Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep is omg awesome

[Phoenix Dark]

I started it last night and wound up reading 100 pages. It's great so far

WHAT I LIKE:
-I love novels that feature extensive back stories, especially when it's actually interesting. Even the most off hand remarks by characters can be filled with so much intriguing stuff.

On that same note there are so many awesome cock teasers in the book. Many huge ideas are briefly mentioned, so awesome and confusing that I'm like wtf and read the paragraph again. Like the first chapter with the mood generator thingie. Which is interesting because so far a lot of the book deals with the differences between humans and androids, yet it's as if the humans rely so much on electronics to make them feel anything. Kinda like Brazil

[TVC15]

You shoulda read The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch instead.

[Joe Molotov]

Phillip K. Dick is omg awesome, in general. Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and The Man in the High Castle will rock your face.

[Phoenix Dark]

You shoulda read The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch instead.

Bitch you advised me to read Electric Sheep first!

[BlueTsunami]

PKD am mindfuck. I still need to read his othe works.

[TVC15]

You shoulda read The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch instead.

Bitch you advised me to read Electric Sheep first!

I sed:

All of the big name ones are good.  Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, UBIK, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch,  Flow My Tears the Policeman Said, The Man in the High Castle, A Scanner Darkly.  They're all really quick reads, too.  And you can't go wrong with his short stories, either.

But yeah, I didn't single out Palmer Eldritch.  It's my personal favorite of the majors, but you'll find people are generally split on their favorite.

[Eric P]

radio free albemouth
ubik
valis
the divine invasion
the transmigration of timothy archer
three stigmata of palmer eldrich
time out of joint
the man in the high castle
flow my tears the policeman said

are my favorites

don't read them all in a row like i did

it will fuck up your brain for a few months

[Phoenix Dark]

btw Eric P are you named after a certain Eric P Nash, who has a few words on the cover of my version of the book?

[Eric P]

no,  it's my real name

[CajoleJuice]

Phillip K. Dick is omg awesome, in general. Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and The Man in the High Castle will rock your face.

I really liked the premise and almost all of The Man in the High Castle, but its payoff is kinda weak. Palmer Eldritch is just WTFMINDBLOWNAHHHH though. I would've finished up the collection with Electric Sheep and Ubik by now if it weren't for me having to read a shitton of other sci-fi for a class. I'm not complaining though.

[Phoenix Dark]

Another thing I like: the John Isadore story. I'm pretty sure

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his new neighbor is an android. This adds a whole new layer to the book as you view the android through the eyes of a mentally flawed character who simply can't connect the dots.

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[Powerslave]

The title of this book is distinguished mentally-challenged.

[CajoleJuice]

And just as I unignored you.

[Powerslave]

Like I care.

[Robo]

Phillip K. Dick is omg awesome, in general. Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and The Man in the High Castle will rock your face.

I really liked the premise and almost all of The Man in the High Castle, but its payoff is kinda weak. Palmer Eldritch is just WTFMINDBLOWNAHHHH though. I would've finished up the collection with Electric Sheep and Ubik by now if it weren't for me having to read a shitton of other sci-fi for a class. I'm not complaining though.

Really?  The ending is so left-field, I felt as if I just realized I'd been getting fucked in the butt in a virtual world for days.

[CajoleJuice]

Phillip K. Dick is omg awesome, in general. Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and The Man in the High Castle will rock your face.

I really liked the premise and almost all of The Man in the High Castle, but its payoff is kinda weak. Palmer Eldritch is just WTFMINDBLOWNAHHHH though. I would've finished up the collection with Electric Sheep and Ubik by now if it weren't for me having to read a shitton of other sci-fi for a class. I'm not complaining though.

Really?  The ending is so left-field, I felt as if I just realized I'd been getting fucked in the butt in a virtual world for days.

I think that's why I didn't like it.

[Eric P]

reading the bond books a year before the release of casino royale really surprised me.

the books are so good

so what the hell are the movies doing?

[Trent Dole]

Is it bad that I thought this thread would be about Gary Numan?

[Phoenix Dark]

Book went from great to fuck awesome

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I'm referring to the part where Rickard goes after the opera singer and is later arrested by android police officers. That entire episode really had me on my seat. At first I kinda thought the entire book was going to flip on its side but what happened instead was even better. Rickard and the other officer going after the opera singer for the second time=omg. Though provoking

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[Joe Molotov]

I'm about half-way through The Divine Invasion right now. Crazy stuff.

Basically, Jesus' mission on Earth was not successful, and after the fall of Massada to the Romans in 73 AD, God was forced to retreat from Earth by Belial. Belial then sets up a barrier of evil around the Earth to prevent God from returning. God's now living in exile on in a mountain on a planet in a distance solar system. Eventually the planet gets inhabited by humans, and God impregnates a woman on that planet and then sends Elijah to tell her and another man that they are to take the baby and travel back to Earth. The unborn baby will be allowed to slip past Belial's barrier of evil, and eventually reestablish God's domain on Earth, an Earth which is currently controlled by two superpowers of The Christian-Islamic Church and The Scientific Legate, and the A.I. known as Big Noodle.

[Eric P]

and montana is trying to keep us from doing meth

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm about half-way through The Divine Invasion right now. Crazy stuff.

Basically, Jesus' mission on Earth was not successful, and after the fall of Massada to the Romans in 73 AD, God was forced to retreat from Earth by Belial. Belial then sets up a barrier of evil around the Earth to prevent God from returning. God's now living in exile on in a mountain on a planet in a distance solar system. Eventually the planet gets inhabited by humans, and God impregnates a woman on that planet and then sends Elijah to tell her and another man that they are to take the baby and travel back to Earth. The unborn baby will be allowed to slip past Belial's barrier of evil, and eventually reestablish God's domain on Earth, an Earth which is currently controlled by two superpowers of The Christian-Islamic Church and The Scientific Legate, and the A.I. known as Big Noodle.

wtf! I need to read that; it's apart of a trilogy or something right?

[Eric P]

yes with radio free albumuth as the posthumous prequel

[Joe Molotov]

I'm about half-way through The Divine Invasion right now. Crazy stuff.

Basically, Jesus' mission on Earth was not successful, and after the fall of Massada to the Romans in 73 AD, God was forced to retreat from Earth by Belial. Belial then sets up a barrier of evil around the Earth to prevent God from returning. God's now living in exile on in a mountain on a planet in a distance solar system. Eventually the planet gets inhabited by humans, and God impregnates a woman on that planet and then sends Elijah to tell her and another man that they are to take the baby and travel back to Earth. The unborn baby will be allowed to slip past Belial's barrier of evil, and eventually reestablish God's domain on Earth, an Earth which is currently controlled by two superpowers of The Christian-Islamic Church and The Scientific Legate, and the A.I. known as Big Noodle.

wtf! I need to read that; it's apart of a trilogy or something right?

Valis and The Divine Invasion are part of an unfinished trilogy. Radio Free Albermuth was published after PKD's death, and was kind of alternative draft of Valis that he had written.

[Crushed]

I'm about half-way through The Divine Invasion right now. Crazy stuff.

Basically, Jesus' mission on Earth was not successful, and after the fall of Massada to the Romans in 73 AD, God was forced to retreat from Earth by Belial. Belial then sets up a barrier of evil around the Earth to prevent God from returning. God's now living in exile on in a mountain on a planet in a distance solar system. Eventually the planet gets inhabited by humans, and God impregnates a woman on that planet and then sends Elijah to tell her and another man that they are to take the baby and travel back to Earth. The unborn baby will be allowed to slip past Belial's barrier of evil, and eventually reestablish God's domain on Earth, an Earth which is currently controlled by two superpowers of The Christian-Islamic Church and The Scientific Legate, and the A.I. known as Big Noodle.

That sounds like a bizarre ancient astronaut version of C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy.

[Phoenix Dark]

oh god don't remind me of that series

[Crushed]

oh god don't remind me of that series

What's wrong with it? 

[Joe Molotov]

I'm about half-way through The Divine Invasion right now. Crazy stuff.

Basically, Jesus' mission on Earth was not successful, and after the fall of Massada to the Romans in 73 AD, God was forced to retreat from Earth by Belial. Belial then sets up a barrier of evil around the Earth to prevent God from returning. God's now living in exile on in a mountain on a planet in a distance solar system. Eventually the planet gets inhabited by humans, and God impregnates a woman on that planet and then sends Elijah to tell her and another man that they are to take the baby and travel back to Earth. The unborn baby will be allowed to slip past Belial's barrier of evil, and eventually reestablish God's domain on Earth, an Earth which is currently controlled by two superpowers of The Christian-Islamic Church and The Scientific Legate, and the A.I. known as Big Noodle.

That sounds like a bizarre ancient astronaut version of C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy.

The characters actually mention C.S. Lewis and the Space Trilogy at one point in the book. The woman Rybys is trying to convince Asher to read some C.S. Lewis and recommends The Problem of Pain and The Screwtape Letters, and Asher says that he's read Out of the Silent Planet. She asks if he liked it, and he says it okay.

[Phoenix Dark]

oh god don't remind me of that series

What's wrong with it? 

Personally I thought it was boooring. And I like CS Lewis (shhh)

[Eric P]

I'm about half-way through The Divine Invasion right now. Crazy stuff.

Basically, Jesus' mission on Earth was not successful, and after the fall of Massada to the Romans in 73 AD, God was forced to retreat from Earth by Belial. Belial then sets up a barrier of evil around the Earth to prevent God from returning. God's now living in exile on in a mountain on a planet in a distance solar system. Eventually the planet gets inhabited by humans, and God impregnates a woman on that planet and then sends Elijah to tell her and another man that they are to take the baby and travel back to Earth. The unborn baby will be allowed to slip past Belial's barrier of evil, and eventually reestablish God's domain on Earth, an Earth which is currently controlled by two superpowers of The Christian-Islamic Church and The Scientific Legate, and the A.I. known as Big Noodle.

wtf! I need to read that; it's apart of a trilogy or something right?

Valis and The Divine Invasion are part of an unfinished trilogy. Radio Free Albermuth was published after PKD's death, and was kind of alternative draft of Valis that he had written.

i think they're different enough that both should be read

[Joe Molotov]

Spreaking of Radio Free Albermuth, they've made a movie of it starring Alanis Morissette that's coming out this year. Not really holding out much hope for that, but who knows.

[Eric P]

Spreaking of Radio Free Albermuth, they've made a movie of it starring Alanis Morissette that's coming out this year. Not really holding out much hope for that, but who knows.

HA HA

you almost got me

[Phoenix Dark]

Just finished the book. The ending was a bit...anti-climatic but overall I thought the book was amazing. I've already mentioned the stuff I found most interesting/impressive, but I'll say I found so much of it to be quite ironic.

The emphasis on the differences between androids and humans, when in reality many of the androids seemed far more "alive" than the humans, who relied on various artificial creations to make them feel something

The fact that the two dominating figures in peoples lives - Buster and Mercer - are artificial in one way (android) or another (imaginary).

Even though I knew it would be unlikely I kinda wondered if there would be some M Night twist at the end, and Deckard was really android. But while he was definitely human I found it interesting that connection with humanity slowly deteriorated throughout the book.

Now, Blade Runner: I saw it awhile ago, and while I don't remember many details I do remember that it was extremely different from the book. In the film Deckard is possibly android, or is android right? I need to see it again; wasn't impressed on the first viewing, but I'll definitely appreciate it more now that I've read the book