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SR2 confirmed to take shit on GTA4
« on: June 19, 2008, 08:20:11 PM »

THQ CEO Brian Farrell says that Saints Row 2 is different enough from other sandbox titles to stand out and be a success.

The original Saints Row from 2006 sold over 2 million copies on Xbox 360 and was well-received by critics, but the general consensus was that it copied a lot from the reigning king of crime sandbox, Grand Theft Auto.

And with the Volition-developed Saints Row 2 launching in the same year as GTA IV, Farrell sought to convince investors that this sequel would offer something different from Rockstar's hit megafranchise.

"We have a very differentiated product in this open-world genre," Farrell said during the William Blair & Company's investor meeting Wednesday in Chicago.

"We're always concerned about GTA as a competitor. It's a great product, the leader in the genre. But we were actually very pleased when we saw GTA IV. It's a great game, but they went in this great creative direction [that makes the game] more character- and story-driven."

He said that Saints Row 2 will instead be about "tongue-in-cheek ... silly, over-the-top gameplay."

Farrell said, "...They had gone this way on the branch, we've gone the other."


He added that Saints Row 2 will feature lots of character customization, "a lot" of downloadable content, a "larger, richer environment," a unique combat system and a "seamless" two-player co-op mode.

Farrell reiterated, "We think that we have a very differentiated product with Saints Row 2."

In May, THQ opted to delay the release of Saints Row 2 by two months to October 14, due to quality and marketing considerations.

Prior to the delay, Farrell said that Volition asked for more time to polish the game, adding that the October window puts the title a safe space away from the flood of Christmas season titles.

Asked whether or not Volition's financial bonuses would be reduced by releasing a game late even if it turned out to be high-quality, Farrell said, "In this case, no. That's a decision that will come back to corporate. We don't want to create the wrong incentives.

"We're going to move the date for the right reasons. They weren't late because they didn't execute," he said. [They just said,] 'Hey, how much better can we make it with this additional polish and iteration.'"

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Re: SR2 confirmed to take shit on GTA4
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 08:25:11 PM »
The story will likely still suck. Dick jokes Volition? Really?  ::)
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Re: SR2 confirmed to take shit on GTA4
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 08:27:43 PM »
I prefer characters with well-developed sexual desires like whatever Niko's cousin is named.

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 08:29:52 PM »
Nobody gives a shit about Redneck GTA.

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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 08:33:53 PM »
Saints Row was confirmed better the day GTA 4 game out
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2008, 08:41:55 PM »
The first game had a shitty story, shitty music, shitty city. How can this ever be better?
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2008, 08:43:00 PM »
Because who cares, custom soundtracks, falsehood

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2008, 08:45:44 PM »
Like GTA4 had a "Good Story" lol.

Who cares
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2008, 08:46:09 PM »
why custom soundtracks in the first place when I might as well just leave iTunes playing in the background.

Sorry but I like a game with a well thoughtout soundtrack.

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Like GTA4 had a "Good Story" lol.

Who cares

GTA did have a good story. Not the best of the GTA's but way better than that trash Saints Row.

Seriously, who did they get to write that POS games story? A wigger?
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2008, 08:55:01 PM »
West Side.

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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2008, 08:57:16 PM »
Saints Row story is epic, like LOTR
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2008, 08:58:27 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2008, 09:01:50 PM »
GTA4 also has a crappy radio and a crappy story, oops


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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2008, 09:04:24 PM »
I read in an interview for SR2 that if you make your character black the police pay more attention to your activities

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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2008, 09:05:27 PM »
Saints Row story is epic, like LOTR

They even have him


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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2008, 09:50:33 PM »
October marks the return of the true king. Ballin!

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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2008, 11:32:06 PM »
Mercenaries 2 is releasing this year and it's gonna shit on both GTA4 and SR2.  It's too bad it's barely getting any attention
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2008, 12:22:05 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2008, 12:23:50 PM »
So, how's the online for SR2? Same as SR1?

There is co-op now, so that is a huge plus.

And man, fuck this shit.  I'm going to freckle bitches.

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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2008, 12:24:52 PM »
FRECKLE BITCHES
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2008, 12:44:57 PM »
The story will likely still suck. Dick jokes Volition? Really?  ::)

Good dick jokes take a long time to get right.

Mercenaries 2 is releasing this year and it's gonna shit on both GTA4 and SR2.  It's too bad it's barely getting any attention

Right now, seriously, would you want to spend money competing for attention against GTA IV's hype machine? I know EA has a firehose that squirts money, but I don't think they want to use it until the crazy boom dies down.

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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2008, 12:56:12 PM »
what's wrong with dick jokes?

gta makes poop jokes and stupid jokes all the time. THERE'S A INTERNET CAFE CALLED TW@ FOR GOD'S SAKE.

shit, security trucks in gta are traditionally called gruppe sechs. Group sex? Are you shitting me?

And gta fanboys who don't think realistically like yours truly give saints row shit for having dick jokes? wtf is wrong with dick jokes? I like dick and I like jokes.
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2008, 06:57:03 PM »
Nobody gives a shit about Redneck GTA.
:lol Indeed.
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2008, 07:26:52 PM »
Because GTA is subtle with them and doesn't make a point to point out how funny they are.

"THAT BITCH GAVE ME AIDS"

LOLOLOLOL Erm, no. Not funny Volition.

Learn to fucking write you hacks.
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2008, 07:34:04 PM »
The first game had a shitty story, shitty music, shitty city. How can this ever be better?

I would actually say that Saints Row had a comparable selection of music to GTA4 if not better.  Original music for GTA4 was better, but not the case with radio stations.

Because GTA is subtle with them and doesn't make a point to point out how funny they are.

"THAT BITCH GAVE ME AIDS"

LOLOLOLOL Erm, no. Not funny Volition.

Learn to fucking write you hacks.

Yeah, the humor is pretty bad.  Sometimes it is so absurd that it is actually funny in a wahjah way.

But, let me retort.  Saints Row gameplay is fun.  FUN.  Fun
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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2008, 07:35:50 PM »
Because GTA is subtle with them and doesn't make a point to point out how funny they are.

"THAT BITCH GAVE ME AIDS"

LOLOLOLOL Erm, no. Not funny Volition.

Learn to fucking write you hacks.

Subtle? Tw@? The entire character of Roman?

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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2008, 07:36:36 PM »
I meant within story elements. Outside of that is free game and GTA is no better, but it doesn't incorporate that shit into it's story.

Also Saints Row had 0 interesting characters. I can't even remember one. Except for Johnny Gat because his name is about as original as Volition.
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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2008, 07:39:03 PM »


I rest my case.

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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2008, 07:42:21 PM »
I meant within story elements. Outside of that is free game and GTA is no better, but it doesn't incorporate that shit into it's story.

Also Saints Row had 0 interesting characters. I can't even remember one. Except for Johnny Gat because his name is about as original as Volition.

Roman isn't in the GTA4 story?

Who cares about story, it's a sandbox game. And GTA4's plot sucked - it died soon after you got to Algonquin, meandered around with the mob for no reason, then had a ridiculous ending and final mission.

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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2008, 07:43:36 PM »
Roman isn't as bad as everything in the actual game of SA, character wise. Seriously.

And I care about story. I play these games for the stories, not for the gameplay. I actually hate most sandbox games but love em for the story.
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« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2008, 07:44:39 PM »
Methodis is getting annihilated... even Himuro accepted the fact SR destroyed GTA all those years ago
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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2008, 07:45:08 PM »
And SR doesn't try to get anyone to take its shit seriously.

I'll take silliness on top of silliness over silliness in what's supposed to be this epic drama. Especially when the latter game chooses to compromise gameplay in order to meet its storytelling goals.

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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2008, 07:50:08 PM »
GTAIV's story is not subtle and neither is its humor. In fact, they tend to shove it in your face. The immature acts in GTA are to celebrated but when Saints Row does it it's shit, it's a travesty, it's a waste of dvd, and it's apparently juvenile while GTA is allowed with things like burning weed fields and making the main character high.

The hypocrisy is hilarious.
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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2008, 07:52:09 PM »
I've seen so many fellow GTA fans say stuff like,"Throw shit on people? What is this junior high school? Saints Row can keep its 12 year old audience. GTA is for grown ups." Right. Meeting a gay man online and killing him in a cafe is totally grown up. The best parts of GTAIV are the entirely juvenile ones like the example above. Fuck matoor.
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« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2008, 08:01:42 PM »
I just popped in SR and there's a new patch for it. Were these plastic surgeons always in the game?

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« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2008, 08:02:16 PM »
AV, yeah, they've always been there.

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« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2008, 08:02:23 PM »
Patches dont stay on your system, if you havent touched it in a long while. I think it cycles, like the cache does.
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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2008, 08:06:05 PM »
I just popped in SR and there's a new patch for it. Were these plastic surgeons always in the game?

Yeah, it has always been there.  When I first created my character, my roommate made fun of it saying he looked like a pussy asian emo kid (I don't see how he got to that), so I went and changed it to the cowboy from the Knights of Cydonia music video, except with green hair and wearing a sports jacket.

I think the patch added in the option for vsync which lowered the frame rate, but got rid of the eye slashing tearing going on.

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« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2008, 08:07:31 PM »
I just don't get how GTAIV is subtle. I thought GTAIII was subtle in some of its characterization, but not entirely. I just don't see how IV falls into that category.
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« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2008, 08:07:57 PM »
Patches dont stay on your system, if you havent touched it in a long while. I think it cycles, like the cache does.

Oh, didn't know that.

Still better than GTA4




How can anyone defend GTA after playing this game? 15 seconds of playing and you realize you can run fast without tapping and select weapons without feeling like you have Downs.

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« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2008, 08:12:28 PM »
 How the fuck is GTA sublte?

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« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2008, 08:14:54 PM »
Patches dont stay on your system, if you havent touched it in a long while. I think it cycles, like the cache does.

Oh, didn't know that.

Still better than GTA4




How can anyone defend GTA after playing this game? 15 seconds of playing and you realize you can run fast without tapping and select weapons without feeling like you have Downs.

I didn't really love GTA4, I loved SA the most.

But Saints Row was just an abomination, story wise. Terrible, terrible, terrible.

Insurance fraud was fun but the story was unbearable, and since I play games for stories, it was painfull to beat it.

Although the mission at the end of the game with the truck on the free way was cool.

Plus THQ was fucking distinguished mentally-challenged and spoiled the game in the first commercial released for it before it came out.
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« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2008, 08:23:51 PM »
why do people keep saying SR is an abomination story wise while saying SA is amazing and shit?

SA's story is way worse than SR's. SR's story is very similar to GTAIII's with a dash of SA, except it stays far more consistent than SA, similarly to the III. It remembers what it's about: gangs and shit.

SA goes from boyz in the hood to fucking james bond, and people defend that shit? once you leave los santos, SA's story turns into total balls. Stealing a fucking jetpack from area 51? you shitting me?

III and VC are the only gta stories worth talking about, and III's is the best because it's the most grounded, the most basic, and the most fun.

As for Saints Row, it's basically anything you'd expect GTA except character relationships are MUCH more interesting and realistic. I've done only the Kings set of missions and it has better character interaction than any GTA. Warren against King. Tanya taking over the King's. Johnny. Aisha and Johnny's relationship.. Lin is awesome too. Bitch be undercover and fucking shit up. You can't top that. Shiiiet, GTA got topped. The only bad thing about Saints Row's story is that it doesn't treat the city more realistically and that comes mostly from playing GTA so much. It's just silly to see white, black, mexicans, and asians all in the same gang admidst males and females in the same gang. I'd prefer it if you had a gang that was nothing but women, a gang that was nothing but blacks, a gang that was nothing but mexicans, and a gang that was nothing but asians.

But that's it. SR rocks.
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« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2008, 08:31:02 PM »
I swear Himuro, if I didn't want to be a virgin i'd sit down and tell you how fucking stupid you are for every saying that Saints Row has a better story than any GTA and it's more realistic.

It's just so god damn stupid. And like I said, they spoiled tanya dieing with a commercial from before the game even came out. Even THQ knew the game had a shitty story, enough to spoil it before hand.
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« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2008, 08:32:49 PM »
Tanyas death is like 1/3ds in of the story if you do the Vice Kings Missions first. Its no biggie.

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« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2008, 08:49:32 PM »
SA had a good story because it was so over-the-top and ridiculous, and it didn't even pretend like it was supposed to be serious. That's the way SR2 needs to be, not "OMG, ACADEMY AWARD, INTERACTIVE MARTIN SCORSESE FILM!"
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« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2008, 11:54:35 PM »
How the fuck is GTA sublte?

Maybe he was speaking "relatively." Compared to a spunk-coated 2x4 between the eyes it's, like, Victorian. It might as well be poetry.

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« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2008, 11:57:03 PM »
Johnny Gat is Jin from LOST too, btw, dont forget that
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« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2008, 11:58:51 PM »
Saint's Row had much better aiming [in-car and on-foot] and an inventory system that actually worked.
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« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2008, 12:04:48 AM »
Johnny Gat is Jin from LOST too, btw, dont forget that

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« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2008, 12:10:05 AM »
Saint's Row had much better aiming [in-car and on-foot] and an inventory system that actually worked.

I think GTA4 has better in-car aiming than Saints Row, but that is the one thing it has over it in terms of gameplay.

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« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2008, 12:10:58 AM »
Johnny Gat is Jin from LOST too, btw, dont forget that

Automatically better than GTA4. GTA4 didn't even have James Woods or David Cross in it, WTF Rockstar? I guess they couldn't afford to get anybody cool to be in it after they bought all those reviews.
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« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2008, 12:31:17 AM »
Saint's Row had much better aiming [in-car and on-foot] and an inventory system that actually worked.

I think GTA4 has better in-car aiming than Saints Row, but that is the one thing it has over it in terms of gameplay.

I don't really like GTA4's in-car aiming because you have to hold down the bumper to shoot/bring up the reticule and the camera won't stop moving around. With SR, the reticule is there automatically and the camera stays put long enough to shoot the things you're aiming at.
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« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2008, 12:58:27 AM »
i have to stop in order to shoot in a car in saints row. i definitely prefer gta4's aiming there.
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« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2008, 11:11:09 PM »
i have to stop in order to shoot in a car in saints row. i definitely prefer gta4's aiming there.

I do appreciated that in GTAIV you can drive, steer, and shoot your gun at the same time, but I really don't like wrestling with the camera to get it to stay on what I want to shoot at.
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