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Borat not even original, Cohen STOLE the character! Suckers!
« on: November 12, 2006, 01:32:31 PM »
Will the real Borat please stand up?

Fri Nov 10, 8:39 AM ET

By Mike Collett-White LONDON (Reuters) - Will the real Borat please stand up?

Turkish Internet celebrity Mahir Cagri is in London to press his case that he is the inspiration for the spoof Kazakh journalist, the creation of British comedian Sacha Baron Cohen whose Borat movie is taking the world's box office by storm.

The 44-year-old's Web site, with its "I Kiss You!!!!!" greeting, made him an unlikely Internet hero seven years ago.

Web surfers were hooked by Cagri's larger-than-life persona, cheesy holiday snaps and prominent nose and mustache.

"I like to take foto-camera (amimals, towns, nice nude models and peoples)," his site explains in less than perfect English, giving his personal details as: "My tall 1.84 cm (6.2 feet) My weight 78 kg. My eyes green. I live alone!"

In an interview Thursday, Cagri appeared and sounded uncannily like the fictitious Borat, the mustachioed man from Kazakhstan who offended people there by saying that they kept women in cages and drank fermented horse urine.

Interviewers could be forgiven for thinking they were being led into the kind of comic set-up that Cohen engineers.

After seeing the Borat film, Cagri now worries people who watch it might think he is like the on-screen character, who mocks Kazakhstan, indulges in naked wrestling and makes jokes at the expense of Jews on a raucous trip across the United States.

"If you (see) this, what you think about me?" he told Reuters in broken English. "Mahir is a very bad comedian, Mahir is a homosexual, Mahir may be say the bad things about Jewish people? This is very bad."

Cagri set up his Internet page (www.ikissyou.org) in the late 1990s to make new friends and possibly find a partner.

At first he was taken aback by the sensation caused by the page, featuring photographs of him in skimpy swimwear on a beach, surrounded by young women and playing table tennis.

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Bill Gates was reportedly among his fans, and he embarked on a world tour on the strength of his sudden popularity appearing on chat shows and in commercials.

"I am a normal man. I never dreamed I would be famous, I would go to America. Suddenly I am famous. All people know me. All famous people know me too."

Now he is seeking publicity in the wake of Cohen, whose Borat film opened at the top of the U.S. charts earlier this month, taking an impressive $26.4 million in its first weekend.

"The world's media writes that Borat imitates and copies Mahir. He copies me, and he imitates me in a bad way," he said, adding that he is even considering legal action against Cohen.

Cohen was not immediately available for comment, but has said Borat was influenced by a doctor he met in southern Russia.

Cagri plans to make his own movie to show the "real Mahir."

Meanwhile, as his Web site says, he is open to offers.

"Who is want to come TURKEY I can invitate ... She can stay my home."
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2006, 01:37:10 PM »
Lol
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2006, 01:43:02 PM »
The borat character has been around for years, and before that with a different name. Sure Cohen might have seen this guy's site, but Borat is actually pretty different than this guy once you see him speak.


Oh, and.... OLD!
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2006, 01:43:37 PM »
oh please. Borat has been around for years, why only now has this come out?

edit: Beat me to it :(

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2006, 01:45:30 PM »
Because Cohen's rolling in the duo.


Next we're going to hear Ali G is a rip-off of Vanilla Ice... ::)
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2006, 01:47:43 PM »
Cagri set up his Internet page (www.ikissyou.org) in the late 1990s to make new friends and possibly find a partner.

Late 90s?  How long has BORAT been around.  Not as long, methinks!
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2006, 01:49:18 PM »
Uh, actually yeah... the character has been around since the late 1990's/early 2000's.

He used to be pretty big in England for years before coming stateside.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2006, 01:49:27 PM »
Oh yeah? well I thought up COMEDY! Someone stole it ;(

I dont like borat but it sounds to me like this guy just failed to capitalize on a general concept and is now jealous.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2006, 01:51:08 PM »
Dude, Shake... Borat uses exact quotes from Mahir's website!
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2006, 01:52:47 PM »
I mean honestly, when the story first broke I watched an interview with the guy... he hardly shares the same mannerisms as Borat.

Willco:

What, "I like sex"?

Yeah, that'll REALLY hold up in court. :lol
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2006, 01:56:06 PM »
Borat was never really poplar in the UK. Ali G was. Then you stole him from us. Thank you. He got annoying...

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2006, 01:58:13 PM »
EAT IT WILLCO! :punch

With a side of Dim Sum
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2006, 02:14:58 PM »
Was I the only person who found the movie not quite as funny as everyone was making it out to be?  And I laugh at everything.  It was a bit more crude and puerile than I had anticipated.  I was expecting something a bit more witty, though I suppose it was incivsive in its own way. 

I also think the fact that he's been making the rounds on the talk show circuit in character is incredibly corny, especially since he reuses much of the same material, even down to the exact lines (e.g., you can use my sister etc.).  I know this won't be a popular opinion seeing as how well-received the movie has generally been.  Hell, I even liked it myself -- just not as much as I had anticipated.  I felt that the first half of the movie was substantially better than the second.  It definitely wasn't "the funniest movie ever," nor was it "the hardest I've laughed in a theater."  That title would go to "There's Something About Mary." :D
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2006, 02:18:08 PM »
To each his own, but at least you saw the movie before shitting on it. :D
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2006, 02:18:37 PM »
I don't see blatant knockoffs
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2006, 02:19:21 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2006, 02:32:37 PM »
Loki: I never went to see it. I've seen a variety of clips online and really that was enough to tell me I didnt want to risk the 'theater going experience' to see something that is decidedly mediocre as far as comedies go.

Now Dirty Work; that's a comedy!
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2006, 02:56:58 PM »
The problem is this Borat started in 1998. This guy started 1999.

"Mr Cagri's picture-laden personal homepage, http://www.ikissyou.org, quickly spread across the web following its creation in 1999."

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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2006, 03:08:17 PM »
CHECK and MATE 8)
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2006, 03:16:39 PM »
Mahir says his character was created before the site, though!
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2006, 03:19:04 PM »
Mahir says his character was created before the site, though!
He didn't become "popular" till his site, he lives in Turkey!

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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2006, 03:21:05 PM »
And I highly doubt that Borat was popular in 1998.
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2006, 03:22:39 PM »
Andy Milonakis obviously ripped you off, Willco, even though you aren't a well-known face at all! The proof is in the pudding! :lol
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2006, 03:23:48 PM »


I don't know what that means.
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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2006, 03:26:25 PM »
It doesn't matter.

The movie is awesome.

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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2006, 03:26:34 PM »
old fuggin news :(

oh and no
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2006, 03:29:05 PM »
File this thread under FISSION MAILED! :spin
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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2006, 03:36:10 PM »
1998 borrat looks nothing like 2006 borrat. He was updated somewhere. 1998 Borrat is nothing like Mahir, unlike 2006 Borrat.

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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2006, 03:39:27 PM »
O SNAP
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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2006, 03:42:07 PM »
IT CONTINUES ::)
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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2006, 03:46:43 PM »
I thought this was common knowledge?  Borat is just a composite of Mahir and Yakov Smirnoff.
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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2006, 03:48:45 PM »
I thought this was common knowledge?  Borat is just a composite of Mahir and Yakov Smirnoff.

Yakov Smirnoff, most definitely. But Mahir? C'mon.
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2006, 03:50:23 PM »
I thought this was common knowledge?  Borat is just a composite of Mahir and Yakov Smirnoff.

Yakov Smirnoff, most definitely. But Mahir? C'mon.

Yes, Mahir is the more obvious ripoff. 



Mahir was the look and part of the schtick, Yakov filled in the schtick gaps.
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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2006, 04:14:46 PM »
And I highly doubt that Borat was popular in 1998.
Borat in 98(and 99) was originally a character in the sketch comedy show The Eleven O'Clock Show. A British type of SNL in the late 90's. It also had Ricky Gervais(of The Office & Extras), and Mackenzie Crook(also of the Office, and the PotC movies) as cast members.


Also to those wondering the origins of Borat, Cohen said in a commentary on his show that he was a exaggerated version of a foregin Doctor he met years ago that was unintentionally funny and spoke like Borat.
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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2006, 04:17:00 PM »
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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2006, 07:02:21 PM »
If Borat would have flopped, no one would care. Now that the movie is a success, people are jumping at the opportunity to claw any money they can away from Cohen.

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« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2006, 07:34:26 PM »
Also Cohen apparently has done Borat BEFORE 98 on the sketch comedy show. It is something he has been using since mid-90's it seems.

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« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2006, 10:29:05 PM »
Borat is reaching Mr Bean-grade overexposure right now. This is a good thing

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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2006, 12:48:46 AM »
Borat is reaching Mr Bean-grade overexposure right now. This is a good thing

Seriously.  It felt like I had seen the entire movie about a month before it actually came out between the constant ads on the net, the constant youtube links, and the constant pimping he and the movie were getting on message boards.  I swear there must have been more viral marketers for this shit than there were for any of the videogame companies.
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2006, 09:47:00 AM »
If Borat would have flopped, no one would care. Now that the movie is a success, people are jumping at the opportunity to claw any money they can away from Cohen.

Mo' money mo' problems.
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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2006, 02:52:17 PM »
Alright, I just watched one of the videos Mahir had linked from his site. Other than the 'stache and foreign accent, he does not resemble Cohen's Borat. Cohen's accent is different, too.

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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2006, 04:36:37 PM »
I just found out that Sasha Baron Cohen is engaged to Isla Fisher...HE WINS

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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2006, 04:38:07 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2006, 04:44:03 PM »
Borat's originality is the biggest lie since the holocaust.
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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2006, 04:45:16 PM »
Borat's originality is the biggest lie since the holocaust.
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