Author Topic: Blue Dragon is absolutely fantastic (Read 3160 times)

The Sceneman · « **on:** June 06, 2008, 04:29:47 PM »

not as good as Lost Odyssey but still absolutely brilliant. How FFXII trounced it review wise is fucking ridiculous.

Games 'Journalism'

Enough talk, Im going to go play some more mwahahaha

hyp · « **Reply #1 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:31:41 PM »

aww you got rid of the tag. $:-\$

it was so fitting!

Himu · « **Reply #2 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:31:56 PM »

ff12

The Sceneman · « **Reply #3 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:33:32 PM »

Quote from: hyp on June 06, 2008, 04:31:41 PM

aww you got rid of the tag. $:-\$

it was so fitting!

yeah I guess... I think buying a 360 later means lots of catchup lolz.

im going to be playing MGS4 same time as everyone though

disgruntled_jojo · « **Reply #4 on:** June 06, 2008, 05:26:06 PM »

I thought Blue Dragon was a by-the-numbers JRPG snorefest. Same as the hundred games in it's genre before it. I quit playing after about 6 hours with a strong urge to go and complete DQ8, which is the superior Toriyama game. I guess it could be fun if you haven't been following the genre.

FFXII shook things up a lot, introduced a lot of new concepts to the genre (although mostly copped from other genres) and had a setting that's really unparalleled. That's why it trounced.

Himu · « **Reply #5 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:11:11 PM »

ffxii didn't really introduce any new concepts to the genre. we've had ai controlled characters since early phantasy star and early dq

demi · « **Reply #6 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:11:45 PM »

USE A GUIDE FOR THE ITEMS AND MONSTERS or you are gonna flip also make a SPARE SAVE for the minigames

This game has probably the most time consuming and frustrating achievements

The Sceneman · « **Reply #7 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:18:27 PM »

yep Ive got a print out guide for the missable items and what tricky monsters pop up and when. So I should be sweet as, Im using multiple saves so I should be all good... Im not looking forward to the minigame achievements

But after trying to get Treasure Trove I feel like I can manage anything, at least you know where these achievements are and exactly how to get them

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #8 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:28:35 PM »

I guess I should asked this here:

Can someone tell me why I would like the game if I didn't like the demo? How long is it? Is there a lot of grinding?

Third · « **Reply #9 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:29:51 PM »

This is a very shitty game IMO. The gameplay is so slow, and why does the camera always switch behind the enemy when you give the final blow?

I tried to like it, bu no. It sucks.

Lost Odyssey is awesome though.

Vizzys · « **Reply #10 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:47:40 PM »

I liked it but lost interest

that and slowdown

lost odyssey is much better

the boss music is really cool tho

demi · « **Reply #11 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:56:46 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 06, 2008, 06:28:35 PM

I guess I should asked this here:

Can someone tell me why I would like the game if I didn't like the demo? How long is it? Is there a lot of grinding?

It's good sized length, and no there is not a lot of grinding, you can casually breeze through, which is a negative, the game is pretty easy - if you want an actual challenge, get the Hard Mode patch asap

Rman · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2008, 07:45:52 PM »

I've almost finished the game and I've quite enjoyed it. It's very old school, but I think that's part of the charm. Some of the towns are just so vibrant and I love the Toriyama art.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2008, 09:26:20 PM »

woo just got the perfect wagon escort achievement

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #14 on:** June 06, 2008, 09:29:45 PM »

Like LO, I put about 40 hours into it then lost interest. Prolly pick it back up again some day.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #15 on:** June 06, 2008, 10:42:16 PM »

Quote

The gameplay is so slow

Lost Odyssey is awesome though.

does not compute

Crushed · « **Reply #16 on:** June 06, 2008, 10:57:35 PM »

Quote from: Viz on June 06, 2008, 06:47:40 PM

the boss music is really cool tho

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tiesto · « **Reply #17 on:** June 07, 2008, 01:50:42 AM »

Game was awesome, albeit a bit easy, but I didn't know about the hard mode d/l before I started my game. Only real problem I had with the game was the screen tearing in some of the battles, and the first few hours were kinda slow. But once you get through the mural cave the game just keeps getting better and better. Not sure if I'd give the nod to this or Lost Odyssey, to tell you the truth... Mainly because I had a lot of problems with disc-read-errors in LO on the final disk. And because I liked the music in BD a lot more.

Eeew FFXII. FFXII was the most soulless RPG I've ever played. It wasn't that it was a horrible game, it was just that it seemed like nothing happened for 80 hours, and the gameplay was almost completely automatic, I hardly ever had to change my gambits around or manually input commands, apart from when I battled a few of the secret summons.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #18 on:** June 07, 2008, 06:52:58 PM »

I'm buying this bitch

The Sceneman · « **Reply #19 on:** June 07, 2008, 08:05:52 PM »

good call, game rules

Im gonna play it all day today, hopefully the game wont crash again

The Sceneman · « **Reply #20 on:** June 12, 2008, 06:05:59 PM »

up to disc 3 now (and got every achievement on the way, and every missable item and monster

)

game keeps on getting better and better! Story is quite simple but I love all the throwbacks to older rpgs... and the characters are really likable. Still not as good as Lost Odyssey but still really really good

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #21 on:** June 12, 2008, 06:16:44 PM »

Are the achievements time consuming, or quick and easy with the guide?

The Sceneman · « **Reply #22 on:** June 12, 2008, 06:29:51 PM »

ummmm, huhuh. Really fucking time consuming and really easy to miss. Basically you need a guide to make sure you dont miss any items and monsters for the item/monster record achievements. And you need to make sure you use multiple saves, as there are mingames that pop up that only turn up once and you need to get perfect scores for those achivements. And most of the other ones involve getting everything to level 99, which involves lots of grinding. I hear a lot of people finish the game and end up with less than 50 points or so on it...

But with a guide it isnt too bad, I just read up on where everything is etc. and rotate your save slots and you'll be fine

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #23 on:** June 12, 2008, 06:56:08 PM »

Meh, I probably won't bother then. If they were specific but quick I'd go for it.

You'd think they'd just come out with free DLC that encapsulated all the minigames into an option on the title screen, or something.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #24 on:** June 12, 2008, 07:15:38 PM »

yeah youd think so, but they left it pretty hard. They were voted some of the toughest achievements of 2007 on xbox360achievements.org

The Sceneman · « **Reply #25 on:** June 12, 2008, 07:37:39 PM »

also I wonder how many times Shu says 'I wont give up!' through the course of the game. Must be 100+

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #26 on:** June 12, 2008, 08:18:30 PM »

Why do you and demi use that site instead of achieve360points.com?

The Sceneman · « **Reply #27 on:** June 12, 2008, 08:38:56 PM »

I dunno, its the only one I knew of... always sorted me out

The Sceneman · « **Reply #28 on:** June 13, 2008, 05:58:40 PM »

disc 3 pwns, finally got the airship so I can cruise around and explore and stuff... so much to do!

Blue Dragon

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #29 on:** June 13, 2008, 06:02:16 PM »

I played the intro for like 5 minutes and instant boner.

I got a permanent HP bonus for checking out the well, is shit like that really common? Should I use a guide so I don't ahev to keep jamming on A or just play normally?

The Sceneman · « **Reply #30 on:** June 13, 2008, 06:03:46 PM »

to be honest I wouldnt bother with that shit, just play it. If you find something, cool but the stat boosts are always quite minimal. Im making sure I check out every corner of the dungeons for all the treasure and I always seem to be overleveled. Its an easy game

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #31 on:** June 13, 2008, 06:05:56 PM »

Well I'm gonna go with Hard mode. But ya, if finding them isn't a major part of the gameplay I'll just hang lose, using guides really annoys me.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #32 on:** June 13, 2008, 06:09:36 PM »

yeah let me know how Hard Mode goes... Id be interested to know if theres any extra grinding

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #33 on:** June 13, 2008, 07:11:07 PM »

At first I was like wtf this game is shit hard

Then I got the dragons and I dominate

I'm grinding on these red and black robots just in case, I'll keep you posted.

MoxManiac · « **Reply #34 on:** June 13, 2008, 07:12:03 PM »

I need a good reason to suffer Toriyama's hideous art, I don't think Blue Dragon has one.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #35 on:** June 13, 2008, 07:17:22 PM »

well you either like jrpgs or you dont

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #36 on:** June 13, 2008, 07:28:48 PM »

waitaminute

does this have an actual world map?

this

The Sceneman · « **Reply #37 on:** June 13, 2008, 07:44:24 PM »

yeah its awesome huh, so good when you get the airship, you can explore every nook and cranny

Beezy · « **Reply #38 on:** June 13, 2008, 07:47:11 PM »

I was never able to get into this game. The beginning was too slow and I always seemed to be tired whenever I tried to play it. I'll try it again when I'm done with Lost Odyssey (currently on disc 3).

It's achievements seem like bullshit though.

Darunia · « **Reply #39 on:** June 13, 2008, 07:54:27 PM »

I have yet to pick up an rpg for the 360 but that honor will most likely go to Lost Odyssey this summer, just seems more appealing. I've played the BD demo and couldn't get over the terrible soundtrack. I heard that the demo's not representative of the final game but still. I also liked the look DQ VIII had more, a game I put 90 hours in, probably my favorite rpg

Bildi · « **Reply #40 on:** June 14, 2008, 02:21:57 AM »

A lot of people say the BD demo is crap compared to the full game, but I'm not sure the full game addresses my problems:

- unfortunately the protagonist's voice instantly put me off;
- the level design seemed really boring - like paths drawn out on a dead flat table.

I'm not particularly enthralled by the character design but that's not a deal breaker. I thought the battle system was inventive. Overall I wanted to like it but was turned off very quickly.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #41 on:** June 14, 2008, 10:39:21 AM »

The main dude is really annoying in the first hour.

I WILL NOT BE DEFEATED!
I CAN DO ANYTHING IF I JUST TRY HARD ENOUGH
I WILL BEAT YOU... I CAN DO IT!
NO ONE CAN STOP ME!

He says most of those verbatim. We get it dude!

The Sceneman · « **Reply #42 on:** June 15, 2008, 03:12:17 AM »

hes like that for the rest of the game

demi · « **Reply #43 on:** June 15, 2008, 03:15:24 AM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 14, 2008, 10:39:21 AM

The main dude is really annoying in the first hour.

I WILL NOT BE DEFEATED!
I CAN DO ANYTHING IF I JUST TRY HARD ENOUGH
I WILL BEAT YOU... I CAN DO IT!
NO ONE CAN STOP ME!

He says most of those verbatim. We get it dude!

He's a man

Don't go fingering your pussy cause he exudes manliness

pilonv1 · « **Reply #44 on:** June 15, 2008, 03:17:27 AM »

is there any character customisation or item crafting in blue dragon? I dont remember any

The Sceneman · « **Reply #45 on:** June 15, 2008, 03:21:29 AM »

the whole Shadow system allows you to fully customise your characters with whatever skills you like. Theres a couple of items you can put together and make and stuff, but nothing major

pilonv1 · « **Reply #46 on:** June 15, 2008, 03:27:57 AM »

thats cool, would be nice to have something different after LO

The Sceneman · « **Reply #47 on:** June 16, 2008, 11:59:04 PM »

fucking game is a banger, 400 achievement points and climbing bitches

Im up to the infamous golden poo grinding part

TVC15 · « **Reply #48 on:** June 17, 2008, 12:18:49 AM »

Blue Dragon is probably one of my favorite RPGs. It scratched my nostalgia itch while at the same time giving me a new game to play. It was like playing an old Final Fantasy game for the first time, a pleasure we will never know again. And it was also a bit DQ-y, particularly towards the end what with the side quests and all.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #49 on:** June 17, 2008, 01:54:11 AM »

Im kind of sick of grinding poos already $:-\$

demi · « **Reply #50 on:** June 17, 2008, 01:56:01 AM »

Quote from: Scenester on June 17, 2008, 01:54:11 AM

Im kind of sick of grinding poos already $:-\$

You beat the game already? Now you get to spend the next 50 hours grinding and leaving your Xbox on

The Sceneman · « **Reply #51 on:** June 17, 2008, 03:08:40 AM »

haha yeah. Ive already got all the minigame achievements out of the way, and the 100 back attacks/monster fights ones, and the all barriers/warps ones. All thats left to do is max everyone and beat the big baddies. Oh and complete the item/monster records

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #52 on:** June 18, 2008, 02:34:49 PM »

I finally had a chance to play some more, game rules.

Is there any way to gain new skill slots besides the Generalist class? Does that class level up quickly? It'd be lame if you were forced to grind a separate class just to get full use out of your primary class.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #53 on:** June 20, 2008, 06:09:24 PM »

I'm sure glad I did Hard mode. I've been killing lots of extra enemies (not quite grinding) yet this first boss kills all my guys in one hit and restores more health by defending than I can do to him in a single turn.

Oh cool, and when he does mow down it wipes out my entire party. I guess I'll play FF9, I'm not redoing 2.5 hours of gameplay on piss easy mode.

demi · « **Reply #54 on:** June 20, 2008, 06:16:03 PM »

You are the biggest pussy this side of the missisisssisispi

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #55 on:** June 20, 2008, 06:16:37 PM »

Not rly. I hate grinding.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #56 on:** June 20, 2008, 06:25:04 PM »

Why are you playing on HArd then?

Love it when people complain about a game being hard when they are playing on hard.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #57 on:** June 20, 2008, 06:27:05 PM »

Because I was told that normal was a joke and I don't feel compelled to build characters and experiment with classes if I can dominate the game anyway. Supposedly hard was just a normal difficulty, though demi hasn't even tried it. There's an Impossible difficulty above it, too.

The normal battles are still shit easy, but I went ahead and fought them extra just in case. Then you come to a boss that kills you in one hit unless you grind more. It's not like I have a myriad of abilities and items to experiment with, and he can wipe out my party using one move.

I shouldn't have expected balance from a 1200kb download I guess.

I have 2:45 on the clock, I could probably rush back to this point in a little over an hour if I wasn't doing extra battles and poking around at rocks, maybe I'll start over in a week.

demi · « **Reply #58 on:** June 20, 2008, 07:25:42 PM »

So grind more and get the skills that will help you beat him

It's no different form Lost Odyssey...

So yes, you are a vagina

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #59 on:** June 20, 2008, 07:34:03 PM »

Which part of 'grinding is boring to me' don't you get?

I breezed through LO. Outside of the first two bosses LO is a joke, and those bosses don't require grinding. You haven't even tried BD hard mode.

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Author Topic: Blue Dragon is absolutely fantastic (Read 3160 times)