Gamershell: MGS4 has 4.6 GB required install

[Smooth Groove]

FFX had long ass cutscenes and Americans loved it so I don't see why it's a problem. 

The bigger problem with MGS is that each game spends so much time on the story yet most people have no idea WTF is going on. 

[Crushed]

I really don't think there will be 90-minute cutscenes. Ryan (and I think some others like TTP on GAF) have already said that the longest one is closer to 60 minutes, and it's probably the final cutscene.

[Van Cruncheon]

why the fuck do you want bad polygon puppet theatre

[dark1x]

Nobody would even bat an eye if there was a total of 90 minutes of cutscenes in MGS4. It's the norm in japanese games. But ONE 90 minute cutscene boggles the mind.

I hope that is a typo because sitting through a 1.5 hour long cutscene = WTF.

There's going to be more than 90 minutes of cutscenes, of that there is no doubt (I believe Halo 3 was noted as having almost an hour or something).  There are going to be a LOT of cutscenes.  I simply doubt that there will be multiple 90 minute scenes.  I wouldn't mind if the ending were 90 minutes, though. 

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I was a bit off.  According to Bungie, there are 41 minutes of cutscenes (total) in Halo 3.

[MCD]

i thought you meant a one hour cutscene (not total runtime) 

[Kyle]

Nobody would even bat an eye if there was a total of 90 minutes of cutscenes in MGS4. It's the norm in japanese games. But ONE 90 minute cutscene boggles the mind.

I hope that is a typo because sitting through a 1.5 hour long cutscene = WTF.

There's going to be more than 90 minutes of cutscenes, of that there is no doubt (I believe Halo 3 was noted as having almost an hour or something).  There are going to be a LOT of cutscenes.  I simply doubt that there will be multiple 90 minute scenes.  I wouldn't mind if the ending were 90 minutes, though. 

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I was a bit off.  According to Bungie, there are 41 minutes of cutscenes (total) in Halo 3.

yeah, most of them are 1 to 5 minutes long, some of them are just seconds long.

[Mr. Gundam]

The intro to MGS4 is supposed to be really unique, I wonder if it's the rumored 54 minute movie?

[Smooth Groove]

Nobody would even bat an eye if there was a total of 90 minutes of cutscenes in MGS4. It's the norm in japanese games. But ONE 90 minute cutscene boggles the mind.

I hope that is a typo because sitting through a 1.5 hour long cutscene = WTF.

There's going to be more than 90 minutes of cutscenes, of that there is no doubt (I believe Halo 3 was noted as having almost an hour or something).  There are going to be a LOT of cutscenes.  I simply doubt that there will be multiple 90 minute scenes.  I wouldn't mind if the ending were 90 minutes, though. 

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I was a bit off.  According to Bungie, there are 41 minutes of cutscenes (total) in Halo 3.

yeah, most of them are 1 to 5 minutes long, some of them are just seconds long.

Guys, good job on spotting Dark1X's Sfud so promptly. 

[dark1x]

Nobody would even bat an eye if there was a total of 90 minutes of cutscenes in MGS4. It's the norm in japanese games. But ONE 90 minute cutscene boggles the mind.

I hope that is a typo because sitting through a 1.5 hour long cutscene = WTF.

There's going to be more than 90 minutes of cutscenes, of that there is no doubt (I believe Halo 3 was noted as having almost an hour or something).  There are going to be a LOT of cutscenes.  I simply doubt that there will be multiple 90 minute scenes.  I wouldn't mind if the ending were 90 minutes, though. 

whatdog.gif

I was a bit off.  According to Bungie, there are 41 minutes of cutscenes (total) in Halo 3.

yeah, most of them are 1 to 5 minutes long, some of them are just seconds long.

Guys, good job on spotting Dark1X's Sfud so promptly. 

What the fuck?  Sfud?  I was correcting someone on the notion that MGS4 would only contain 90 minutes of cutscenes total by pointing out the total length of the cutscenes in Halo 3.  I only used Halo 3 as an example due to the fact that Bungie specifically commented on the total length of the cutscenes.  Whether or not you believe lengthy cutscenes are a negative inclusion matters not in this case as I was only using Halo 3 as a point of reference.  Only someone with an agenda would view such posts as "fud".

[duckman2000]

What the fuck?  Sfud?  I was correcting someone on the notion that MGS4 would only contain 90 minutes of cutscenes total by pointing out the total length of the cutscenes in Halo 3.  Only someone with an agenda would view such posts as "fud".

Don't worry about it, it'd seem as if Smooth Groove has some primal urge that pushes him to post at least something of the system war sort in each thread that he frequents.

[Brehvolution]

[Draft]

I really don't think there will be 90-minute cutscenes. Ryan (and I think some others like TTP on GAF) have already said that the longest one is closer to 60 minutes, and it's probably the final cutscene.

What a fucking world.

No, there's no 90 minute cutscene, don't be ridiculous.

The longest one's about 60 minutes.

[duckman2000]

I'm not sure why anyone would be shocked by this though. Isn't this what MGS tards want, long ass cinematics to present the cornball story?

[Mupepe]

I'm not sure why anyone would be shocked by this though. Isn't this what MGS tards want, long ass cinematics to present the cornball story?

do not call me a tard.

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[Draft]

I'm not sure why anyone would be shocked by this though. Isn't this what MGS tards want, long ass cinematics to present the cornball story?

It's all about scale, I suppose.

Did we even have 10 minute cutscenes back in the day? Did Final Fantasy 6 ever take over for more than 10 minutes? Maybe. But say, half an hour? No way (at least IIRC.)

Even MGS1, I don't remember a single cutscene clocking in at over 10 minutes. Maybe a couple just barely, like the Otacon Metal Gear explanation.

I mean, there's a line. I don't know exactly where the line is, but I do know that 60 minutes of listening to David Hayter talk to Colonel Campbell is way the fuck over on the wrong side.

[Mupepe]

i dunno, but i had to listen to an assload of codec in mgs1 :'(

[Draft]

i dunno, but i had to listen to an assload of codec in mgs1 :'(

That is true, but codec is slightly different because you can skip the spoken dialog and just read. I always do this, and while I hate the long codec conversations too, at least I can bang them out in a minute or two. Cutscenes are either watch, or skip, which sucks if you're interested in the story, but not a 10 minute speech on nuclear proliferation.

[Darunia]

i get a headache from reading just about every gaf mgs thread nowadays. Right now the mgs obsessed are discussing whether a guy (Matt Leone) who hasn't played much of the series before 4 has the right to be on the review crew. the way these people treat that franchise, it's scary. 'skip, can you tell us how much he's played of the trilogy?' 

oh and cutscenes in 1 were WAY longer than I remembered. I took the psone version to a friend who wanted to catch up and while the fat engineer was explaining metal gear I asked myself 'christ how long has this been going on?'

maybe I'm getting more impatient as I grow older but I do remember being more tolerant on cutscenes 3 or 4 years ago. Now that you see more and more games delivering a decent narrative without cutscenes... I dunno it's getting more archaic

[Smooth Groove]

Nobody would even bat an eye if there was a total of 90 minutes of cutscenes in MGS4. It's the norm in japanese games. But ONE 90 minute cutscene boggles the mind.

I hope that is a typo because sitting through a 1.5 hour long cutscene = WTF.

There's going to be more than 90 minutes of cutscenes, of that there is no doubt (I believe Halo 3 was noted as having almost an hour or something).  There are going to be a LOT of cutscenes.  I simply doubt that there will be multiple 90 minute scenes.  I wouldn't mind if the ending were 90 minutes, though. 

whatdog.gif

I was a bit off.  According to Bungie, there are 41 minutes of cutscenes (total) in Halo 3.

yeah, most of them are 1 to 5 minutes long, some of them are just seconds long.

Guys, good job on spotting Dark1X's Sfud so promptly. 

What the fuck?  Sfud?  I was correcting someone on the notion that MGS4 would only contain 90 minutes of cutscenes total by pointing out the total length of the cutscenes in Halo 3.  I only used Halo 3 as an example due to the fact that Bungie specifically commented on the total length of the cutscenes.  Whether or not you believe lengthy cutscenes are a negative inclusion matters not in this case as I was only using Halo 3 as a point of reference.  Only someone with an agenda would view such posts as "fud".

You actually thought I was being serious? 

[Draft]

i get a headache from reading just about every gaf mgs thread nowadays. Right now the mgs obsessed are discussing whether a guy (Matt Leone) who hasn't played much of the series before 4 has the right to be on the review crew. the way these people treat that franchise, it's scary.

MGS threads there are unreadable. The game cannot be discussed, only fellated, and even then, if you don't fellate it right, you will probably get yelled at and possibly banned.

[Darunia]

yep. even stating that Twin Snakes was anything less than an abortion will get you a certain visit from the ever present ssx

'Twin Snakes sucked because they messed with Snake's characterization and portrayed him like a super hero'

[duckman2000]

i get a headache from reading just about every gaf mgs thread nowadays. Right now the mgs obsessed are discussing whether a guy (Matt Leone) who hasn't played much of the series before 4 has the right to be on the review crew. the way these people treat that franchise, it's scary. 'skip, can you tell us how much he's played of the trilogy?' 

I think the set-up they are doing seems remarkably sensible for being EGM. A guy who has played lots of MGS, and a dude who hasn't. That sounds like it should make for a good combined review, right? I guess they are concerned that the game is going to be "underrated", but that's a bit strange. If someone who isn't well versed in MGS myth and lore can or can not get into the game, that's actually valuable information and actually serves well as a buyer's guides. Which is what these reviews should, first and foremost, be about. Not ego pieces, not fanboy reports, but buyer's guides.

yep. even stating that Twin Snakes was anything less than an abortion will get you a certain visit from the ever present ssx

'Twin Snakes sucked because they messed with Snake's characterization and portrayed him like a super hero'

Whereas the reality of course is that Twin Snakes sucked because it was a Metal Gear Solid "game".

[Darunia]

I think the set-up they are doing seems remarkably sensible for being EGM. A guy who has played lots of MGS, and a dude who hasn't. That sounds like it should make for a good combined review, right? I guess they are concerned that the game is going to be "underrated", but that's a bit strange. If someone who isn't well versed in MGS myth and lore can or can not get into the game, that's actually valuable information and actually serves well as a buyer's guides. Which is what these reviews should, first and foremost, be about. Not ego pieces, not fanboy reports, but buyer's guides.

Exactly. In an ideal scenario they'd put someone like Shawn Elliott on for third review, I would love to see how that'd get the blood boiling. But yeah a fresh take from someone who hasn't completely dug into the series is great because you get a more grounded opinion from someone who takes the gameplay at face value. There are probably people who will buy this and will never have played an MGS game before, so a good idea is to mirror that in the review.

[MCD]

i get a headache from reading just about every gaf mgs thread nowadays. Right now the mgs obsessed are discussing whether a guy (Matt Leone) who hasn't played much of the series before 4 has the right to be on the review crew. the way these people treat that franchise, it's scary.

MGS threads there are unreadable. The game cannot be discussed, only fellated, and even then, if you don't fellate it right, you will probably get yelled at and possibly banned.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11276397&postcount=2

[Bildi]

I'm not sure why anyone would be shocked by this though. Isn't this what MGS tards want, long ass cinematics to present the cornball story?

I want to have your baby.

[MCD]

should have asked about the superior 360

[Kyle]

should have asked about the superior 360

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[duckman2000]

Wingus  Dingus

[Smooth Groove]

should have asked about the superior 360

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Kyle, McDragon and Smooth Groove, the 3 M$kateers

[Draft]

i get a headache from reading just about every gaf mgs thread nowadays. Right now the mgs obsessed are discussing whether a guy (Matt Leone) who hasn't played much of the series before 4 has the right to be on the review crew. the way these people treat that franchise, it's scary.

MGS threads there are unreadable. The game cannot be discussed, only fellated, and even then, if you don't fellate it right, you will probably get yelled at and possibly banned.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11276397&postcount=2

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That shit is amazing. You play it too. Respect.

[Bildi]

should have asked about the superior 360

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Can I be D’artagnan?  I realise I'll just be hanging around like a third (fourth?) wheel, but it's the only way I'm going to get laid.

[MCD]

MGStards went crazy over that comment.

[MrSingh]

Forgot to ask Ryan how it is to work on the shit fuck console with the ass fuck GPU! DOH!

(too busy eating  MarkMcD's delicious handmade burgers and having pics of myself taken with Ricciardi's copy of uncharted BD ROM sandwiched between my asscheeks.. ssshhhh don't tell him I did that)

[Draft]

MGStards went crazy over that comment.

:tbslol I didn't even notice, holy shit

[duckman2000]

It never takes much

[MrSingh]

lol - i forgot all about that.

You were too busy schmoozing with Kenny-G.

[Smooth Groove]

should have asked about the superior 360

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Can I be D’artagnan?  I realise I'll just be hanging around like a third (fourth?) wheel, but it's the only way I'm going to get laid.

Sure, as long as you pledge allegiance and undying loyalty to the One Xbox Nation.  We might have to find a new Emperor though. 

[bork]

the xfag emperor is just eatin sandwiches , i need to recharge my batteries for the long summer/winter of hate.

It's a marathon, you can't just spit the bile all the time, you need to let there be calm so when the lol-cano erupts, then it's more effective.

You lost that title a long time ago.   :'(

BEHOLD, THY NEW EMPEROR MR SINGH

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

I just read about the 90 minute cut scene....

[Mupepe]

according to a few people who have actually played the game, none of the cutscenes come close to 90 minutes.  people on gaf say the longest ~60 minutes which is the ending.

[FancyFeast]

according to a few people who have actually played the game, none of the cutscenes come close to 90 minutes.  people on gaf say the longest ~60 minutes which is the ending.

Oh that sounds reasonable.....

God I hate this game.

[Mupepe]

according to a few people who have actually played the game, none of the cutscenes come close to 90 minutes.  people on gaf say the longest ~60 minutes which is the ending.

Oh that sounds reasonable.....

God I hate this game.

shouldn't be that surprising to you really.

[FancyFeast]

Has this been Gaffed yet?  this is like 2 weeks old...