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Its official: New PoP game coming soon.
« on: April 22, 2008, 08:11:22 PM »
More at ubidays 2008

http://prince-of-persia.us.ubi.com/home.php

I bet theres more dark prince shit too. I want them to go back to Sands of time so badly.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2008, 08:12:04 PM »
prince of persia: the tar babies
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2008, 08:51:04 PM »
Whee!

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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 01:09:41 AM »
some translation:

- Prince feels Amano-inspired. Looks like a celluloid/animated character (a bit like SFIV). The style itself is still in progress.
- Corrupted world needs to be healed.
- Story is much more "1001 Nights"-like, more fantasy, less grounded in reality but instead more magical yet still credible, more poetic.
- Player must unleash light-wells to heal the corrupted world, which shoots light into the sky.
- The transformation of the world is in real-time, with plants growing back to life as the world heals back and as the player can still move, instead of a mere cutscene, sky changes back to its normal color, etc., to give a strong sense of control and success to the player.
- No more time rewind and such.
- They are no making a second Assassin's Creed, they are making a new PoP.
- Art style was difficult pass through the management, but they never refused it, and eventually loved it.
- Story specifically: Orhmaz and Arhiman, twin gods, one good one evil, celestial battle, Orhmaz locks Arhiman away in a box which he hides into an faraway oasis deep within a desert. Centuries pass, and comes a troublesome thief (the prince) and Arhiman is freed somehow (not deep explanation given). Prince must undo his mistake. This is what they refer to as a more "1001 Nights" kind of story, like a fable.
- More open/organic environments. Has a Zelda-esque feel, old-school in themes.
- Bosses/player use backgrounds during fights (one shot shows an enemy pushing the prince against a wall as if trying to choke him, or another throwing him in the air).
- Game went through a few iterations; originally too open (felt big but not enough to do), at one point it was more like Assassin as far as open world (going where you want), but players would get lost and wander aimlessly and dynamism suffered as a result. Now instead it is more focussed with a clear road, but multiple paths can be taken (free to move from one map to another, back and forth, etc., more open than previous PoPs).
- The demo map shown to the journalist, old of a few months, has been scrapped design-wise because it was too Assassin-like, now it's more fantasy design-wise.
- Game world is made of nodes connected by paths, and you can go from one node to another as you wish (this is what they mean by less open, but non-linear; you can see the paths, but you don't have to going from A to B to C). The game adapts as a result (enemies from later visited locations might be more difficult, etc., for example zone A might be more difficult if you access it at the end, but if you accessed it at the beginning then it is easier, even bosses, depending on what order you fight them, adapt as such).
- Prince can slide along any walls using his glove. Game is as much vertical as horizontal.
- Prince has more possibilities of movement.
- Bosses inspired by MGS' boss quality; they are fewer but they have a story, a reason to be, they leave more of an impression on the player. Some are former nobles, sometimes acting against their will.
- They wondered if they should make just more enemies and try to do a God of War game and try to beat it on its own ground, or go for something different. They went with fewer enemies instead and a new combat style. Combats are duels. You can see the expression on the faces of the characters/bosses. Movement/action in fights is more like Advent Children, more cinematic in presentation.
- 140 people working on it, more to come, people from many projects.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10964460&postcount=253

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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 01:10:10 AM »
cel shadedish :bow

awesome looking
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2008, 01:16:32 AM »
I believe the expression is "holy fuck".

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 01:54:54 AM »
nice.  Hopefully I don't get locked into another shitty trilogy though. 

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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 02:50:24 AM »
uploaded better scans.

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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2008, 02:56:22 AM »
holy fuck, this looks gooooooood
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2008, 03:02:14 AM »
haha, I was coming into the thread to say 'who cares' but this looks really good. I like the Prince design
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2008, 04:47:32 AM »
You know in motion it's gonna look a heck of a lot better. Assassin's Creed am cry.

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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2008, 04:57:42 AM »
Good to see that they're veering away from the Sands trilogy and doing something different. I didn't expect them to go cel shaded which I'm sure will look amazing with PoP's always impressive attention to animation. Any idea on whether or not Mechner is involved with this?
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2008, 06:26:35 PM »
<- reluctantly optimistic

Nice visuals but really need to 1) see it in motion 2) get a better idea of the settings 3) see how it plays
before making any kind of real judgement.

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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2008, 07:00:38 PM »
i'm confused

how does this tie into gta4 exactly?
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2008, 09:41:39 PM »
Hopefully it's not angst-ridden.

I'm really glad they seem to be taking it in a new(ish) direction.

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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2008, 09:44:55 PM »
Cel shading.  :-\

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2008, 11:02:22 PM »


At least it'll be better than Assasin's Creed.

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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2008, 11:15:58 PM »
Nice visuals but really need to 1) see it in motion
It's Prince of Persia, a series know for its animation. It's going to look sick in motion.
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2008, 11:18:49 PM »
Assassin's Creed fooled everyone with how good it looked in those early gameplay videos.  This new PoP will be better just because it'll take more than leaning an analog stick to navigate puzzles.

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2008, 11:31:18 PM »
At least it'll be better than Assasin's Creed.

Better than GOTY2007?  :hyper

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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2008, 11:34:51 PM »
Cel shading.  :-\

Eat a dick, nintard, cel-shading is in now, didnt you play Twilight Shitcess
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2008, 11:46:04 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2008, 10:45:50 AM »
Quote from: arhra
PoP details - 8-page preview, lots and lots of concept art, a few small screens, tons of text:

Based on the same engine as Assassin's Creed (but split off 18 months ago to be adapted as necessary for this game). Art style is described as "Fantasy, but credible". Not many screenshots, and the ones they do have are fairly small, but it looks pretty damn good to me. Character models are beautifully cel-shaded, and incredibly detailed (moreso than Altair in AC, apparently). More polys in his hair alone than in the entire model for the Prince last-gen. The concept artwork shown is, of course, fantastic.

Open world, not linear levels... but they later say that it's not free-roaming, and then half a sentence later say it's entirely non-linear... ah, then they clear it up: it's non-linear in that you can clear the various sections of the world in any order you like, but the platforming elements are classic PoP:SoT-style linear platforming sections, not an Assassin's Creed-style sandbox (they apparently decided on this because with a more open sandbox, playtesters were performing bursts of acrobatics, then pausing to decide where to go next, rather than the longer, flowing sequences they wanted). Later on they talk about various iterations they tried of the open-world concept - one was an Assassin's Creed-style fully open sandbox, another was a more zelda-style overworld-hub with dungeons branching off, and the final one they settled on sounds like it's somewhere in-between the two.

Completely new story, with a new Prince, not a sequel to the SoT series at all. Centers around Zoroastrian mythology - a struggle between the gods of light and darkness, Ohrmazd and Ahriman, and starts out with the Prince seeing the legendary Tree of Life destroyed, which threatens to plunge the entire world into eternal darkness (etc, etc). The land has been corrupted, and the major gameplay element/mission structure, such as it is, revolves around cleansing this corruption. Apparently they've done some clever technical jiggery-pokery that allows them to switch between corrupted and cleansed versions of the world on a fine-grained basis, so that you always get a sense that you've personally cleansed a particular area, rather than just pressing a button somewhere and having the entire landscape change around you.

Also, rather than just allowing the player to cleanse the various areas in whatever order they feel like and that being it, they're structuring it so that when you cleanse an area, all the remaining areas get harder, so there's still a difficulty curve despite the non-linearity.

Combat is purely one-on-one, challenging duels vs a single, threatening opponent, rather than the increasingly large/intricate brawls of the SoT series. They don't want to compete with God of War, or Ninja Gaiden, so they're going in a different direction. Influences on the combat are listed as being Errol Flynn, Final Fantasy: Advent Children, and The Princess Bride (along with unlisted others). Strategic use of the environment matters, both for offense and defense (and for both you and your opponent). "Every fight in the game should feel like a boss fight". Often won't actually kill your opponent, just drive him off (and they'll come back for more later).

Oh, and there's one more secret to reveal, that is apparently fundamental to literally everything in the game... but Ubisoft aren't talking about it yet. And they won't say whether or not it's going to be the beginning of a new trilogy (would anyone really bet against that, though?).

Coming to 360, PS3, and PC, with a "complementary" DS game as well (that isn't a sequel/prequel, but is "connected to the game in a very interesting way" and is "certainly not a port"). No Wii version planned (and in their own words: "you would never see a port of the game we're making"), but Two Thrones Wii showed a lot of potential (despite being a quick and dirty port, in their own wors) and there are people very seriously looking into the possibilities of a PoP game of some description on the Wii.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11008284&postcount=148

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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2008, 08:05:28 PM »
Ok, now that I've closed my useless thread...

These look fuck-awesome.  I especially like that the shadows appear to be not as blocky as those in Assassin's Creed.

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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2008, 08:07:21 PM »
you didn't need to close your thread, really.

as for the visuals, it's look like a combination of assassin's creed and naruto rise of ninja, awesome shit.

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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2008, 08:09:21 PM »
if we're leaving this thread open, somebody needs to change the topic

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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2008, 08:12:42 PM »
Looks great so far. I can't wait to see how it animates.

And in other related news, Persian actor Jake Gyllenhaal has been casted to play the Prince in the new movie!  ::)
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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2008, 08:13:40 PM »
If this really makes it out this year, holiday '08 finally has a game I'm looking forward to!

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« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2008, 08:13:47 PM »
Bildi: it says they're not making a second AC :(

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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2008, 08:41:13 PM »
you didn't need to close your thread, really.

Eh, better in one place.

Bildi: it says they're not making a second AC :(

WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT?  Where does it say that?

:( indeed.

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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2008, 08:47:16 PM »
woooow

that's impressive
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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2008, 08:50:26 PM »
you didn't need to close your thread, really.

Eh, better in one place.

Bildi: it says they're not making a second AC :(

WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT?  Where does it say that?

:( indeed.

Surely that means: This game we are making is not going to be an Assassin's Creed game using the PoP name. It's going to be it's own thing. AC will have its sequel, I'll bet my left nut on it.
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« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2008, 11:19:37 PM »
Outlines are too thick.  :-X :-\

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« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2008, 11:23:45 PM »
That looks really nice, I'm impressed.
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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2008, 11:26:03 PM »
That's sexy. I want more games with that semi-cellshaded look. Fuck trying to look realistic.

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« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2008, 11:47:16 PM »
you didn't need to close your thread, really.

Eh, better in one place.

Bildi: it says they're not making a second AC :(

WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT?  Where does it say that?

:( indeed.

Surely that means: This game we are making is not going to be an Assassin's Creed game using the PoP name. It's going to be it's own thing. AC will have its sequel, I'll bet my left nut on it.
I hope so.  I mean, AC did sell like 5 million copies

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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2008, 11:51:28 PM »
Looks like I'll finally be buying another PoP game, it looks pretty fucking great.

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« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2008, 11:52:23 PM »
That looks incredible. Like something out of a French or Belgian comic book.
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« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2008, 01:37:39 AM »
That looks pretty great; very clean and striking. Although, I don't trust Ubi with screens, so we'll see.

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« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2008, 02:08:47 AM »
Oh my god... that looks awesome. If that's actual, untouched screenshots (Who am I kidding? Of course they've gone through the photochop!) I'd probably pick it up for aesthetics alone.

Wow.  :drool

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« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2008, 12:16:32 PM »
looks awesome, glad they went a whole new route with the art direction.  straight up crackdown type shit. 
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« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2008, 10:16:48 PM »
Now THAT is how cellshading should be used.
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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2008, 10:18:11 PM »
Now THAT is how cellshading should be used.

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As you can see from the screenshots, Prince of Persia is a complete visual departure from the previous titles. It is not cel-shaded. Ubisoft calls its look "illustrative." Where cel-shading tends to look flat, POP looks in every way three-dimensional and there is an impressive amount of detail. This stylized look is more like watching a painting come to life.

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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2008, 10:30:20 PM »
Now someone needs to make and action-RPG with graphics like Keith Parkinson's artwork!!!  :-*
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« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2008, 11:50:01 PM »
Weird, I thought this was Prince Of Persia, not "Prince Of Caucasia."

Also it looks like an anime rip-off, lolz.
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« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2008, 12:02:26 AM »
Persians are caucasians.

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Native people of Iran are White caucasian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples

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« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2008, 12:09:40 AM »
(Image removed from quote.)

Yum.  Clearly she hasn't been to Namco's "Slut-It-Up School".

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« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2008, 12:13:18 AM »
Persians are caucasians.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples
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« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2008, 12:14:22 AM »
Persians are caucasians.

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Native people of Iran are White caucasian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples

ME AM JOKING.   :lol  The Prince looks like he got "VF5 Vanessa'd" though.

But if you want to get into it, I worked for Iranians for nine years.  The shopping plaza I worked at had a lot of Persian shops.  I dealt with a lot of Persian customers.  No one looked like that. 
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« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2008, 12:16:24 AM »
honestly he looks like irani/lebanon singer.

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« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2008, 12:18:12 AM »


He got lighter.  That's all I'm saying.
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« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2008, 12:25:13 AM »
DARK AND HARCDORE

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« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2008, 12:40:07 AM »
I still like the original version of the game the best.  Played it on Apple II. 


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« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2008, 11:33:16 AM »
Looks great, hopefully it will play like Sands of Time with less intrusive combat. I loved Sands of Time.
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« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2008, 07:14:43 AM »
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Yum.  Clearly she hasn't been to Namco's "Slut-It-Up School".
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