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Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« on: April 14, 2008, 11:32:49 PM »
It's always been the consensus that Grand Theft Auto is a pretty great game. Sure, the shooting mechanics have been busted for a decade and we're still waiting for indoor locations, but each iteration of the series has been a step up. San Andreas is, for me, one of the great works of gaming. The wide open spaces, the mixture of the wacky (Jet pack! F16! Parachutes!) with the serious (Thug life, yo. Race riots.) just seemed to push the primal urge of gaming: Do whatever you want, no consequences. I can't even begin to imagine how many zen-hours I've logged in the Pac-Man cops 'n robbers pursuits.

For all of it's flaws, it always managed to come out on top. But lately you guys just seem so. Down on it. We're all entitled to our own opinons, but the game scratches my itch in such a perverse and exact way that I have trouble really disliking it. I'm psyched out fo my mind for GTA4, a game that could just be a rebuild of SA and I'd still pony up full price. But it sounds like a title that's adressed a lot of the franchise's lingering concerns and yet, instead of being psyched, folks just seem more droll than ever. What gives?
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 11:33:16 PM »
We all played Saints Row
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 11:35:32 PM »
evilbore hates everything
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 11:35:49 PM »
Game will be good but not a mindfuck.

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 11:36:09 PM »
Not true

Evilbore loves Devil May Cry 4, which is undoubtedly game of the year 2008

so far
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2008, 11:36:34 PM »
Oh and Lost Odyssey, but DMC4 trumps it cause its wicked awesome
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 11:38:16 PM »
We all played Saints Row

I think one of the frusturating things about GTA is it's seeming inability to synthesize a good idea. Saint's Row did a lot of shit really well (And some things just terribly) and yet I doubt we'll see many of it's advantages in GAT4. I am hoping to see some of Bully creep in- Bully is a game of great ideas that don't really jive well.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 11:38:27 PM »
:bow saints row :bow2
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 11:39:26 PM »
Well I'm not contributing to the backlash.  I've always hated GTA.

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 11:40:17 PM »
Saints Row is so good. It's the perfect GTA game. I'm going to play it until I swoop a used copy of GTA4.

Then continue playing Saints Row.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 11:44:15 PM »
I mean honestly who's fucking idea was it to make an achievement for rushing through GTA4. Worst game ever? Seems so.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 11:45:03 PM »
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 11:45:45 PM »
Saints Row is so good. It's the perfect GTA game. I'm going to play it until I swoop a used copy of GTA4.

Then continue playing Saints Row.

Saint's Row was good, but there's a lot of shit it doesn't do and the city was pretty boring.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 11:46:16 PM »
Saints Row is so good. It's the perfect GTA game. I'm going to play it until I swoop a used copy of GTA4.

Then continue playing Saints Row.

*fistbump*
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 11:50:49 PM »
Woah, tubular dude, three little niggles and he made a song. I've never encountered bugs in a game before, that totally never happens. I hope he plans an orchestra after playing Rockstar's latest pile, considering they had to delay the thing before it was originally supposed to be released.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2008, 11:52:25 PM »
Heard SR2 isn't coming along too well.

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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2008, 12:00:04 AM »
I really think a lot of the hate has to do with the fact that Himuro loves it so much.

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2008, 12:08:00 AM »
Heard Rman is full of shit. SR2 is GTA:SA done right.

I need to buy the fist one so maybe demi will be my XBL friend.

I'll clarify.  Regarding the recent pre-alpha build it was noted that framerates were unstable.  But again it is pre-alpha.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2008, 12:10:27 AM »
I really think a lot of the hate has to do with the fact that Himuro loves it so much.

It is funny watching him huddle with the gaffots like a child nurtures their mother's bosom

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2008, 12:20:11 AM »
Heard Rman is full of shit. SR2 is GTA:SA done right.

I need to buy the fist one so maybe demi will be my XBL friend.

I'll clarify.  Regarding the recent pre-alpha build it was noted that framerates where unstable.  But again it is pre-alpha.

Frame rate in the final build of SR wasn't great either but that's to be expected.

I love GTA but it's not perfect. Anyone who's played Saints Row would know that. I just hate the untouchable platforms shit like GTA, GT and MGS are put on where they are apparently perfect and if you say anything remotely negative against them then you're some sort of troll.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2008, 12:23:29 AM »
Story Co Op means Sains Row 2 is the free roam game oty for me

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2008, 12:25:14 AM »
If they can pull it off then definitely.

It's funny that Himuro loves GTA so much, it's usually the animu/nintendo fegs who hate it because it "represents everything that's wrong with gaming"
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2008, 12:26:55 AM »
Story Co Op means Sains Row 2 is the free roam game oty for me

Wow, I did not know that. Confirmed? That about wraps it up for GTA4. Saints Row means progress.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2008, 12:28:31 AM »
Heard Rman is full of shit. SR2 is GTA:SA done right.

I need to buy the fist one so maybe demi will be my XBL friend.

I'll clarify.  Regarding the recent pre-alpha build it was noted that framerates where unstable.  But again it is pre-alpha.

Frame rate in the final build of SR wasn't great either but that's to be expected.

I love GTA but it's not perfect. Anyone who's played Saints Row would know that. I just hate the untouchable platforms shit like GTA, GT and MGS are put on where they are apparently perfect and if you say anything remotely negative against them then you're some sort of troll.

You forgot to add Zelda and Mario to that untouchable list.  But, I agree, and I think that why people here have been quick to troll it.  It's not the Second Coming.

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2008, 12:36:43 AM »
Honestly I felt that Saints Row was very good overall, but it lacked that atmosphere that's present in GTA games. The cities in those games felt alive. Saints Row, much less so.

Still, I enjoyed Saints Row.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2008, 12:49:31 AM »
They're feggits. I'm not even bothering to make an official thread here or even discuss the game with anyone  here.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2008, 12:50:20 AM »
Go to the park already.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2008, 12:52:06 AM »
If they can pull it off then definitely.

It's funny that Himuro loves GTA so much, it's usually the animu/nintendo fegs who hate it because it "represents everything that's wrong with gaming"
Don't call me a Nintendofag and unlike most animu fegs, I play more than jrpgs.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2008, 12:54:46 AM »
They're feggits. I'm not even bothering to make an official thread here or even discuss the game with anyone  here.

then fuck off

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It's always been the consensus that Grand Theft Auto is a pretty great game.

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2008, 12:55:42 AM »
They're feggits. I'm not even bothering to make an official thread here or even discuss the game with anyone  here.

then fuck off

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no you fuck off bitch i'm fucking your mother RITE NOW
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2008, 12:58:20 AM »
They're feggits. I'm not even bothering to make an official thread here or even discuss the game with anyone  here.

-there are several people here getting it day 1
-you already made an official thread
-if you'd stop being such a whiner no one would rip on your GTA affection in the first place
-GAF lol

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2008, 12:59:00 AM »
Admiral Viscen when did you defect?
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2008, 12:59:25 AM »
To what?

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2008, 12:59:36 AM »
I like the GTA games, but I never thought that any of them were really really great. The main missions always bored me, so I just drove around wreaking havoc while listening to music. Vice City is still my favorite because of the soundtrack.

Anyway, this will be the first GTA game that I actually buy so maybe I'll spend more time with the main game before I ignore it like the others.

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2008, 12:59:58 AM »
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2008, 01:01:00 AM »
I was on your side when they were dogpiling you for no reason but now you're only here to bitch

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2008, 01:02:02 AM »
o snap
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2008, 01:02:12 AM »
I'm getting it day one, and I will enjoy it. I will probably enjoy Saints Row 2 more since it has Co-OP
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2008, 01:21:46 AM »
It's just a game, Himuro.  Who cares if other posters don't like it.  Like Admiral said most people here including myself are buying/renting it.   

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2008, 01:22:54 AM »
i wonder if i should cancel my gamestop pre order and get it somewhere else...like at a target and get it at midnight
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2008, 01:24:30 AM »
Do they have the special edition swag at Target?  I'm guessing you're getting the duffle bag and all.

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2008, 01:25:19 AM »
i'm not even sure if i am getting it. i may not have the money for the LE. Meh. I may trade in some games in order to get it though, which is something i never do.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2008, 01:32:58 AM »
Why wouldn't GS be doing a midnight launch?

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2008, 01:34:49 AM »
GS will be doing a mid night launch but I don't feel like dealing with lines.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2008, 01:39:40 AM »
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2008, 01:41:11 AM »
evilbore hates everything
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Fuck these jokers ferrarriman. If we made the gta4 thread all there would be is bitching. make an alt gaf account.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2008, 01:43:21 AM »
evilbore hates everything
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Fuck these jokers ferrarriman. If we made the gta4 thread all there would be is bitching. make an alt gaf account.
How could there be bitching when there's this?
[youtube=425,350]QryQ4WX2Wxk[/youtube]

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2008, 01:46:22 AM »
someone made a youtube of that? =/
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2008, 01:47:04 AM »
It's going to be funny when I make a GTA thread and it goes smoothly besides a few knocks on it.

And lol again at GAF

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2008, 02:19:20 AM »
Whoever makes it, I will troll it, biaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2008, 02:25:10 AM »
I don't hate GTA, but I do frown that R* did not fix the biggest problem in GTA3 even though they had two opportunities to do so:  the shit aiming.  It was inexcusable after the first game..

Also, each successive game missed the mark a bit.  Vice City got so much right in setting and music, but its world layout was so much less interesting than GTA3s.  San Andreas is a big pile of ambitious ideas that didn't quite pay off. 

I'll be there on day 1 for this.  The major reason I don't get hyped for GTA4?  I don't let myself get hyped for games anymore.  That leads to inevitable letdown at least nine times out of ten.  Also Crackdown and Saint's Row are better games.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2008, 02:33:43 AM »
:bow Crackdown :bow2

Hopefully the aiming and cover system works
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2008, 03:03:36 AM »
Well, based on what I've read I'm buying it, and I don't give a rat's ass what a bunch of snarky message board jerkoffs think about my purchases.  As far as I'm concerned, if my buying GTA IV bothers anyone that's an entertainment bonus.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2008, 03:57:04 AM »
y'all will backlash against it -- it's what gamenerds do: build ridiculous hype, then tear it down

me, i just don't bother to get excited until i actually have the game

(and even then i just toss it on the backlog)
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2008, 04:04:02 AM »
evilbore hates everything
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Fuck these jokers ferrarriman. If we made the gta4 thread all there would be is bitching. make an alt gaf account.

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2008, 04:09:57 AM »
ive deliberately stayed away from everything but the trailers for this game so i cant be over-hyped by it
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2008, 04:15:56 AM »
I'll get this when it's like $20 somewhere so I don't feel as bad when I play it for an hour and then go back to strategy gaming on my PC.

I don't hate the game, it just doesn't do anything for me.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2008, 11:52:47 AM »
ive deliberately stayed away from everything but the trailers for this game so i cant be over-hyped by it

I've only seen one of the trailers, the first one I think.

Did they bring back the thing from VC where you buy all the different businesses and they earn money for you? That was my favorite part of the PS2 series.

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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2008, 12:02:26 PM »
ive deliberately stayed away from everything but the trailers for this game so i cant be over-hyped by it

I've only seen one of the trailers, the first one I think.

Did they bring back the thing from VC where you buy all the different businesses and they earn money for you? That was my favorite part of the PS2 series.

Fuck no. IV isn't about going from low life to rich kingpin.
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Re: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate?
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2008, 12:04:27 PM »
I don't give a fuck about the lame story, I just want the return of fun gameplay elements.