Author Topic: Is Deus Ex still awesome? (Read 3255 times)

AdmiralViscen · « **on:** May 17, 2008, 09:22:49 PM »

I dicked around with it at a friend's house a long time ago, but I never owned it myself. $10 on Steam, should I?

Solo · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2008, 09:29:44 PM »

Best game ever made to me. Hell yes its worth it, provided you can look past the dated visuals, wonky shooting mechanics, and braindead AI.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2008, 09:32:31 PM »

What's wonky about it? I'm cool with the rest, I have a Wii

Solo · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2008, 09:35:58 PM »

The aiming is really floaty.

Draft · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2008, 09:43:58 PM »

Yup.

Like all old FPS games, it's got some control and UI issues, stuff we dealt with back in the day but wouldn't tolerate from the worst shovelware now, but I say go for it.

My favorite old PC game.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2008, 09:44:26 PM »

He's even more used to that, I'd imagine.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2008, 09:48:24 PM »

lol

I guess I'll get it

TVC15 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2008, 09:56:19 PM »

Keep in mind that the first level is pretty much the worst part of the game.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2008, 09:59:40 PM »

It's not exactly cutting-edge anymore, but if you're looking for some fun cyberpunk RPG goodness, then Deus Ex is what you're looking for.

I've played it a few hours recently and it still holds up fairly well.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2008, 10:00:37 PM »

I played it through two years ago, and the only thing that seemed really antiquated was the UI. Everything else was still pure gold, and it (along with System Shock 2 and Thief 2) is definitely still worth playing if you haven't played it yet. The plot, especially, is still somewhat remarkable for its degree of being "way out there" while still being compelling and making sense. And very few games to this date have done the whole " your decisions have repercussions " as well as Deus Ex did.

Another note-at least give Invisible War a try when you are done with Deus Ex. It's not a bad game and also still holds up pretty well, though it is clearly not the legendary game its progenitor was.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2008, 10:01:41 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on May 17, 2008, 09:56:19 PM

Keep in mind that the first level is pretty much the worst part of the game.

I think I'm the only one who liked the Liberty Island level. I played it through like a big crazy Thief 2 mission and it worked out OK (well, most of the time).

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2008, 10:07:41 PM »

I was about to click Buy when my g/f signed online, I'll download it later or this week.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2008, 10:12:17 PM »

There are also numerous bugs and glitches, and as others have said, it really is just plain outdated. In some ways. In terms of exploration, made very rewarding due to the skill system and the richness of the game world, I'd argue that it's still fairly unchallenged. Deus Ex hasn't been the stepping stone I thought it would be, and that's a shame. You're given a lot of options in how you tackle various scenarios, and yeah... it's still pretty amazing. Although I wonder if I'd feel the same about it if I hadn't played it back in the day.

Quote from: Fragamemnon on May 17, 2008, 10:01:41 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on May 17, 2008, 09:56:19 PM
Keep in mind that the first level is pretty much the worst part of the game.

I think I'm the only one who liked the Liberty Island level. I played it through like a big crazy Thief 2 mission and it worked out OK (well, most of the time).

I liked it a lot, but not during my first playthrough. That was just a confused mess, and I had no idea what type of game it was. The second run, though, that was amazing.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2008, 10:17:08 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 17, 2008, 09:59:40 PM

It's not exactly cutting-edge anymore, but if you're looking for some fun cyberpunk RPG goodness, then Deus Ex is what you're looking for.

I've played it a few hours recently and it still holds up fairly well.

I disagree with this, that it's not "cutting-edge". While playing Bioshock, I marveled first at the incredible world that the developer had designed, and then at how much of a step backwards it was from Deus Ex, which still feels like its pretty much alone in its class. Alpha Protocol, on the other hand, seems to be built on the "right" stuff.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #14 on:** May 17, 2008, 10:21:41 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on May 17, 2008, 10:17:08 PM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 17, 2008, 09:59:40 PM
It's not exactly cutting-edge anymore, but if you're looking for some fun cyberpunk RPG goodness, then Deus Ex is what you're looking for.

I've played it a few hours recently and it still holds up fairly well.

I disagree with this, that it's not "cutting-edge". While playing Bioshock, I marveled first at the incredible world that the developer had designed, and then at how much of a step backwards it was from Deus Ex, which still feels like its pretty much alone in its class. Alpha Protocol, on the other hand, seems to be built on the "right" stuff.

I meant more in terms of presentation and graphics, although it doesn't look bad by any means.

The gameplay is still really good and I don't think a game quite like it has come out since.

Scurvy Stan · « **Reply #15 on:** May 17, 2008, 10:52:21 PM »

It came free on a DVD from CGM a year or two ago. Good game. Need patience for it though and it looks like absolute ass by today's standards. Just keep in mind what year it was made and it's still a good time.

Mondain · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2008, 12:01:51 AM »

best game of all time

and the opening Liberty Island level was my favorite level in the whole game

Draft · « **Reply #17 on:** May 18, 2008, 12:18:57 AM »

Hong Kong was my favorite level. Best music too.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #18 on:** May 18, 2008, 12:22:49 AM »

I thought it was a bit dated when I tried to play it again last year, but if you've never played it it's more than worth the $10.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2008, 01:02:55 AM »

Isn't there a hi res texture pack somewhere? Does it work?

MedievalManIII · « **Reply #20 on:** May 18, 2008, 01:39:19 AM »

My saves got corrupted at JC Denton's brother's apartment. I should pick it up from Steam and try to finish it again, but I don't want to go through some hours of gameplay again. I had a complete blast with it during my time with it, though, so go ahead and pick it up.

Hi-res glory: http://offtopicproductions.com/hdtp/

TVC15 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 18, 2008, 04:59:55 AM »

Quote from: Fragamemnon on May 17, 2008, 10:00:37 PM

I played it through two years ago, and the only thing that seemed really antiquated was the UI. Everything else was still pure gold, and it (along with System Shock 2 and Thief 2) is definitely still worth playing if you haven't played it yet. The plot, especially, is still somewhat remarkable for its degree of being "way out there" while still being compelling and making sense. And very few games to this date have done the whole " your decisions have repercussions " as well as Deus Ex did.

I'm not sure antiquated is the right word for the UI. That UI NEVER seemed good. Saying it's antiquated implies that it was at one point satisfactory.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #22 on:** May 18, 2008, 05:03:53 AM »

Quote from: Mondain on May 18, 2008, 12:01:51 AM

best game of all time

and the opening Liberty Island level was my favorite level in the whole game

lol wut

disgruntled_jojo · « **Reply #23 on:** May 18, 2008, 12:16:11 PM »

Quote from: Fragamemnon on May 17, 2008, 10:01:41 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on May 17, 2008, 09:56:19 PM
Keep in mind that the first level is pretty much the worst part of the game.

I think I'm the only one who liked the Liberty Island level. I played it through like a big crazy Thief 2 mission and it worked out OK (well, most of the time).

Same, you are not alone. I was stealth-focused for the majority of the game, and really liked the LI level.

Also, I definitely agree with the poster above who mentioned that the first level was the worst.

Solo · « **Reply #24 on:** May 18, 2008, 02:21:14 PM »

Liberty Island and Paris are the only two subpar areas in the game. Once you hit Hong Kong, the game hits "OMFG best game evar!" stratosphere.

Also, agreed about the music. Best game ever featuring the best videogame score ever? Yes sir!

What is everyone's preferred ending?

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Im partial to the New Dark Age one myself. Im always down for pushing the reset button on all of humanity, plus Tracer Tong rocks.

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AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #25 on:** May 21, 2008, 02:24:21 PM »

The training level of this game is already better than many other games

duckman2000 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 21, 2008, 02:31:20 PM »

Quote from: Solo on May 18, 2008, 02:21:14 PM

What is everyone's preferred ending?
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Im partial to the New Dark Age one myself. Im always down for pushing the reset button on all of humanity, plus Tracer Tong rocks.
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Merging with Helios. it's the only reasonable future.

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AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #27 on:** May 21, 2008, 04:10:14 PM »

Uh no it hints at mucho awesomeness to come.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 21, 2008, 04:15:12 PM »

It's not a fucking training level! The first levels in GR2 and Splinter Cell, those were training levels. This, is initiation.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #29 on:** May 21, 2008, 04:38:15 PM »

Then why is it called Training on the title screen

duckman2000 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 21, 2008, 04:59:37 PM »

Because ~~Ion Storm sucks at giving things proper titles~~ shut up.

bork · « **Reply #31 on:** May 22, 2008, 12:07:07 AM »

I'd like to try this game out. I take it the game will run on just about anything nowadays? It might be fun to see how it runs on the Asus EEE, but a Macintosh version was released and I'm sure my MacBook could handle it.

Bildi · « **Reply #32 on:** May 22, 2008, 01:08:29 AM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 17, 2008, 09:32:31 PM

What's wonky about it? I'm cool with the rest, I have a Wii

I tip my hat to you, good sir.

bork · « **Reply #33 on:** May 23, 2008, 02:46:08 AM »

I can't play this on my MacBook. Runs too fast. :'(

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #34 on:** May 23, 2008, 10:08:00 AM »

There's a fix for that, search GAF thread titles for 'deus ex.'

The guy complaining was a Windows user but someone had a solution.

chronovore · « **Reply #35 on:** May 23, 2008, 07:35:55 PM »

The game was great, and has one of the best stories in an FPS to-date. The boss fights are actually scary, and there are many ways to clear missions. It's a shame, but I doubt we'll see anything so well tuned and open again.

Solo · « **Reply #36 on:** May 24, 2008, 12:54:36 PM »

But not as awesome as the Hong Kong and MJ12 music that awaits after that.

Draft · « **Reply #37 on:** May 24, 2008, 03:34:02 PM »

The only time I've ever felt truly bad about killing an NPC was in Deus Ex.

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Lilliputian machine

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AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #38 on:** May 25, 2008, 02:17:37 AM »

Been too busy to play much, but yea I'm up to Battery Park now. I like it.

cool breeze · « **Reply #39 on:** May 25, 2008, 02:24:31 AM »

I have to remember to buy this in Steam to replay it.

I lost a lot of my old PC games and with Steam my shelf is lonely now with only stalker, Crysis, CoH, and The Witcher.

bork · « **Reply #40 on:** May 25, 2008, 05:07:08 AM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 23, 2008, 10:08:00 AM

There's a fix for that, search GAF thread titles for 'deus ex.'

The guy complaining was a Windows user but someone had a solution.

This?

Quote

I had this problem. It's to do with your processor being very fast. For example mine is a e6400 2.4ghz running at 3.44ghz. There is a way to fix it though!.

First try a cpu slower like some of said.

Or

Launch the game, then ALT-TAB back to the desktop & launch the task manager (CTRL+SHIFT+ESC). Find the game's process in the process tab, then right click on it & select processor affinity. Untick one of the CPUs.

or

open the deusex.ini in the deus ex\system folder and fiddle around with gamespeed=

Mondain · « **Reply #41 on:** May 25, 2008, 07:03:19 AM »

it's strange because I replayed the original Unreal on my Core Duo setup lately and although the framerate was real fast it wasn't totally unplayable like Deus Ex was

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #42 on:** May 25, 2008, 11:22:06 AM »

Quote from: lyte edge on May 25, 2008, 05:07:08 AM

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 23, 2008, 10:08:00 AM
There's a fix for that, search GAF thread titles for 'deus ex.'

The guy complaining was a Windows user but someone had a solution.

This?

Quote
I had this problem. It's to do with your processor being very fast. For example mine is a e6400 2.4ghz running at 3.44ghz. There is a way to fix it though!.

First try a cpu slower like some of said.

Or

Launch the game, then ALT-TAB back to the desktop & launch the task manager (CTRL+SHIFT+ESC). Find the game's process in the process tab, then right click on it & select processor affinity. Untick one of the CPUs.

or

open the deusex.ini in the deus ex\system folder and fiddle around with gamespeed=

I think so, I only read the OP.

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Author Topic: Is Deus Ex still awesome? (Read 3255 times)