The Indiana Jones: KOTCS thread of "won't be as good as Speed Racer"

[The Fake Shemp]

I think I am going to NOT see this installment.  In my universe, Indiana Jones ended with that horseback ride into the sunset, with the exceptionally entertaining Last Crusade.

[Mupepe]

See Mupepe? For every person who hates it, there is one who loves it. Go see it for yourself and decide.

Eh, I hate going to the theaters generally.  People have already pointed out the things I don't think I will like.  So unless I find someone willing to tag along or get really bored, I'll wait til it hits Blu Ray.  I like the original Indy movies but I'm not so passionate about the series that wondering whether it's good or not keeps me up at night.  If it turns out to be shit, it won't bother me.

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I gotta say I really liked the first 60-75 minutes.  Shia's character is decent, and Indy is best when he's working with 1 partner.  Things get kinda bogged down when he starts to pick up additional characters that are tagging along.  The warehouse sequence is pretty good, and I don't really care that they immediately delved into the mystical and fantastic.  The A-bomb sequence is not as cringe-inducingly bad as some of the later stuff, but it does feel out of place.  The motorcycle chase is great, though.

After that first hour or so, things really do become a CGI mess.  The couple next to me actually walked out and never returned after the Tarzan sequence.  Why the fuck is that even there?  I'll bet that fanboys will be forever defending this with the same cornball excuse they used for Revenge of the Sith's cheesy "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO" FrankenVader scene -- "It's an homage!"  As if being an homage somehow puts a scene above criticism.

Prior to viewing, I didn't pay much to the "Lucas is gonna ruin this!" whiners, but this movie really does have Lucas-stink all over.  CGI up the ass, Ewok-syndrome, pointless fanservice references to superior prior films.

Am I the only one that really got a kick out of Cate Blanchett's character though?  She is probably not strong enough to be a main villain, but Mola Ram aside these films have never been defined by their villains anyway.

[Great Rumbler]

Am I the only one that really got a kick out of Cate Blanchett's character though?  She is probably not strong enough to be a main villain, but Mola Ram aside these films have never been defined by their villains anyway.

"We will turn you into us. And the best part...is that you won't even notice."

During that scene I seriously started feeling paranoid that the people around me might be Commies. I could have sworn that one guy was wearing a Che Guevara shirt.

[AdmiralViscen]

It was ok I guess lol, I don't even know.

It was a fun time with some mega groans in there.

[thekavorka]

movie sucked. too forced, rushed, and ridiculous.

the acting and dialogs were terrible

[Solo]

I think I am going to NOT see this installment.  In my universe, Indiana Jones ended with that horseback ride into the sunset, with the exceptionally entertaining Last Crusade.

Go see it, Will, if only for comedic value.

[The Fake Shemp]

Maybe it's the awful Star Wars prequels, but I really don't have the urge to fight Lucas in a nerd fit of rage and give him my hard earned cash at the same time.  Not that the Indiana Jones films are high art, but they're a memorable part of my childhood that still stand up and I don't want to wreck that.  I am going to pass here.

[thekavorka]

i still can't get over how bad this movie is.

im not even comparing it to the old indy movies. by itself, the movie is terrible. it's like no one actually edited it or went back and actually watched it before it was sent out.

[demi]

buy lego indiana - now containing zero crystal skull

[FlameOfCallandor]

God the movie was pretty bad.

[Bloodwake]

I saw it yesterday, it was alright, save for

spoiler (click to show/hide)

the horrible monkey vine swinging scene

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Accurate review.

The jungle chase, save for the spoilered, which was an homage to older films, pretty much made the film awesome.

My running theory now is that if this was made in the eighties it wouldn't get any hate, but eh, it's a lost cause defending this movie which was well-received by most critics on any message board since the majority of people on the internet are determined to hate it anyway rather than be proved wrong, so chuck this fucking thread in the fire of illogical hate.

[FancyFeast]

I refuse to believe the internet elite are this obtuse.

[The Fake Shemp]

I saw it yesterday, it was alright, save for

spoiler (click to show/hide)

the horrible monkey vine swinging scene

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Accurate review.

The jungle chase, save for the spoilered, which was an homage to older films, pretty much made the film awesome.

My running theory now is that if this was made in the eighties it wouldn't get any hate, but eh, it's a lost cause defending this movie which was well-received by most critics on any message board since the majority of people on the internet are determined to hate it anyway rather than be proved wrong, so chuck this fucking thread in the fire of illogical hate.

Uh, have you seen Temple of Doom?  This is just a clear case of an apologist verus general concensus.  It was not well received by most critics either.  Isn't it's Cream of the Crop rating at like 60%.  I'm not sure what world you're living in - but this flick has received very mixed reviews, leaning towards negative.

[FancyFeast]

I refuse to believe the internet elite are this obtuse.

[Raban]

I thought it was OK. I'm not exactly sure why people expect so much from it. No matter how good it could've been, none of the huge fans of the old movies are going to be satisfied, because that's what nostalgia does. I'll admit, Indy 4 did go over the top with its theme, plot and all the corny, CORNY dialog, but it wasn't entirely too far from a series that was pulp to begin with.

[Solo]

I don't care what decade this was made in, shit is shit, regardless of the era.

[DJ_Tet]

I saw it a couple of weeks ago.  I actually went to see it a month ago but had to leave because some buffarilla wouldn't get her kids to STFU.  Constant shooshing and full-head turns weren't enough to get this cow to shut her brood up.  A manager drug her out of the theater as we asked for our money back, if I ever see that disrespectful bitch again I will rip her a new asshole.


That said, I should have taken my losses and not returned, but I wanted to see Indy on the big screen.  It's not the worst movie I've ever seen, but even as someone who kinda liked Franken-Vader I have to say that Monkey Shia was absolutely ridiculous.  It was somewhat jarring seeing how old Harrison Ford looks, it's been awhile since I've seen a movie of his in the theater.  I thought the movie had several memorable shots, it was a pretty movie.  But, it was ultimately unecessary.  The dialogue was strong, and as someone mentioned earlier, the scene in the tent felt like classic Indy.  I'd go see another one.

I felt bad for Karen Allen, Harrison Ford looked like he would rather kiss Shia than her at the end of the movie.  Women once again lose on the double standard, I'd say she's aged better than Ford lol.

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From AICN:

"Times Online has a longish interview with George Lucas in which George candidly discusses the complexities of setting KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL into motion, and how the same obstacles could impact the development of another INDIANA JONES movie. Sounds like getting Ford and Spielberg and Lucas on the same page was a struggle at times .

Memorable Lucas quotes from the piece include:

Indiana Jones only becomes complicated when you have another two people saying ‘I want it this way’ and ‘I want it that way’, whereas, when I first did Jones, I just said, ‘We’ll do it this way’ — and that was much easier. But now I have to accommodate everybody, because they are all big, successful guys, too, so it’s a little hard on a practical level.

Ahem.

Lucas also divulges this interesting tidbit:

Really, with the last one, Steven wasn’t that enthusiastic. I was trying to persuade him. But now Steve is more amenable to doing another one. Yet we still have the issues about the direction we’d like to take. I’m in the future; Steven’s in the past. He’s trying to drag it back to the way they were, I’m trying to push it to a whole different place. So, still we have a sort of tension. This recent one came out of that.

..says the interview, whose entirety you can find HERE.

Interesting stuff, which might explain the lackluster/disjointed quality some fans have noticed in CRYSTAL SKULL".

[AdmiralViscen]

Wow, those are some serious disses against his supposed friends.

Fuck this guy

[Enl]

Spielberg needs to stop sticking with those pixels and move into the HD era like Lucas. 

[Phoenix Dark]

"yea things were much better during Raiders when Steven and Harrison were bums, and I could be like 'ok, we're gonna do this.' Now we're all accomplished men and they won't listen to me god dammit"

lucas with the troll of the month 

[EvilBoris]

 I always liked this guy's George Lucas impressions