2k4]

namco is distinguished mentally-challenged.. square isnt

there's nothing distinguished mentally-challenged about SO4 being on 360.

SO is a good selling series here and 360 is a SW beast.

for shoote em ups, not jrpgs

LO sold pretty well here.

[calcifer]

200k is good now?

lo cost 30 million do make so they're not even getting their money back let alone making a profit if lo's done 400k worldwide which would be a very generous estimate

[calcifer]

vesperia was set for 360 before it was proven to be a horrible system for jrpgs and i bet you namco is scrambling to get it ported to ps3 as we speak

so4 is ps3 exclusive so i dunno what you're talking about there

so far 4 or 5 jrpgs has been released on 360 and all bombed.. some more than others

do you seriously think it will continue to get jrpgs even when ps3 is outselling 360 everywhere?

so4 will be the start of trend for jrpgs on ps3 and i think you both know it but are sad  :'(

[calcifer]

more 360 games has bombed than ps3 games

[calcifer]

going by namco's report average sales on ps3 is 162,000

only 34,000 on 360

average for ps2 is 170,000 which is almost the same as ps3

so ps3 is a much more viable platform than 360 ever will be and ps3 will only get better and better

[Mondain]

calcifer, are you "mingeford wanksbury" on OA

[MCD]

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=734

[recursivelyenumerable]

they are BOTH distinguished mentally-challenged.

Square games on PS3 only is distinguished mentally-challenged
Namco games on X360 only is distinguished mentally-challenged.

The more these companies are run like fanboy factories and not like PROPER COMPANIES then they are all distinguished mentally-challenged.

Square's risk with FF13 comes from producing it for next-generation hardware at all.  Porting to 360 would only slightly mitigate that.

[Oblivion]

Didn't every hate SO3? Or at least think that it was mediocre? Why the excitement over this?

[y2kev]

TO BEAT EA *WOOO*
YOU GOTTA BE *WOO* EA *struts*

[recursivelyenumerable]

oh i'm sure they are cursing the day they decided to move it to next gen.
SE want to Japan-EA. But to be EA, you got to BE EA.
If it uses electricity, put a friggen version out on it.

Nah, I think it was the right decision.  New numbered FFs are about advanced production values.  They can get their cash flow from the handheld spinoffs.

SE's strategy is a little different from EA's, instead of releasing the same game on multiple platforms, they create different games based on the same worldview for each platform.

[tiesto]

Didn't every hate SO3? Or at least think that it was mediocre? Why the excitement over this?

'cuz SO1, 2, and many other of tri-Ace's games were so good...

[demi]

Didn't every hate SO3? Or at least think that it was mediocre? Why the excitement over this?

WOW you are a cigarillo, let's count all the ways NINTENDO fucked up

[Error2k4]

Didn't every hate SO3? Or at least think that it was mediocre? Why the excitement over this?

game is flawed but I've put over 200 hours in it. I'm still playing it, must get more Battle Trophies.

I liked it a lot more than Radiata. I think SO1 SFC is the worst SO game, so hopefully SE brings the remake here.

[Oblivion]

Didn't every hate SO3? Or at least think that it was mediocre? Why the excitement over this?

WOW you are a cigarillo, let's count all the ways NINTENDO fucked up

I ain't never played any of the SO games and always heard negativity regarding the last one. So SHUT YER HOLE plz.

[pilonv1]

If Sony were really paying Sqaure they would have kept DQIX on PS2.

[y2kev]

Nomura is a big PS fanboy.

[y2kev]

Nomura is a big PS fanboy.

that's the thing though - when you are a listed company with a duty to maximise returns to your shareholders, what place does fanboyism have?

are we talking about the japanese here

[pilonv1]

Nomura is a big PS fanboy.

that's the thing though - when you are a listed company with a duty to maximise returns to your shareholders, what place does fanboyism have?

maybe he's a gaffer

you could at least be like Valve where they are PC fanboys but they understand that consoles aren't going away and need to be thrown a bone once in a while.

[Mr. Gundam]

Nomura is a big PS fanboy.

that's the thing though - when you are a listed company with a duty to maximise returns to your shareholders, what place does fanboyism have?

are we talking about the japanese here

Yeah, I have a feeling that national pride and that continued sense of xenophobism in Japan (Sony and Nintendo) gets in the way of maxmizing returns.

But, things are a lot better than they were last generation. There are actual SE titles in development for the 360...

[recursivelyenumerable]

The decision on the hardware for FF13 and Versus was made back in 2005.  Square doesn't have much history of multiplatform development and, as I said, the actual gains from a cross-platform release wouldn't be huge.  I doubt hardware "fanboyism" was a factor at all, it's just that working on multiple versions of a game simultaneously isn't something they're used to doing.

[calcifer]

Us: Infinite Undiscovery aside – what tri-Ace game is your favorite? What RPGs, outside of tri-Ace’s, did you really like?

Ogawa: Star Ocean 4 [tri-Ace’s upcoming PS3 RPG] is my number one recommendation (laughs).

Quazar:
In all seriousness, why did you guys print that Ryan?

Ryan_OXM:
We didn't. The Ogawa interview was a web-only complement to the print article.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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[calcifer]

bump

i demand tears

[calcifer]

not only is he saying he prefers the ps3 exclusive over the 360 exclusive in an interview about the 360 exclusive for a 360 only magazine but the ps3 looks so much better graphically

[calcifer]

jonnyram should really take me off ignore

it just makes him look stupid

[calcifer]

stop acting like you two are teh insidurz just because you live in japan

i probably know more than both of you combined

[calcifer]

hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

hurry, dcharlie you're late for your dinner with kojima! i bet he will tell you all about his secret 360 project!

[evilol]

you can smell the fear from the xcunts in the gaf thread. 

[tiesto]

If this is PS3 exclusive, this'll just give me the impetus to buy a PS3... I seriously am that much a fan of tri-Ace.

[tiesto]

I seem to remember sfags saying they don't need Star Ocean 4 because the third one "sucked so badly".

Why the change of tune?

Same reason xfags used to constantly smite Japanese-origin games (especially RPGs) until the releases of the Mistwalker games. System war bullshit. Best way to do things is buy a system if it has the games you like on it, or if you are poor and can't afford more than one system, keep your trap shut.

[Mr. Gundam]

I enjoyed SO2, but hated SO3 with a passion. I'm willing to give SO4 a shot.

[calcifer]

it is

square has a bit higher standards than ms when it comes to games sales so 100k wont do here

[calcifer]

i guess it makes sense to put it on wii as well as ps3

crystal tools

[MoxManiac]

Wow this shits all over SO3

[calcifer]

the fact crystal tools is now Wii compliant should be screaming in peoples faces where the Japofail industry is going.

NOW WII COMPLIANT should be a wake up call. FF13 will be the last single platform game SE bother with.

They want to be the Japanese EA - and you'll see them acting like the western EA more and more over the next few years.

a wiis3 future in japan would be the best thing ever

[recursivelyenumerable]

SE already has their own multiplatform strategy which revolves around creating DIFFERENT (but related) games for each platform, not releasing the same game on every platform.  There may well be a lot of PS3/X360 dual platform releases since they're similar, but expecting them to extend that to Wii is ridiculous.  smh

[recursivelyenumerable]

How do you reuse art assets across (what are essentially) generational boundaries?  Maybe you could use them as prerendered backgrounds or sprites, or FMVs (a couple of Square's GBA/DS games already do this, Ninja Gaiden DS is another example).  Which actually lends itself to creating different games more than porting the same game.

Or you can do like FFCC WiiWare and reuse Gamecube (or PS2?) assets instead.  (And still make a different game!)

[recursivelyenumerable]

 

from talk about FFCC WiiWare:

"In our current project, we knew we couldn't use our standard model. So we basically had to go back to the basics." First, he says, they decided on a target price and memory size, and then went back to some older assets for ideas. Once a basic pipeline was established, new assets could be added.

Development was scheduled for seven months, with a maximum of eight people. This time, the team started with the game concept rather than with visual assets. It's about building a world rather than exploring one, so the need for extensive concept art and new assets was minimized. "Unless you can show something that's truly compelling, we think it's better to leave things to the imagination," Shiraishi suggested.

Note: this shows creating a NEW game for a different platform using existing assets can be done efficiently.  I doubt porting an existing game from PS3 or X360 would have even been much cheaper.

[recursivelyenumerable]

360-PS3-PC makes sense, porting the same game to Wii doesn't.  Releasing a separate, different game on Wii that maybe shares assets somehow may make sense.

[demi]

bump for lulz

Enjoy Star Ocean 4, guys

[Enl]

so4 is at the very least ps3 time exclusive

only a fool would think otherwise

 

[Himu]

owned

[BlueTsunami]

So SO for 360? WOAH, theres going to be alot of red faces on gaf

[MCD]

i am sorry for doubting you, emperor dcharlie.

 

[onsedatives]

calcifer has been fucking owned. 

Here you go, pals.

Infinite Undiscovery


Star Ocean 4

If any of that is in-game... :O

[MCD]

i think they are all cg shots but...



i see jaggies on the sword.

[MCD]

[onsedatives]

calcifer has been fucking owned. 

If any of that is in-game... :O

Then what?

It doesn't look impressive.

Looks impressive to me.

[GilloD]

This shot has me psyched.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

so4 is at the very least ps3 time exclusive

only a fool would think otherwise

Oh my.

[BlueTsunami]

Calcifer is gone though, or maybe his ghost still haunts the halls of this forum :is a mystery

[WrikaWrek]

A lot of bitter tears.

I'm just excited for a SO4.

[MrSingh]

calcifuckowned!

[MCD]

[MCD]

i don't like the excessive bloom in the first shot.

[CurseoftheGods]

Oh, man. This game looks so awesome.

[Great Rumbler]

Just to get everyone in the mood, let's relive two of the best intros in videogame history:

[youtube=425,350]o_Cb01zsIv4[/youtube]

[youtube=425,350]NpEN3b9jdbY[/youtube]

[thekavorka]

i've never played star ocean before. are there random battles? if there is, no sale.