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Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« on: June 16, 2008, 10:04:51 AM »
We still need Gradius VI etc...

Konami has been a dead-fuck most of this gen sans the lovely football game...

When will they wake up?

Bring on ZOE 3 - more Big Boss tales, etc...

How about a Contra SRPG (Red Falcon Vs earth army units)?

Get busy.


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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2008, 10:06:53 AM »
I think the games I want most are Gradius VI and Suikoden VI... looking forward to seeing what Konami has in store now that MGS4 isn't taking up all their manpower/budget.
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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2008, 10:08:19 AM »
Who needs Gradius when there's OTOMEDIUS??  :bow2
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2008, 10:22:12 AM »
From the looks of it, Otomedius looks very similar to Gradius in its in-game weapons selection mechanism. Personally, I'd like to see Parodius.

I'd like to see a shmup in first person, like Descent but without the nausea-inducing 6 dof.

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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2008, 10:59:03 AM »
Otomedius is essentially the "next-gen" version of Parodius.
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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2008, 11:21:56 AM »
Something tells me they haven't quite turned a profit on MGS4 yet

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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2008, 11:22:39 AM »
Otomedius is essentially the "next-gen" version of Parodius.

Ah... no wonder. I dunno how those cutesy anime space chicks relate to the previous series, though...  :wtf

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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2008, 11:32:12 AM »
Otomedius is essentially the "next-gen" version of Parodius.

Ah... no wonder. I dunno how those cutesy anime space chicks relate to the previous series, though...  :wtf

Like the cutesy anime space/bunny chicks that are in almost all the other Parodius games?   ;)

The characters in Otomedius were all designed by Keroro Gunso artist Yoshizaki Mine.  It might be hard to tell from pictures, but they are actually riding IN Gradius-style "ships"...it's just that their torsos and legs are sticking out.  There's also one male character playable.  I've largely stayed away from the game in arcades, waiting for the home version for 360.



The blue-haired girl is using the Vic Viper.   :)
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2008, 11:45:13 AM »
Otomedius is essentially the "next-gen" version of Parodius.

Ah... no wonder. I dunno how those cutesy anime space chicks relate to the previous series, though...  :wtf

Like the cutesy anime space/bunny chicks that are in almost all the other Parodius games?   ;)

The characters in Otomedius were all designed by Keroro Gunso artist Yoshizaki Mine.  It might be hard to tell from pictures, but they are actually riding IN Gradius-style "ships"...it's just that their torsos and legs are sticking out.  There's also one male character playable.  I've largely stayed away from the game in arcades, waiting for the home version for 360.

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The blue-haired girl is using the Vic Viper.   :)

Well, to be fair, previous versions of Gradius didn't give me the impression that there were cutesy chicks piloting the ships - not that there is anything wrong with anime babes!  :hyper Knowing my luck, this won't be out for the PS3...

Parodius is different - it's a shmup with all the most noteworthy characters from Konami's IP. I've been playing both games and Twin Bee  :heartbeat since the NES days.

Is this the Keroro as in the space frog you're talking about?

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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2008, 11:49:41 AM »
Konami=The Metal Gear Solid Company, sadly.  I, too, was a big old-school Konami fan.  I do enjoy their Igavanias, however, I want some more triple aaa stuff from them that's not MGS.

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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2008, 12:45:23 PM »
All I need from them is ZOE3.

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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2008, 12:45:39 PM »
now that fucking game mgs4 is done, i hope we can finally get suikoden 6
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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2008, 12:46:52 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2008, 12:47:41 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2008, 12:53:28 PM »
contra universe in the hl2 engine?

UT engine?


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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2008, 12:55:12 PM »
contra universe in the hl2 engine?

UT engine?



2d on ds.
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2008, 12:56:49 PM »
contra universe in the hl2 engine?

UT engine?



2d on ds.

Right - we all played that on the SNES - I want a GOOD Contra themed FPS...story driven w/ online war modes...kinda like resistance's format.


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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2008, 12:58:07 PM »
IN FACT - use the Resistance engine for the Contra game.


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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2008, 12:59:34 PM »
contra universe in the hl2 engine?

UT engine?



2d on ds.

Right - we all played that on the SNES - I want a GOOD Contra themed FPS...story driven w/ online war modes...kinda like resistance's format.



a contra fps

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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2008, 01:01:14 PM »
Contra themed FPS...

story driven

resistance

wow, you are the biggest taco ever
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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2008, 01:04:08 PM »
Fuck you with >>>4-donkey-dongs<<<<

The RED falcon enemies, tanks, stages, robots COULD be epic in a FPS.


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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2008, 01:08:42 PM »
why the resistance engine, it looks/runs like shit

unless you wanna make contra: shattered glass
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2008, 01:10:11 PM »
a contra fps is the worst idea i've heard for a game in a long time
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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2008, 01:13:04 PM »
a contra fps is the worst idea i've heard for a game in a long time
seriously, wtf

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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2008, 01:14:50 PM »
STORY DRIVEN :rofl
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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2008, 01:15:05 PM »
a contra fps is the worst idea i've heard for a game in a long time
it's the equivalent of...

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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2008, 01:18:38 PM »
Seriously though, I want a new Rocket Knight Adventures/Sparkster.

Also, Castlevania DCX for psp proved that Konami still has a penchant for classic Castlevania. I say make a new Castlevania classic based and not Metroidvania based.

Finally, I want Suikoden VI god dammit.

Throw in a REAL Silent Hill 5 and some new IP's and we're game.
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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2008, 01:21:32 PM »
why the resistance engine, it looks/runs like shit

unless you wanna make contra: shattered glass

The metallic surfaces look great in it.

The game also needs lots of moving environment stages...and a few jungle stages.


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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2008, 01:25:04 PM »
One would think Contra would be best suited in 3d as a rail shooter ala Sin And Punishment or Panzer Dragoon or something third person based with linear levels.

Why fps? and why story based?

I know that's the trend these days but I just don't see it.
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« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2008, 01:28:06 PM »
A Contra fps is one of the worst ideas ever.

I mean, the series is known for its gameplay and its gameplay alone.  If you take that away, you're really left with nothing worthwhile.

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« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2008, 01:29:29 PM »
"BILL... CAN REVENGE BLOOM ON THE BATTLEFIELD"

"LET'S ATTACK AGGRESSIVELY"


Oscar-worthy story. :bow2
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« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2008, 01:31:58 PM »
because to make the game a visual sensation they would have to take the contra universe and draw it differently. It needs a REAL CONTRA look makeover ;)

We wont have 2 guys running thru stages with bright blue and red combat pants on...

It should be a serious looking take on the contra setting but still feature gravity defying non conventional gameplay.

We can still ride missiles in some stages and drive a 2player co-op tank stage or 2 in the insides of a giant alien.

The game should make you move fast - for example if you take too long in an area the zone gets bombed or something ending your game...

I guess they could even use the MGS4 engine with different character gameplay mechanics.

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« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2008, 01:33:54 PM »
"BILL... CAN REVENGE BLOOM ON THE BATTLEFIELD"

"LET'S ATTACK AGGRESSIVELY"


Oscar-worthy story. :bow2

a game can be story driven and feature minimal gay and unnecessary dialogue....what if the story is just brief scenes of destruction that make the war setting seem more grim?

It doesnt have to be a fucking opera.



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« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2008, 01:36:14 PM »
We wont have 2 guys running thru stages with bright blue and red combat pants on...

shit
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« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2008, 01:50:43 PM »
MGS4 will stimulate one thing and only one thing at Konami: MGS5.

All that needed to be said.

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« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2008, 01:57:25 PM »
What do you think the re-release of MGS 4 a year from now will include?

MGS4: Subspace



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Re: Will MGS4 allow Konami to get stimulated again?
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2008, 08:39:45 PM »
Only Contra can bring the frightening topic of xenomorph invasion to the masses, just as MGS4 made us realize the reality of PMC's

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« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2008, 08:41:48 PM »
what is red falcon?

WE are red falcon!
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« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2008, 09:03:48 PM »
Suiko6 is the only thing Konami needs to be working on right now.

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« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2008, 09:30:57 PM »
RING OF RED ONLINE FUCK YES
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« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2008, 10:51:21 PM »
How 'bout we see how mgs sold first...the game must've cost a billion to make...

They might only have enough money left for Life Force 2 DS.  or Goonies III.  Which is cool, too.

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« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2008, 11:43:59 PM »

Contra themed FPS...

story driven

resistance

Play HAZE.
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« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2008, 11:49:31 AM »
Still want them to make Coded Arms and Silent Hill 5.

Konami better make a shitton of money. I'm SICK of MGS, gimme new and exciting shit(I'd even play the Contra FPS, if it isn't waggle).
It's a shame that Coded Arms console project was a failure (internally).  The concepts were nifty and the trailer released was excellent.  It COULD have been something great in the right hands (which it clearly was not).

I really do miss Konami this gen.

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« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2008, 07:23:57 PM »

Contra themed FPS...

story driven

resistance

Play HAZE.


But haze is trash.

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« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2008, 07:28:35 PM »
There's a reason why Contra IV is so loved among gamers and that's because it eschewed all the bullshit elements like story and focused on actually being what Contra is. If they get the tone and intensity right with a FPS shooter then more power to them, but how often does that happen?
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« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2008, 07:44:18 PM »
Their's a reason why Contra IV is so loved among gamers and that's because it eschewed all the bullshit elements like story and focused on actually being what Contra is. If they get the tone and intensity right with a FPS shooter then more power to them, but how often does that happen?

yes older diversions have been shitty....

and contra iv isnt THAT good.

I think they just need the right dev's/engine....keep the same music and art direction.

Prole - red falcon is enemy alien army boss in most contra games - except shattered soldier and I believe NEO Contra where it is Blood Falcon.

I think both of those odd PSOne games feature non RedFalcon enemies....



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« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2008, 07:55:29 PM »
like it has to have all of the elements - jungles loaded with cyborg turrets, barriers with weak spots that must be pummled with shots while aliens pour onto the screen/area non-stop.

A giant skyscraper sized robot that must be fought in segments.

A stage where you ride non controllable items like rafts or missiles....

powerups fly thru the sky and must be shot resulting in power ups that randomly ark up and out onto the ground like the 2D game....

stages in random design bases where a map must be followed to make it thru in time....

they can make it fast paced, fan service out the ass and actually good.

It needs to be a short well scripted well crafted game that people want to play thru over and over and over for score/time etc...so it cannot feel encumbersome or complex at all.

Flashy 60 FPS GFX...it would need to be able to attract quarters as a coin-op offering....its not a long and involved shooter - I can be beaten in 1-2 hours, but has many many alternate routes both selectable and secret. There should be 50 or so hours of total potential stage time in total alternate routes, but no single path to the final boss takes more than 2 hours + max.

A stage where you drive a dual turret tank thru a giant alien ship. =)

Its needs to be a GFX showcase - none of this "it looks kinda PS2ish but runs at 60 FPS!" shit.




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« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2008, 09:36:20 PM »
There's already 9237238328328303203290390239023903472394234890235434.6 FPS games out there.  We don't need another one, especially made out of a classic series like Contra.  The side-scrolling shooter style that is the classic Contra is a rare genre these days.  More of that would be nice. 
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« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2008, 03:54:57 AM »
OK OK - How about if its not an FPS but instead a well scripted 3rd person shooter like Gears?


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« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2008, 04:18:21 AM »
OK OK - How about if its not an FPS but instead a well scripted 3rd person shooter like Gears?



There's shit like that out too.  Keep it 2D sidescrollin'.
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« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2008, 04:33:04 AM »
Otomedius is awesome and all we need.  I played the shit out of that in the arcades and will do so again on the 360, I just hope that they add new levels to it.

Have we not learned by now that anything Contra not 2D=crap?

Maybe Konami could work on...a new IP?

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« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2008, 04:36:17 AM »

Have we not learned by now that anything Contra not 2D=crap?

sillyness - appolusa sucks - contra can be good in 3D