Author Topic: Comics discussion (Read 10565 times)

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #60 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:21:18 PM »

these are all wonderful suggestions, and i have indeed read some of them (and will look into others listed here), but they are mostly independent comics

is there any mainstream escapism worth reading nowadays? i have read all-star superman and it's terrific (best luthor in years), and i have read some of ed brubaker's captain america (decent, but story arcs go on a bit too long)

is there anything published by the big two which doesn't only appeal to continuity fetishists? i sent a list of my scans to eric and patel, and you can see from that i've tried to read some modern dc and marvel, but in all honesty i never make it more than a few pages into any of it (i mainly keep them for trading purposes)

modern superhero comics just strike me as more inbred than a tennessee family reunion

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #61 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:23:27 PM »

if you want "mainstream" escapism, check out 7 Soldiers

most of the mainstream DC/Marvel is just a clusterfuck, though. it's moved past continuity porn into continuity snuff

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #62 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:26:46 PM »

oh, i did read wanted

"thanks for your money, now go fuck yourself"

although, as i have said before, millar used to write superman adventures and it was really good

i think alex ross is a worse writer than millar, though

Darunia · « **Reply #63 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:29:57 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on May 08, 2009, 05:21:18 PM

is there anything published by the big two which doesn't only appeal to continuity fetishists? i sent a list of my scans to eric and patel, and you can see from that i've tried to read some modern dc and marvel, but in all honesty i never make it more than a few pages into any of it (i mainly keep them for trading purposes)

I tend to shy away from continuity stuff too since I'm new to comics, don't want all that baggage. This is what I've really enjoyed:

New X Men (Grant Morrison)
Astonishing X Men (only read 1-24, Ellis' run so far is crap)
Iron Man Extremis (I heard the Invincible Iron Man series is good too)
Ultimate Spider-man (really consistent in quality, a lot of fun to read)
DC: The New Frontier

Eric P · « **Reply #64 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:39:05 PM »

CAPTAIN BRITAIN AND MI-13!

read the first three issue story arc understanding that once they get the editorial demands out of the way, that it becomes really quite enjoyable

Dracula shoots vampires at England from the Moon to try to take over the country.

http://www.google.com/search?q=captain+britain+site%3Amediafire.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Diunx · « **Reply #65 on:** May 08, 2009, 05:48:28 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on May 08, 2009, 05:21:18 PM

these are all wonderful suggestions, and i have indeed read some of them (and will look into others listed here), but they are mostly independent comics

is there any mainstream escapism worth reading nowadays? i have read all-star superman and it's terrific (best luthor in years), and i have read some of ed brubaker's captain america (decent, but story arcs go on a bit too long)

is there anything published by the big two which doesn't only appeal to continuity fetishists? i sent a list of my scans to eric and patel, and you can see from that i've tried to read some modern dc and marvel, but in all honesty i never make it more than a few pages into any of it (i mainly keep them for trading purposes)

modern superhero comics just strike me as more inbred than a tennessee family reunion

The new Hercules and Captain Britain books are great, I'm also enjoying the new version of Deadpool.

TVC15 · « **Reply #66 on:** May 08, 2009, 06:11:07 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on May 08, 2009, 04:06:42 PM

i fucking love ericp

he's like my favorite poster

it used to be tvc but he doesn't make fun of me as much anymore so i don't like him

You fucking cunt. It was just a few days ago I wrote that story about you and wished you'd die.

Also, Seaguy!

Send it to me tonight, Patel! plz

Eric P · « **Reply #67 on:** May 08, 2009, 06:21:31 PM »

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google "nameofcomicyouwantofind site:mediafire.com"

http://www.google.com/search?q=seaguy+site%3Amediafire.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

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duckman2000 · « **Reply #68 on:** May 08, 2009, 06:51:46 PM »

I assume everyone has already read WE3?

Oh, and if anyone wants them, I have a bunch of David Mack stuff that is just collecting dust. Some Kabuki episodes, and this limited edition Kabuki Collection envelope with cardboard images. I'm not really a Mack fan, and I have no idea where/how to sell comic stuff, so hey.

Reb · « **Reply #69 on:** May 08, 2009, 06:52:25 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on May 08, 2009, 06:51:46 PM

I assume everyone has already read WE3?

Just did, it was awesome.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #70 on:** May 08, 2009, 08:52:54 PM »

Thor is really really good. You can read it without reading any other Marvel comic and completely get what's going on.

patrickula · « **Reply #71 on:** May 08, 2009, 09:15:24 PM »

I didn't think 7 Soldiers was all that great, but All-Star Superman is wonderful (the first volume anyway, haven't read the second yet).

Eric P · « **Reply #72 on:** May 08, 2009, 09:33:16 PM »

mainstream pap i like

hawkgirl - chaynkin and simonson bring us a moody woman who does not love the man she is destined to love.

garth ennis punisher - punisher, turned to 11

all new atom - gail simone and john bryne bring us a new schlep of a "hero"

blue beetle - tiny bit of continuity porn, but it's about a catholic teen hispanic blue beetle VERSUS THE UNIVERSE. a lot of fun

checkmate - a bit continuity porny - secret agent superheroes from ruka

conan - darkhorse did a damn great job on this series. speaking as a conan fanboy

cthulhu - EXCELLENT horror series. think sandman, but dark as fuck. not a plot faithful adaptation but a tone faithful one.

drafted - humanity is invaded and pressganged into an intergalactic war by a "benevolant" race. seriously, this is stupid good

girls - i am saying nothing about this series for fear of giving you any sort of preconceptions. just go and get it.

immortal iron fist - matt faction and rucka rock your pathetic face off with the adventures of a multimillionaire kung fu master

pigeons from hell - joe r lansdale adapts robert e howard and kills a lot of people

Darunia · « **Reply #73 on:** May 08, 2009, 09:36:54 PM »

Been reading the new Deadpool series just now, it's pretty good. Best moment so far: http://i40.tinypic.com/2f07oza.jpg

Debaser · « **Reply #74 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:32:37 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on May 08, 2009, 09:33:16 PM

girls - i am saying nothing about this series for fear of giving you any sort of preconceptions. just go and get it

I finally disagree with you on something! (Well, besides Finder, I guess.) I found Girls to be kind of obvious and ultimately pointless. Also rather clumsily drawn.

Anyway, to round out the rest of my filthy indie picks now that I'm at home... um... actually, I covered pretty much everything I wanted to except for Gene Yang's awesome American-Born Chinese.

For mainstream stuff, I'll second Eric P's recommendation of Immortal Iron Fist and add Empowered, a tongue-in-cheek parody of T'n'A superheroine books; Planetary, an awesome pastiche/investigation of popular comics in general; and Girl Genius, which I guess is technically indie but has everything I wish mainstream superhero stuff had in it, so I say it counts. (Get the color volumes, not the B&W ones.)

Eric P · « **Reply #75 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:39:47 PM »

have you read The Sword?

Debaser · « **Reply #76 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:44:01 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on May 08, 2009, 10:39:47 PM

have you read The Sword?

No, is that from the Luna brothers too?

Eric P · « **Reply #77 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:44:45 PM »

yeah it's their new series. check it out.

TVC15 · « **Reply #78 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:50:55 PM »

What exactly is the definition of "continuity porn?"

duckman2000 · « **Reply #79 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:52:12 PM »

David Mack: officially so shit that you can get even give the shit away.

Debaser · « **Reply #80 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:54:27 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on May 08, 2009, 10:50:55 PM

What exactly is the definition of "continuity porn?"

If you'd read the thread we had a few months ago*, you wouldn't have to ask.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

*Gotcha! There was no such thread. -Smilin' Stan

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Eric P · « **Reply #81 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:59:17 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on May 08, 2009, 10:50:55 PM

What exactly is the definition of "continuity porn?"

fan service of the highest calibre so that only people who have been reading a book for literally years will know why X character doing Y action is TOTALLYFUCKINGAWESOMEPANTSOMGICAN'TWAITTOBLOGTHIS!

TVC15 · « **Reply #82 on:** May 08, 2009, 11:01:56 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on May 08, 2009, 10:59:17 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on May 08, 2009, 10:50:55 PM
What exactly is the definition of "continuity porn?"

fan service of the highest calibre so that only people who have been reading a book for literally years will know why X character doing Y action is TOTALLYFUCKINGAWESOMEPANTSOMGICAN'TWAITTOBLOGTHIS!

That's what I figured, but isn't there a big difference between the focus on continuity in Blue Beetle and say, the X-Men comics? I think a bit of continuity is fine and doesn't necessarily make it porno.

Debaser · « **Reply #83 on:** May 08, 2009, 11:03:24 PM »

Continuity porn is a story or entire series built entirely around celebrating the company's history and characters, rather than telling an interesting story. Like when Geoff "Captain Yesterday" Johns writes the Justice Society of America to bring back Wildcat and the like, characters no one wanted or cared about for a decade before the series started. (Substitute "Paul Jenkins" for "Geoff Johns" and "Captain Marvel" for "the JSA" and you've got the same syndrome on Marvel's side.) DC in particular has been really egregious about it recently: ever since Zero Hour, they do a new continuity-resetting miniseries every few years that accomplishes nothing except to make things more complicated, not less. Other examples of continuity porn:

-Infinite Crisis
-Wolverine: Origins
-The new Booster Gold series
-X-Men: Legacy

Eric P · « **Reply #84 on:** May 08, 2009, 11:05:54 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on May 08, 2009, 11:01:56 PM

Quote from: Eric P on May 08, 2009, 10:59:17 PM
Quote from: TVC 15 on May 08, 2009, 10:50:55 PM
What exactly is the definition of "continuity porn?"

fan service of the highest calibre so that only people who have been reading a book for literally years will know why X character doing Y action is TOTALLYFUCKINGAWESOMEPANTSOMGICAN'TWAITTOBLOGTHIS!

That's what I figured, but isn't there a big difference between the focus on continuity in Blue Beetle and say, the X-Men comics? I think a bit of continuity is fine and doesn't necessarily make it porno.

yeah you're right there is a bit of a difference

blue beetle, slutty myspace shots

x-men gaping asshole 14 way horse bukkake gang bang of some underage eastern european girl who lost a leg to a landmine fleeing bosnia

patrickula · « **Reply #85 on:** May 09, 2009, 12:30:56 AM »

Planetary's good... I'm looking forward to the fourth volume finally coming out

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #86 on:** May 09, 2009, 02:24:13 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on May 08, 2009, 09:33:16 PM

conan - darkhorse did a damn great job on this series. speaking as a conan fanboy

I would just like to mention that I also love DarkHorse's Conan series. I buy all the TPBs, they're awesome.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #87 on:** May 09, 2009, 03:56:47 AM »

A good, concrete example of continuity porn is the episode of Enterprise dedicated to explaining why Klingons had smooth foreheads in TOS but bumpy foreheads in TNG. It's smoothing over something fanboys care about first and being a narrative second if at all.

Diunx · « **Reply #88 on:** May 09, 2009, 12:24:43 PM »

I hope that when Osborn loses his shit Spidey is the one that takes him down, its about time they let spiderman kick some major league ass again :spiderman

Diunx · « **Reply #89 on:** May 21, 2009, 06:25:35 PM »

There was a Detective Comics #854 preview on supergirl this week! it looks fucking gorgeous

Eric P · « **Reply #90 on:** May 21, 2009, 06:26:36 PM »

the costume really works there.

love the redesign

Diunx · « **Reply #91 on:** May 21, 2009, 08:11:40 PM »

Invincible was AWESOME! this book has the best fights on the superhero genre.

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Author Topic: Comics discussion (Read 10565 times)