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I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« on: June 21, 2008, 11:15:09 PM »
I was going to pair those latest HD4850 in crossfire, a quad, a good mobo, 4 GB of nice ddr2, one of those nice cases that cost 200e, nice PSU, etc

It was going to cost lik 1500e. I was pretty happy. Then i started thinking....Why?

I mean seriously, i started looking and there isn't anything worth spending that amount of cash on a PC right now. I already played Crysis, and you go to any place and all you see are freaking console ports i've already played, then you look at the release list, and you have MORe console ports.

Jesus christ, i just can't get myself to waste all that money on a platform that will give me a couple games at best. And i won't use the extra power for work.

Seriously, can someone throw me a good list of reasons to make a gaming PC right now? List some of those nice PC exclusives games that have came out just recently, or are coming out in the next couple of months that justify spending 1500e in PC right now.

I'm actually pretty pissed, i was very much looking forward to it.

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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 11:17:36 PM »
pc has no games

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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2008, 11:21:30 PM »
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky

Honestly, what other games could you possibly need?
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 11:23:54 PM »
I just use my new PC for games that arent coming to X360, or games that have shit achievements that I dont want on my Gamercard (FEAR, Dark Messiah)
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 11:26:19 PM »
How about just getting ONE 4850, TWO gigs of RAM, and well, go ahead and splurge on a case, a bad ass case is bad ass.

Or don't.

Listen man, PC gaming is not something you step lightly into. You don't dip a toe. You plunge your whole Goddamn foot in, horizontally, because your entire body is following it, because you're DROP KICKING the motherfucker.

If spending $1500 in Queen Bucks gives you pause, consider walking away. It will not get better.

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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2008, 11:26:53 PM »
You already played Crysis?

So don't you already have a pretty decent PC, then?
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2008, 11:27:09 PM »
honestly, there's no reason to build a top of the line gaming PC

if I can run WoW at 60fps, that's good enough for me
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2008, 11:27:33 PM »
If Crysis is your "bar" for PC gaming, then consider PC gaming a dud. Crysis is shit, dude.
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2008, 11:32:11 PM »
You already played Crysis?

So don't you already have a pretty decent PC, then?

I played crysis on my friend's 3D workstation. It was pretty sweet. You could feel the POWA burning your fingers when you touched the keyboard.

It's not really about wasting 1500 or 3000 on a PC. Is the concept of spending money right now on a PC. If i'm buying a new Pc i want a good one, that's how i roll.

Problem is, as soon as time came to actually buy it i failed to find reasons convincing enough to make me spend the money instead of keeping my 5 year old PC, and let it do what it has been doing.

I guess the problem is that i have consoles? I kinda wish i hadn't right now lol. Maybe i'll sell them, they cramp my style whenever someone of the opposite sex steps into my house anyway.

"Oh you have a playstation, and an xbox?" "Oh never mind about that....." "Is that a Wii?" "It's my sisters." "I love the wii." "Mii too baby, let's have sex".
« Last Edit: June 21, 2008, 11:35:28 PM by WrikaWrek »

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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2008, 11:38:40 PM »
Do the consoles cramp your style more or less than living with your sister?

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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2008, 12:14:43 AM »
It's always weird to me when I see people looking to get a pimped out gaming PC for no reason.

Not really because I can't imagine gaming without a PC (for me, it's all I play on), but because even if you have an older PC there's still lots of stuff to play, and it's out of playing those older games that you get interested in newer ones. A person playing Shogun: Total War or something might be playing that and go "omg, I'd love to try out the newer games in the series! Look at the graphics and all the gameplay elements they've put in!" or the occasional TA fan running his ancient P3-733 computer who saw a video replay of Supreme Commander and creamed in his pants. And so on.

So take your five year old PC and start gorging on games that look interesting that you can play well. It's those games that lend reasonable rationale to upgrading to the newer games in the genre that have both more advanced tech and evolved gameplay features.

Also, I am chilling with my first generation Core 2 Duo and first-run 8800GTS, the system cleaves through whatever game I throw at it save Crysis, which is just one game.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2008, 12:21:15 AM by Fragamemnon »
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2008, 03:14:17 AM »
Also, I am chilling with my first generation Core 2 Duo and first-run 8800GTS, the system cleaves through whatever game I throw at it save Crysis, which is just one game.

this. hell, nowadays you can toss in a cheap quad-core and an 8800GT for less than what Frag paid for his ages ago.

don't upgrade unless you have a specific title in mind.
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2008, 03:20:20 AM »
i upgraded because I was on some AMD 1.2GHz and a 9700 Pro for the past 4 years... i dont plan on upgrading this box for the next 4 or so either.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2008, 09:20:27 AM »


you're wilde homo if you don't get it

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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2008, 09:27:06 AM »
I bought this game thanks to gafhype and I couldnt get it at all. I followed the tutorial.. then promptly quit the game. I thought I was going to be so much into it, but it never clicked at all.

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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2008, 10:04:10 AM »
Do the consoles cramp your style more or less than living with your sister?

I'm 21 man, i live with my mother.

Shit.

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you're wilde homo if you don't get it

I have a 2.8 P4 with a Fx5950 and 2 gb of ram. This thing is fine for playing point and click adventures, old school games, Football manager, etc. I think it can play solar empire.

I can't play stalker or COD or Crysis on it. Company of heroes runs like shit, world in conflict doesn't even run. I would like to play Stalker and World in Conflict.

And i will want to play Dragon Age from Bioware. Fallout 3 should be better on the PC right? Shit....maybe i have reasons enough. This will to spend money is crazy.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2008, 10:09:00 AM by WrikaWrek »

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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2008, 01:58:43 PM »
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky

Honestly, what other games could you possibly need?

I'm expecting stalker to come out for X360 too.

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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2008, 02:10:33 PM »
I less than the cost of a Wii to get my graphics card and I can play any game on high or very high.

The reason PC gaming is so great is because you get to play the best versions of all games with any controller you want.  CoD4 and Bioshock are 100 times better on PC.  Oblivion is 40 billion times better on PC.  Fallout 3 will most likely be billions better than the shitty console version.  Same with Far Cry 2. Pretty much all games are better on PC.

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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2008, 02:14:38 PM »
That's the best part about PC gaming - I don't have to support any devs

Crysis 2 only on Xbox 360 :bow
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2008, 02:15:54 PM »
Crysis is fun, but it doesnt really break any new ground in terms of gameplay. Not every game is required to do that, mind you.
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2008, 12:07:18 AM »
Mafia 2- oh wait, those fegs at illusion only announced a sequel for the 360 and PS3 to a game that started and was amazing ON FUCKING PC.
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2008, 12:32:57 AM »
I have a 2.8 P4 with a Fx5950 and 2 gb of ram. This thing is fine for playing point and click adventures, old school games, Football manager, etc. I think it can play solar empire.

I can't play stalker or COD or Crysis on it. Company of heroes runs like shit, world in conflict doesn't even run. I would like to play Stalker and World in Conflict.

And i will want to play Dragon Age from Bioware. Fallout 3 should be better on the PC right? Shit....maybe i have reasons enough. This will to spend money is crazy.
I had basically the same specs and I upgraded recently.  Now I'm just pissed at having to relearn everything for Vista.

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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2008, 08:17:57 AM »
conan is beautiful

i would love to run that at full spec

but to do so i need a better processor

my 2.2 c2d and 8800gts 512 runs it really well, but I'd love to crank dat

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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2008, 08:29:26 AM »
I still dont se that list of awesome PC games the OP asked for............................


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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2008, 10:32:57 AM »
I still dont se that list of awesome PC games the OP asked for............................




These are just a few games that are much better on PC.  I am not gonna name exclusives here, because if I did that I would also have to mention the fewer worthwhile ones each console has.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2008, 10:36:38 AM by swaggaz »

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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2008, 12:49:36 PM »
Oblivion on consoles is a crime , especially given the new release of the POOP modcomp, which makes the process feel a lot less like installing a Linux distro from raw source code and more like modding a game.

The appeal of the PC, much like all of Gaul, can be divided into three parts:

1) Best of breed multiplatform games-better resolutions, better performance, better controls, more features, free online play. For recent examples, look at COD4, Oblivion, Mass Effect PC, Asssasin's Creed PC, Quake Wars and so on. You get the 576/640p, janky 30fps experience on the console, and get the 1920x1200 60 fps experience on the PC. Most of the games that push the hardware the strongest nowadays are in this category (Crysis is the exception, not the rule).

2) Online gaming and games supported by virtual communities-it's not just the  MMOs, from which there are like many decent choices on the PC, but it is the communities that surround all sorts of other games that make the PC somewhat unique. For example, I participate regularly in strategy gaming challenges and tournaments for older games like the Impressions' City Builders and Panzer General 2/3 (ten year old games!), and for newer games like Civilization IV. All of this is done mostly via communication through the web through message boards where the players of the game gather around, which is the very best virtual community organization tooling available.  Message boards and communities are the reason why good, older PC games still have players and the good Xbox Live enabled game is empty three months after release. Diablo 2 has thousands of people playing it with an active virtual economy despite predating Xbox Live entirely, for example.

These communities also generate a ridiculous amount of usermade content for free for their games. Some of it being very, very good.

3) Games that have no home on consoles. These can range from spreadsheet wargames with their vast, loving expanses of hexes to real time strategy games that suck total donkey with a controller to flight and naval simulations-and a whole lot more! There's little appeal for these games from the console userbase so they don't get made, but they are very numerous on the PC and offer gaming experiences you can't get on the console.

I find myself attracted to 2) and 3) as the reason why I play on the PC. 1) is nice every once and awhile for when I want lighter fare, it is for me just an added bonus to the other factors.
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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2008, 12:58:29 PM »
You are forgetting the customization and community aspects to PC gaming.

In consoles, if you don't like something, you are fucked.  On the PC, if you don't like something, you can change it.  Chances are someone has already changed it and all you need to do is download and patch it in.  Hate gates around towns in Oblivion? gone! Want Alyx naked in HL2? Get mental help after, but it can be done!

Not to mention that games like Counter-Strike were made for the community for free and it is one of the most popular FPS games ever.  And console gamers paying for maps :rofl.  Such suckers.

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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2008, 02:01:50 PM »
My laptops hd is so small, it was only 80gb and I have a pretty decent rig, enough to run most games from 2006 and below but no space.


How hard is it ot replace a hd on a laptop?
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2008, 02:05:37 PM »
My laptops hd is so small, it was only 80gb and I have a pretty decent rig, enough to run most games from 2006 and below but no space.


How hard is it ot replace a hd on a laptop?

It should be pretty easy. I know the manufacturer for my notebook has instructions on how to do this for my model on their website. Most laptops use commodity drives nowadays, easily obtainable from NewEgg.
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Re: I was going to waste 1500e on a PC
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2008, 02:08:08 PM »
Oblivion on consoles is a crime , especially given the new release of the POOP modcomp, which makes the process feel a lot less like installing a Linux distro from raw source code and more like modding a game.

The appeal of the PC, much like all of Gaul, can be divided into three parts:

1) Best of breed multiplatform games-better resolutions, better performance, better controls, more features, free online play. For recent examples, look at COD4, Oblivion, Mass Effect PC, Asssasin's Creed PC, Quake Wars and so on. You get the 576/640p, janky 30fps experience on the console, and get the 1920x1200 60 fps experience on the PC. Most of the games that push the hardware the strongest nowadays are in this category (Crysis is the exception, not the rule).

2) Online gaming and games supported by virtual communities-it's not just the  MMOs, from which there are like many decent choices on the PC, but it is the communities that surround all sorts of other games that make the PC somewhat unique. For example, I participate regularly in strategy gaming challenges and tournaments for older games like the Impressions' City Builders and Panzer General 2/3 (ten year old games!), and for newer games like Civilization IV. All of this is done mostly via communication through the web through message boards where the players of the game gather around, which is the very best virtual community organization tooling available.  Message boards and communities are the reason why good, older PC games still have players and the good Xbox Live enabled game is empty three months after release. Diablo 2 has thousands of people playing it with an active virtual economy despite predating Xbox Live entirely, for example.

These communities also generate a ridiculous amount of usermade content for free for their games. Some of it being very, very good.

3) Games that have no home on consoles. These can range from spreadsheet wargames with their vast, loving expanses of hexes to real time strategy games that suck total donkey with a controller to flight and naval simulations-and a whole lot more! There's little appeal for these games from the console userbase so they don't get made, but they are very numerous on the PC and offer gaming experiences you can't get on the console.

I find myself attracted to 2) and 3) as the reason why I play on the PC. 1) is nice every once and awhile for when I want lighter fare, it is for me just an added bonus to the other factors.

Sounds like co-dependancy, smh
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« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2008, 02:08:15 PM »
Just buy an external HDD for all your music/pron/divx shit and youll have enough space on your laptop HDD for all the games.

Thats the thing though, I can't for the life of me figure out whats eating all my HD space. 80 gigs just...dissapeared. I have like 20 gigs in music/movies but that's it. The other 60 gigs? The fuck knows were that went off too.
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