Author Topic: Crisis Core is the worst game on the PSP (Read 9758 times)

Rman · « **Reply #60 on:** May 26, 2008, 12:00:07 PM »

Quote from: The Sawyer on May 26, 2008, 11:54:51 AM

Square hasnt been original since back in the PSOne days when their last gasp of original thought errupted with titles like Einhander and Xenogears.

Since then theyve falling into the same fucking pattern of useless FF games and spin offs. Square can do no evil with some people, its ridiculous

Yep.

Along with the games you mentioned--Brave Fencer Musashi, Bushido Blade 1 and 2, Ergheiz, Tobal 1 and 2, Threads of Fate. I loved Square's direction in the PSone days. Hey, some of their games were misses, but I at least they tried different things.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #61 on:** May 26, 2008, 12:19:15 PM »

Yup, and then it all ended, and we were treated to one rehash after the next. Blame Enix all you want, but if the merger was the first moment you decided to start criticizing the company, thats pretty damned convenient for square.

Raban · « **Reply #62 on:** May 26, 2008, 12:35:54 PM »

Quote from: The Sawyer on May 26, 2008, 12:19:15 PM

Yup, and then it all ended, and we were treated to one rehash after the next. Blame Enix all you want, but if the merger was the first moment you decided to start criticizing the company, thats pretty damned convenient for square.

I'm not a Square fanboy, lol.

I've been critical before the merger, but we didn't see this kind of volume of spin-offs since after the merger. Square can do wrong, they've done wrong many times. Look at FF8. Trust me, man, I'm trying my best not to be biased here.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #63 on:** May 26, 2008, 01:24:18 PM »

VP2 > FFXII

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #64 on:** May 26, 2008, 01:34:43 PM »

ff8 was awesome, best ff confirmed

ff12

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #65 on:** May 26, 2008, 01:56:44 PM »

Final Fantasy VII

I really should play FFVIII.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #66 on:** May 26, 2008, 02:21:19 PM »

just make sure you know that there are much better ways of getting more spells than Drawing, and you'll (hopefully) love it

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #67 on:** May 26, 2008, 06:11:17 PM »

Quote

Yeah, but now the good games come from the Enix side not the Square side...

There are no sides, since 2006 or so they're pretty much integrated. it's been the same producers involved with everything.

Also, how original a game is, especially for Square, has little to do with whether it's a sequel or spinoff or whatever. FFX-2, a pretty unique take on RPG aesthetics and game structure, is a lot more original than Threads of Fate, a fairly generic ARPG. People complain about Dawn of Mana because it's too different from the old ones, etc.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #68 on:** May 26, 2008, 06:17:23 PM »

It basically had KH's horrible camera and even more tight environments where KH camera always sux

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #69 on:** May 26, 2008, 06:28:59 PM »

the point of Dawn of Mana was that it was totally designed around its physics engine, which KH is not.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #70 on:** May 26, 2008, 06:30:14 PM »

kh, on the other hand, was designed around fanservicing fat goth girls

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #71 on:** May 26, 2008, 06:32:53 PM »

which is a totally legitimate and admirable purpose, btw.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #72 on:** May 26, 2008, 06:34:44 PM »

gimme floating space crates over poppy z brite

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #73 on:** May 26, 2008, 06:53:19 PM »

KH is pretty awful, even if its pretty

MCD · « **Reply #74 on:** May 26, 2008, 06:54:46 PM »

Quote from: The Sawyer on May 26, 2008, 06:53:19 PM

KH is pretty awful, even if its pretty

paging demi.

demi · « **Reply #75 on:** May 26, 2008, 07:00:57 PM »

it roxas my boxas

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #76 on:** May 26, 2008, 07:06:36 PM »

no results found for "floating space crates".

cool breeze · « **Reply #77 on:** May 26, 2008, 11:23:21 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on May 26, 2008, 06:30:14 PM

kh, on the other hand, was designed around fanservicing fat goth girls

Fat goth girls don't appreciate fighting along side various Disney characters. Maybe if this was a mix of Death Note, Final Fantasy, and Tim Burton movies you would have a point.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #78 on:** May 26, 2008, 11:26:03 PM »

th' fuck? i don't know a single fat goth girl who DOESN'T moisten up at the sight of the disney store

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #79 on:** May 26, 2008, 11:42:02 PM »

you're also a fat goth girl on the internet

cool breeze · « **Reply #80 on:** May 26, 2008, 11:49:14 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on May 26, 2008, 11:26:03 PM

th' fuck? i don't know a single fat goth girl who DOESN'T moisten up at the sight of the disney store

I don't know where you live, but at least on the east coat the fat goth girls aren't on good terms with color or hygiene, two aspects which Disney is all about.

Eric P · « **Reply #81 on:** May 26, 2008, 11:49:44 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on May 26, 2008, 06:34:44 PM

gimme floating space crates over poppy z brite

poppy z brite doesn't write like she used to anymore

the days of exquisite corpse and lost souls are thankfully long gone.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #82 on:** May 26, 2008, 11:54:14 PM »

i'm not sure the "liquor" stories and their attendant new orleans fetishism are any more interesting, although they're at least vaguely nuanced as opposed to blood drinkin', corpse fuckin', entrail stranglin' anal sex of the dead

Eric P · « **Reply #83 on:** May 27, 2008, 12:02:16 AM »

the rampant nola fetishism is why i really don't read a lot of her anymore. her short stories were always her strongest works though.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #84 on:** May 27, 2008, 02:20:29 PM »

i hope it isn't true, since it means the casuals have won

i want them to make even niche-ier games, not these half-assed fanservicing efforts

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #85 on:** May 28, 2008, 03:00:52 PM »

the real die hard square fans (e.g. me) want their favorite designers to continue/increase development of "games only they want to play" and don't have a ton of interest in FF7.

and I love how everyone at Kotaku interpreted Wada's alleged ultimatum as directed at their personal dumb desire for a Secret of Mana remake or whatever.

Oblivion · « **Reply #86 on:** May 28, 2008, 04:33:32 PM »

I probably don't get out much, but this is really the first time I've ever heard the stereotype that fat goth girls clamor for Disney nostalgia.

Valcrist · « **Reply #87 on:** May 29, 2008, 04:33:24 PM »

I'm playing through this game and I'm honestly confused. The thing that spins and these cutscenes that fly in my face during battle makes absolutely no sense to me.
There is a shitload of fanservice however. FF7 nuts must be creaming while playing this.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #88 on:** May 29, 2008, 04:48:57 PM »

Quote from: Valcrist on May 29, 2008, 04:33:24 PM

I'm playing through this game and I'm honestly confused. The thing that spins and these cutscenes that fly in my face during battle makes absolutely no sense to me.
There is a shitload of fanservice however. FF7 nuts must be creaming while playing this.

Yeah that was my conclusion as well.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #89 on:** May 29, 2008, 05:32:12 PM »

the slot machine is a dumb way of showing random stat boosts during battle. it also displays leveling up for you & your materia, though this isn't (as) random. the pictures and videos are supposed to be zack's memories that he draws on for strength.

Himu · « **Reply #90 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:18:39 AM »

ITT I will quote Loveless

Himu · « **Reply #91 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:20:33 AM »

“Will you be taking flight? Towards the planet that hates us.”

“Waiting for it to be received. A harsh tomorrow and rolling winds defy us.”

“For you it becomes quite usual to lose your dreams and pride. The Goddess herself has already let go of the arrow from her bow.”

“When will the beasts of this world bring their fight to an end? From the dark sky, the Goddess comes whirling down. The door to the light opens to happiness, together with the gift of the Goddess.”

best poem since the renaissance obviously

Himu · « **Reply #92 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:22:43 AM »

Genesis is a cigarillo. I hate that I can't my posts.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #93 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:24:10 AM »

himumu is BACK

MCD · « **Reply #94 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:26:35 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on May 30, 2008, 01:22:43 AM

Genesis is a cigarillo. I hate that I can't my posts.

did you pay ichi back?

just do it and end this shit.

Himu · « **Reply #95 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:31:34 AM »

i haven't sent him the money yet, no. i feel that after all this time 40 dollars really isn't enough and that i should give him more than that but he says can't recieve packages at his jpn address. oh well. I really want to give him 100 dollars, which I should have by the end of the week. it's not like I need it. I'm a college student who lives at home during break and spends money on games. Right now, I don't really need any games. Ichi, however, is probably starving to death and living homeless without shelter! I should pitch in. It'll make me feel better.

MCD · « **Reply #96 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:35:05 AM »

good man.

MCD · « **Reply #97 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:36:20 AM »

ichi is banned.

Himu · « **Reply #98 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:37:55 AM »

Sorry PR. He never gets on aim or anything so I can rarely talk to him about personal stuff, as much as I like him.

MCD · « **Reply #99 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:47:43 AM »

he needs a break.

look at his post history if you wanna know.

Vizzys · « **Reply #100 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:52:38 AM »

ichi was banned for two weeks

i think thats the time I read somewhere

Himu · « **Reply #101 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:56:11 AM »

this threads needs more loveless quotes

Vizzys · « **Reply #102 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:58:26 AM »

thread needs to go back to luminous arc bashing

Himu · « **Reply #103 on:** May 30, 2008, 01:59:06 AM »

nuh uh loveless is the gift of the goddess

ask genesis

Vizzys · « **Reply #104 on:** May 30, 2008, 02:00:49 AM »

shō-nenz

Himu · « **Reply #105 on:** May 30, 2008, 02:04:21 AM »

crisis core has one of the worst game scripts in recent memory

Jabberwocky · « **Reply #106 on:** May 30, 2008, 02:05:29 AM »

It's really odd, when it came out in Japan I saw everyone over at GAF mushing over the game, calling it "Nomura's best" or SE's best FF spinoff since Tactics on the PSX. On the other hand, Subarashiki Kono Sekai got lukewarm impressions.

Then they both release in America... now everyone gushes over TWEWY and pisses all over Crisis Core. Beats me.

Quote from: MoxManiac on May 25, 2008, 05:56:24 PM

Even with the terrible DQ spinoffs, dsfijhgfhij

I have to disagree with you here. At least the TOSE spinoffs are awesome.

Himu · « **Reply #107 on:** May 30, 2008, 02:09:08 AM »

i think it just proves that for the most part, j-gaf's tastes aren't very uhhh...strong

Himu · « **Reply #108 on:** May 30, 2008, 02:10:30 AM »

i don't think crisis core is bad. it's a heck of a lot better than KH2 or FFXII. It's the first square enix game I've enjoyed on some minimal level since 2003, when they first merged. but it's not great either.

Tristam · « **Reply #109 on:** May 30, 2008, 02:41:26 AM »

Quote from: CurseoftheGods on May 26, 2008, 01:56:44 PM

Final Fantasy VII

I really should play FFVIII.

Final Fantasy VIII is quite good; the junction system is far more entertaining than fiddling with materia. However, it does create balance issues if you're diligent and have a lot of modding and refining abilities because you end up with stupidly powerful characters early on in the game (the game attempts to compensate by leveling up enemies as you go along, but IIRC, the variable difficulty is purely based on your level -- note here, though, that leveling up is hardly how you advance your characters in FFVIII).

I still think Final Fantasy X beats the pants off every other FF as far as gameplay goes. The characters are supremely well-balanced thanks to the early restrictions of the sphere grid, but eventually it opens up and becomes as infinitely customizable as the weapons and armor. If it weren't for a supremely unlikable cast and embarrassingly poor voice acting, it would be my favorite Final Fantasy game.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #110 on:** May 30, 2008, 02:54:46 AM »

I'm convinced that people like Prole only claim to like FF8 to be iconoclastic. The game system IDEAS are good, but...

Himu · « **Reply #111 on:** May 30, 2008, 04:58:35 AM »

i love ff8. shut up.

Valcrist · « **Reply #112 on:** May 30, 2008, 05:24:05 AM »

Who wrote this script anyways? How did they go from FF12, which at least had a sensible script and voice acting, to this randomness. Each conversation feels like its on some seperate plane of obscurity only Final Fantasy characters can understand.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #113 on:** May 30, 2008, 05:42:31 AM »

the script was written by Kazushige Nojima who was lead writer for the original FF7, 8, 10, 10-2, KH2, Advent Children, Glory of Heracles series, Smash Bros. Brawl, etc etc., and is doing 13. 12 was a totally different team, although the lead writer (Daisuke Watanabe) also worked on 10 and 10-2 (+ Threads of Fate and KH: Chain of Memories) and is doing the new KH handheld spinoffs.

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Author Topic: Crisis Core is the worst game on the PSP (Read 9758 times)