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GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« on: April 23, 2008, 04:11:42 AM »
'Cause I'm fucking lazy and don't feel like looking through 40+ pages fanboy forum threads, which version is supposed to be the best?  I know the game is getting exclusive DLC on 360 but I doubt I'll care about the game at that point. 
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 04:14:50 AM »
the game isn't out lyte.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2008, 04:15:13 AM »
PS3 has a 5 min install. Both systems have minute colour differences related to their display output.

I think that's it.
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2008, 04:24:07 AM »
PC?

Except for GTA3, which I got for the PS2 in the 1st month of its release, I've always waited for the PC versions.  The better framerate, higher resolution and faster loading times are well worth the wait. 


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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2008, 04:25:08 AM »
PC?

Except for GTA3, which I got for the PS2 in the 1st month of its release, I've always waited for the PC versions.  The better framerate, higher resolution and faster loading times are well worth the wait. 


old man, pc is dead.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2008, 04:25:33 AM »
Your brain is dead, McFaggot. 

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 04:27:47 AM »
fucking doctors.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2008, 04:31:32 AM »
Why do you think we charge you $50 for a flu visit even when all we do is tell you to get some sleep and water? 

It's to buy expensive upgrades for our gaming PCs. 

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2008, 04:32:20 AM »
360 for the exclusive DLC and the online community.  If you don't really care about either, then it's a coin toss.
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2008, 04:35:25 AM »
360 cause im too busy watching blurays and playing MLB The Show 08 to bother getting GTA4 PS3
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2008, 04:38:19 AM »
I've never had much of an interest in the GTA games, but I have to say what I've read about the MP sounds really, really inventive.
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2008, 04:42:51 AM »
ps3 because
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2008, 04:51:27 AM »
I've never had much of an interest in the GTA games, but I have to say what I've read about the MP sounds really, really inventive.

Eh, I'll try it, but I get the feeling it will be back to the FPS games soon enough.  I'm leaning towards the PS3 version since it would give the console some USE.  Plus I have all that HD space available.
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2008, 04:51:38 AM »
ps3 version is the official choice of sam houser and various unnamed rockstar employees who spoke to andrew pfister -- those are some PRETTY COMPELLING ENDORSEMENTS

$50 mil doesn't go as far as it used to :usacry

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2008, 04:53:35 AM »
ps3 version is the official choice of sam houser and various unnamed rockstar employees who spoke to andrew pfister -- those are some PRETTY COMPELLING ENDORSEMENTS

$50 mil doesn't go as far as it used to :usacry

Well, you sold me. 
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2008, 04:54:18 AM »
doesnt matter, its a rental either way
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2008, 04:55:00 AM »
I'll go with whatever version Deadmeat chooses.  He seems to be the expert on such matters. 

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2008, 05:59:41 AM »
Buy both!

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2008, 06:41:28 AM »
PS3, superior version (confirmed by rockstar, skip and sam houser himself)
no dre or rrod
no xfags online
free online
superior something something

15 million people bought GTA3-SA

~1 million bought LC and VC stories so even less will care about the DLC

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2008, 08:29:16 AM »
360 version. I'm gonna roll the dice everytime I boot and enjoy my achievements and multiplayer with actual friends.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2008, 09:10:55 AM »
but they'll buy GTA in their droves on PS3?

yes

3 to 1 in favor of ps3 version in the uk

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2008, 09:17:33 AM »
it doesn't really matter but i think the ps3 version would be better because:

-the system won't crash in 2 - 3 years which means you'll be able to play the game without buying a new system
-when the ps4 comes out you'll probably be able to play ps3 games
-(to lyte) you barely have any ps3 games anyway and the collection needs a little help and expansion
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2008, 10:09:52 AM »
360, mostly for the DLC and people that I play online with are getting that version.
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2008, 11:18:21 AM »
360 version for me.  I still am the only one of my friends with a PS3BLURAYmovie player so definitely have to have the 360 for multiplayer.
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2008, 11:25:41 AM »
360 version. It will be COD all over again where ill play online more than the single player anyways. And XBL is where its at.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2008, 11:34:28 AM »
360, i'm not dumb
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2008, 11:51:14 AM »
Dont tell Wollan that Kev youl break his heart.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2008, 12:29:28 PM »
alas i love another console
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2008, 12:36:44 PM »
PS3, superior version (confirmed by rockstar, skip and sam houser himself)
no dre or rrod
no xfags online
free online
superior something something

15 million people bought GTA3-SA

~1 million bought LC and VC stories so even less will care about the DLC


bwahahahahah don't ever change, fucko.
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2008, 03:12:32 PM »
ps3 version is the official choice of sam houser and various unnamed rockstar employees who spoke to andrew pfister -- those are some PRETTY COMPELLING ENDORSEMENTS

$50 mil doesn't go as far as it used to :usacry

these "compelling endorsements" boil down to "the color looks better" and "man, i wish ms woulda made the hd standard across skus"

if you can't muster a better endorsement -- even a "i like the temporal aa better than actual 2x aa" or a "it has 60 fps cutscenes" type of low-wattage preference -- i suspect shenanigans

shenanigans of the sort that suggest rockstar doesn't wanna cripple sales among internet sony fans by talking about the real state of the ps3 port

but what do i know, i am totally xtarded
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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2008, 03:29:55 PM »
tbh i'll be surprised if the ps3 version isn't a bit worse, 360 being 'lead platform' and all. but it's pretty fucking funny that microsoft's big payout didn't buy positive mentions from rockstar staff, prominent logo placements in the ads, the sort of platform focus that some devs give microsoft FOR FREE, or any immediate content difference -- 'you can buy some sort of expansion in the fall' is a pretty cold fish. that sort of money used to buy exclusivity.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2008, 03:39:32 PM »
Didn't Square and Konami supposedly offer ports of FF and MGS to MS for big sums of money?  If those reports were true, it's no wonder that MS considered Rockstar's $50 mill fee to be a bargain. 


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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2008, 03:46:21 PM »
tbh i'll be surprised if the ps3 version isn't a bit worse, 360 being 'lead platform' and all. but it's pretty fucking funny that microsoft's big payout didn't buy positive mentions from rockstar staff, prominent logo placements in the ads, the sort of platform focus that some devs give microsoft FOR FREE, or any immediate content difference -- 'you can buy some sort of expansion in the fall' is a pretty cold fish. that sort of money used to buy exclusivity.

why would rockstar bother? they could maximize sales on both platforms (xfans are going to obviously disregard whatever anyone says about ps3 anyway, lol) and let MS and Sony pay for their advertising campaigns.

companies like namco and ubisoft that do the moneyhat thing and then are awkward and cagey when asked about other platforms end up with ports like Splinter Cell Double Agent and Ace Combat bombas. the moneyhat for ac6 must have been purdy nice. game sold like 80k at launch and then dropped.
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2008, 03:49:23 PM »
Sounds like the PS3 version is the way to go due to better load times and on-screen graphics due to the install.

Unless you want the DLC.
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2008, 03:51:54 PM »
i think the 360 has the optional install

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2008, 05:50:30 PM »

I'll get it on 360 for the DLC, but I can't answer the actual questions in the OP about which one technically runs better.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2008, 05:55:28 PM »
X360 version cannot have jaggies.

If there are jaggies, then it's the PSX3 version.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2008, 05:56:17 PM »
360, because I do not own a PS3.  Lick my balls Calcifier.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2008, 06:08:42 PM »
360

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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2008, 06:09:28 PM »
360, because I do not own a PS3.  Lick my balls Calcifier.
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« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2008, 06:10:16 PM »
360 version here.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2008, 09:06:54 PM »
Exclusive review from OA Mina:



Long story short.

GTAIV has the COD4 effect. Looks the same on both consoles until you start looking for nit-picky things.

Firstly the game looks pretty ace for a GTA game, but it's not the best looking game on either console. I can prolly name many games that *look* as good or better, but that doesn't mean this game looks bad in any way. It would help you if you judge this game from previous GTA games in terms of visuals, because the effect is much better that away instead of comparing it to say, Gears or Drake. At times GTA4 looks stunning, and at times it looks a bit average. It really depends on the condition of where you're at and the lighting/texturing of the scene you're in.

But to make up for some of the graphics, the sense of scale is very nice and invites you to dick around in the large open playground they set for you. One of the things you notice is how populated the world is, with lots of movement and *life* to it. Definitely much better than previous GTA's as well as previous GTA clones. Traffic looks, feels and reacts like traffic should. This A.I. traffic looks like it they're actually driving for a reason and not just cruising in and out of the scene just because -- so yes, it's quite convincing. Driving around in a vehicle is much like previous GTA, and perhaps it's just been awhile since I played a GTA, but I thought the controls were more responsive this time around (also coulda been the vehicles I driven around). In a way, it reminded me a lot of Crazy Taxi 1, just with actual damage. Driving around causing trouble has always been the best of GTA for me and this does things MUCH better. Plus it seems you get into a lot of trouble much faster than before. =)

What really sets the game are the animations and physics. There are moments of stiffness and poorly blended animations here and there, but for the most part everyone and everything moves fluidly. Things tend to react how they should, some things don't. It *appears* you can crash into almost any object and it will cause a reaction, and sometimes you can smash into something at Warp 5 and nothing happens 'cept your car gets totaled. I guess fully destructible environments ain't happening this time huh? That's ok, it's not a big deal and you'll get over it.

The controls are subjective on this one. Both console controls seem to be pretty tight and responsive. It's all gonna depend on how you like your analogs spaced and if you want rumble outta the box.

I couldn't tell you which version loaded faster or not as the game was already being played when I showed up for the lunch party. smile.gif I also didn't ask if there was any mandatory installs or if the PS3 version was running of the HDD. Sorry.

So which version is *superior*?

Well as I said before, it's the COD4 effect. At first glance they look the same with their small differences. 360 looks sharper, higher-res in some areas. Coming up to some objects will reveal that, also things at a distance look a bit more defined too. They both suffer from framerate issues, tho it looks like the 360 is handling it better when it comes to more populated areas (people, traffic, etc). The pop-up/fade in isn't too distracting, I do admit that is DOES show in both versions, but it doesn't look to be more or less on either console.

Lighting seems about the same, honestly I was looking at texturing more than lighting to notice it too much. =p But there were some parts on the PS3 version where things look like it was pre-baked with lights/shadows... it had that faked Heavenly Sword look to it where you know they did some *tricks* to make something appear at least statically, because they couldn't get it dynamically and it loses it's richness. As for the "softness" and "warmth" of the PS3 rendering that was talked about earlier, it makes things appear smooth but it's like putting turtle wax on a low res texture. It has that soft upscaled look to it that most of you console-ers should be used to by now, and looks like some filtering was used to clean it up a bit, if not *hide* it. I don't know if it's being upscaled, but it just has that look to it.

So unless you're as nitpicky as I am and don't care about the differences, each version is good to good depending on your choice of control pads and whether or not you want the extra DLC on the 360.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2008, 09:08:57 PM »
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I don't know if it's being upscaled, but it just has that look to it.

wtf
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2008, 09:10:44 PM »
triple six oh

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« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2008, 09:11:34 PM »
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I don't know if it's being upscaled, but it just has that look to it.

wtf
translation: mina ain't sure if it's 720 native.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2008, 09:14:55 PM »
More from Minakke:

"Gunplay? Run click-point-tap or tap-tap-tap. Marginal improvement."

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2008, 09:55:16 PM »
heavenly sword has one of the most dynamic and least 'prebaked' lighting systems of any game this gen. mina don't know sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit </claydavis>

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2008, 09:57:43 PM »
heavenly sword has one of the most dynamic and least 'prebaked' lighting systems of any game this gen. mina don't know sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit </claydavis>
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2008, 09:58:33 PM »
tbh i'll be surprised if the ps3 version isn't a bit worse, 360 being 'lead platform' and all. but it's pretty fucking funny that microsoft's big payout didn't buy positive mentions from rockstar staff, prominent logo placements in the ads, the sort of platform focus that some devs give microsoft FOR FREE, or any immediate content difference -- 'you can buy some sort of expansion in the fall' is a pretty cold fish. that sort of money used to buy exclusivity.

The best part would be if the game ends up selling less than it did last gen, which would be reasonable considering the lower userbases and the decline in popularity that's expected going from one generation to the next. Course, then again, Halo 3 and CoD4...

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2008, 10:00:23 PM »
More from Minakke:

"Gunplay? Run click-point-tap or tap-tap-tap. Marginal improvement."

Himurowned again

Disappointment-ton.
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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2008, 10:03:27 PM »
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leopold or harold?

in any case heavenly sword was supposed to have an effect where the time of day changed as you did super moves, but this turned out to be confusing, and it was a PITA for the artists, so they axed it. but they kept the fully dynamic lighting engine -- that's why the shadows are so low-res.

all of mina's 'technical' claims sound like the kind of reverse reasoning that goes on here -- 'deadmeat sez rsx budget gpu, so there must be something technically wrong with all ps3 games, even when they obviously kill the ugly 360 games i apologize for.' again, i'll be surprised if the ps3 version comes out ahead, but i'm waiting for comparisons from eurogamer/b3d/the few gafers who know their shit

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2008, 10:04:34 PM »
heavenly sword has one of the most dynamic and least 'prebaked' lighting systems of any game this gen. mina don't know sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit </claydavis>
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Drinky says the same things about HS though.

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #52 on: April 23, 2008, 10:09:56 PM »
 :lol

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« Reply #53 on: April 23, 2008, 10:16:46 PM »
None. 

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2008, 10:30:46 PM »
heavenly sword has one of the most dynamic and least 'prebaked' lighting systems of any game this gen. mina don't know sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit </claydavis>
BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Drinky says the same things about HS though.

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heavenly sword actually has a fully dynamic sun and moon system that they coded into the game but eventually decided not to use

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2008, 10:33:27 PM »
oa budget xbots :gloomy

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2008, 10:34:39 PM »
A great sacrifice was made to get GTA4 running on PSX3, Rockstar basically turned off shader and switched to 16 bit rendering.  :-X

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #57 on: April 23, 2008, 10:44:26 PM »
Sorry, Y2KEV, I only have faith in the Xfag Royalty. 

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2008, 10:45:45 PM »
oa budget xbots :gloomy

FYI, Mina called out what was better about COD4 and Assasin's Creed while Neogaf was tossing each other's salad over the 'superiority' of the PS3 versions.


Let me find it.....

ASS Creed impressions
http://opa-ages.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2363&hl=

COD4
http://opa-ages.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2110&hl=
« Last Edit: April 23, 2008, 10:50:22 PM by FancyFeast »

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Re: GTA4: PS3 or 360?
« Reply #59 on: April 23, 2008, 10:51:30 PM »
Sorry, Y2KEV, I only have faith in the Xfag Royalty. 

well it was posted by the game's developer on gaf, sony cambridge ninja theory

look, there is no doubt in my mind this game will be better on 360. I have the reserve for the 360 version. but you have to check your sources lol
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