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Don Flamenco

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Zone of the Enders 2- who knew?
« on: June 21, 2008, 09:10:03 PM »
I just started this.  wow, what the fuck, I've heard some faint praise here and there, but damn, this shit is awesome!  These are some of the best graphics on the PS2, some of the best animation, and of course, 60fps like MGS2.  Seems like a serious sleeper hit.

Does the whole game stay as fun as the first hour? 

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Re: Zone of the Enders 2- who knew?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 09:11:24 PM »
Crate level is ass but the rest of it is awesome.
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Re: Zone of the Enders 2- who knew?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2008, 09:15:11 PM »
Definitely the only Kojima game worth caring about
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 09:18:36 PM »
Yeah, it owns. Real short though. I should play through it again soon.

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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 09:30:54 PM »
ZoE2 is awesome, but I think am one of the few big fans of ZoE1.  I want a ZoE3 and anyone on this or any other forum thinking it should be for the Wii can go to hell.

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2008, 09:38:04 PM »
a fuck awesome game from the fuck awesome future
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2008, 09:55:38 PM »
hopefully not a future of crate levels!
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2008, 10:07:04 PM »
Probably my favorite game on the PS2, some of the best graphics ever on the PS2. Awesome game. Hopefully ZOE3 is Kojimas next game.

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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2008, 10:18:45 PM »
I just started this.  wow, what the fuck, I've heard some faint praise here and there, but damn, this shit is awesome!  These are some of the best graphics on the PS2, some of the best animation, and of course, 60fps like MGS2.  Seems like a serious sleeper hit.

Does the whole game stay as fun as the first hour? 

It's the best improved sequel ever. They realized the best parts of ZOE were the set pieces and basically made ZOE2 just that, set piece after set piece.

Also I would hold my breath with the whole 60fps comment.  :lol
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2008, 10:28:30 PM »
The one section of ZoE2 that was like a slide show was hilarious.  The awesome music helped eased the annoyance.

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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2008, 10:46:32 PM »
Kojima has nothing to do with ZOE2 (well, he produced it). It's directed by Shuyo Murata, who co-directed and co-wrote MGS4. Kojima has been grooming him to take over MGS after he's done (though obviously Kojima refuses to be done. With MGS primed for Raiden's story and an action-game director at the helm, it seems obvious where they are going next.
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2008, 10:53:17 PM »
Shinta Nojiri and Shuyo Murata can tag team and do the next MGS game if they need to.  Both are perfectly capable of it.

I think too many people put too much weight on Kojima when it comes to Kojima Productions.  I don't know how much Kojima himself had to do with Boktai or ZoE, but both those series are awesome.
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Re: Zone of the Enders 2- who knew?
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2008, 02:53:15 AM »
i really wish the crate level didn't suck as bad as it does.  i'm hardly ever able to replay the game because i always get slammed while escorting that whiney fuck.  i just want to be able to run through hard without using new game+. 

jehuty's ultimate power is hands-down the best powerup you can get in any game.  sooooo fucking fun.  anyone out there done 100% of the missions?
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2008, 02:58:30 AM »
I own it, but crate level makes me not wanna bother, thats a horrible segment
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2008, 06:02:20 AM »
good game although overrated
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2008, 06:04:03 AM »
said GTA4 man!
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Himu

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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2008, 06:05:41 AM »
:(

i like it, but i don't see how it's the best action title of last gen like some folks say

oh well! at least it's got good graphics :drool
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2008, 06:16:29 AM »
good game although overrated

totally agree

The game only really got fun for me when I past the halfway point of the game, better mission design. Then of course you get Zero Shift , which completely kicks ass. Still, I played it after reading all the insane accolades on GAF and elsewhere and I felt the game really didn't live up to those.

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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2008, 10:51:42 AM »
i like how the opening spoil the whole game lol.

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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2008, 11:13:46 AM »
The game isn't overrated. It's overrated at GAF. I don't think it sold great and never ever hear anyone talk about it except over there. It is way better than the first one though.

Also, I don't remember being annoyed by a crate level.

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Re: Zone of the Enders 2- who knew?
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2008, 11:21:13 AM »
ZOE 1 and ZOE 2 are both good.


Don Flamenco

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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2008, 11:31:23 AM »
Even if people came all over it at gaf (no surprises there), this game is not overrated any where else. I picked it up based on Koji Pro and faint praise at other sites...

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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2008, 11:54:59 AM »
Zoe1 is my most hated game ever.  combat is really simple, there's only 3 enemies and 5 bosses, the game forces you to go into areas over and over again because it doesn't actually tell you where you're supposed to go, and it has THE WORST story i have ever witnessed outside of a high school english paper, and even though it's only three hours long it feels like it will never end.  fuck i hate hate hate that game.  ZOE2 is the real starting point for the series.
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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2008, 12:00:52 PM »
I put a few hours into the ZOE gba game before.  it was kinda lame.  but it had anime characters in mech suits talking about how "'dey was from da streets" which was entertaining. :lol

MrAngryFace

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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2008, 12:20:08 PM »
ZoE1 was not good
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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2008, 12:33:48 PM »
Just wait until you get the Vector Cannon


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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2008, 12:37:12 PM »
ZoE1 was great.  Not nearly as good as ZoE2, but still great.  It also had one of the most awesome boss battles at the end since you couldn't win.  Boss Battles that force you to lose or run away like a wimp are awesome.

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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2008, 01:28:18 PM »
no, those battles are stupid.  and ZOE1 was especially stupid because the goal was to survive for just ten seconds, and because it was THE LAST BATTLE IN THE GAME THAT THE WHOLE GAME HAD BEEN BUILDING TO.  you'd be hard-pressed to find an ending that rips you off more than that. 

and i don't think i properly expressed my rage toward the aimlessness in the objectives throughout the game.  after the first boss, most of the game is "oh we need an item go find it!"  "where would i do that?" you ask.  but the game does not tell you.  instead you must enter every different area on the map until you trigger a cutscene. then you get the item, go back and finish the level, then repeat this at least TEN TIMES over the course of about two hours.  then there's a few shitty boss battles (and one good one), then game over fuckers.  HORRIBLE GAME
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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2008, 02:15:41 PM »
Yeah, that boss battle is awesome.   :bow Forcing narrative through gameplay  :bow2

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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2008, 02:48:10 PM »
zoe1 sucked
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Re: Zone of the Enders 2- who knew?
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2008, 02:51:41 PM »
zoe1 sucked


it was better than the demo that came with it
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Himu

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« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2008, 03:18:11 PM »
you must be fucking shitting me

I played MGS2's demo more than I played ZOE1 in total
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« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2008, 03:40:45 PM »
It wasn't ZOE with MGS2 demo included. It was MGS2 demo with the ZOE beta included. Luckily for us they dumped pretty much everything from the Beta and started from scratch.
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« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2008, 04:40:19 PM »
 :lol
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« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2008, 12:23:40 AM »
Just got to Mars.  There was a kick ass fight right after delivering that guy--I got my ass kicked over and over and had to, like...actually use strategy and all the moves to survive, which doesn't seem to happen outside of Ninja Gaiden and DMC4 these days. 

Oh, and now I'm fighting Vic fuckin' Viper. Game of the forever.  Oscar-worthy story!

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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2008, 12:31:33 AM »
First time playing this on PS3.

I think I've found the SOLITARY use of the PS3 triggers!!! (for the record I like the triggers, but whatever)

Boosting continually with Jehuty is SO EASY on the DS3. Makes the vic viper fight a piece of cake. You can rev R2 like a gas pedal and push it to the max.

The Vic Viper battle is really awesome.
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Re: Zone of the Enders 2- who knew?
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2008, 01:18:10 AM »
what an awesome game.  thanks demi.

cool breeze

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« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2008, 01:18:59 AM »
I am thinking about replaying this tomorrow, but I just worry that the wanting for ZoE3 will only be worse because of it.

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« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2008, 01:22:42 AM »
The graphics was good but the gameplay was just so-so.  It's kinda like Dynasty Warrios with an extra axis of movement.   Almost anyone can beat the game by pressing 1 button 90% of the time. 

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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2008, 01:27:26 AM »
play it on hard mode then, bee-yotch
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« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2008, 01:35:59 AM »
one of the best action games ever. the dynasty warriors level and the one with the cruisers in low orbit are FUCK AWESOME. i need to replay it.

:-* murata :-*

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« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2008, 12:39:42 PM »
I would've much rather had ZoE3 than  MGS4  8)

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« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2008, 01:14:09 PM »
Got to the Vic Viper fight, did it for like an hour then put this game down and never played it again.  That's after having died a number of time in the previous level.  Frustrating game.

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« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2008, 02:09:18 PM »
Got to the Vic Viper fight, did it for like an hour then put this game down and never played it again.  That's after having died a number of time in the previous level.  Frustrating game.
It's not very hard to figure out his pattern (ADA will even help if you super sux),  but it is a lot of manual dexterity involved I guess.
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« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2008, 02:11:03 PM »
i only had trouble with that bitch.

the one where i have to grab her or some shit.

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« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2008, 04:06:12 PM »
i only had trouble with that bitch.

the one where i have to grab her or some shit.

grab the poles or grab her? viola?
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Re: Zone of the Enders 2- who knew?
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2008, 04:06:52 PM »
Got to the Vic Viper fight, did it for like an hour then put this game down and never played it again.  That's after having died a number of time in the previous level.  Frustrating game.
It's not very hard to figure out his pattern (ADA will even help if you super sux),  but it is a lot of manual dexterity involved I guess.


Speaking of which, is there a way to turn off her hints?  Shits annoying. 

This game can be brutal.  If you sit around or rush things, you can get killed pretty easily.

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Re: Zone of the Enders 2- who knew?
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2008, 04:07:51 PM »
Got to the Vic Viper fight, did it for like an hour then put this game down and never played it again.  That's after having died a number of time in the previous level.  Frustrating game.
It's not very hard to figure out his pattern (ADA will even help if you super sux),  but it is a lot of manual dexterity involved I guess.


Speaking of which, is there a way to turn off her hints?  Shits annoying. 

This game can be brutal.  If you sit around or rush things, you can get killed pretty easily.

Actually, the hint system is pretty intuitive. You know you can answer her...if you answer negatively enough, she just stops suggesting things.

The only thing that annoys me about ZOE2 is the "snap" camera. It really rears its ugly head in the crate level....you can't even really look to the left without the camera doing a 90 degree rotation.

But OMG its so awesome! ZOE2 really has the fastest action game combat. I love when you wade into a swarm of little shits and the camera just shows Jehuty slicing through them like cheese.
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Re: Zone of the Enders 2- who knew?
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2008, 04:14:15 PM »
i only had trouble with that bitch.

the one where i have to grab her or some shit.

grab the poles or grab her? viola?
the fight where she holds ken(?) hostage.

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« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2008, 04:37:59 PM »
i only had trouble with that bitch.

the one where i have to grab her or some shit.

grab the poles or grab her? viola?
That's the only fight that I had problems with. For some reason I was having trouble grabbing the poles.

My favorite stage from this game has to be the aerial stage where you have to take out some huge airships, while fighting regular enemies and dodging a shitload of fire at the same time. :heart