Year of P$3 Billion loss

[abrader]

There were games on X360 I liked - but the Game TR listed are must haves - Ratchet and Clank? Resistance? Motorstorm? Uncharted?

Frankly I have a hard time remembering titles on the X360 that match up.

Well name some - I just cant remember - I did love PGR3 and Forza 2

[AdmiralViscen]

the fuuuuuck

I never said PS3 didn't have any good exclusives either. You need to stop combining the words of everybody

You bend the facts to make your statements, as I've said many times now.  Cohen is just a little more loose with his words than you. 

i. was. doing. it. to. show. what. you. were. doing.

my first post went over your head

[Tigerriot]

the fuuuuuck

I never said PS3 didn't have any good exclusives either. You need to stop combining the words of everybody

Ok, you never did make the statement "the PS3 doesn't have any good exlusives", but you said just about everything besides that. 

Let's recap

"360 has more games" = "PS3 has no games"
"PS3 has the better lineup of games" /= "360 has no games" (you always take the high road, of course)
"The defining characteristic of the 40GB is a mistake" /= "The 40GB was a mistake" (making dishonest statements is not your forte)

What?  Give some context to what all that means, and who said what.

[abrader]

Now that I really think about the 50 X360 titles I had, there were really none I couldn't live without. Most of my must haves from that lot are also on PS3 along with other PS3 must haves that arent on X360 - so PS3 wins.

[AdmiralViscen]

the fuuuuuck

I never said PS3 didn't have any good exclusives either. You need to stop combining the words of everybody

Ok, you never did make the statement "the PS3 doesn't have any good exlusives", but you said just about everything besides that. 

Let's recap

"360 has more games" = "PS3 has no games"
"PS3 has the better lineup of games" /= "360 has no games" (you always take the high road, of course)
"The defining characteristic of the 40GB is a mistake" /= "The 40GB was a mistake" (making dishonest statements is not your forte)

What?  Give some context to what all that means, and who said what.

I really don't give a fuck dude, my first post was poking fun at you.

But you're doing EXACTLY what you're criticizing.

-Forum poster uses highest priced PS3 to make point - you act like everyone buys 360 wifi and full priced XBL
-I say 360 has the better lineup (which honestly should be a stone cold fact, it simply has more games on it) - You accuse me of saying PS3 has nothing on it
-You insist that the PS3 has the stronger lineup, yet obviously you are not implying anything negative at all about 360!
-You beat around the bush ripping on the entirety of Sony's 40GB strategy - but don't let it be said that the 40GB itself is a problem!

[Tigerriot]

You bend the facts to make your statements, as I've said many times now.  Cohen is just a little more loose with his words than you. 

I'm actually just trolling.

Congrats on intentionally wasting your time.

[Mupepe]

this thread is all sorts of 

[Tigerriot]

I really don't give a fuck dude, my first post was poking fun at you.

But you're doing EXACTLY what you're criticizing.

-Forum poster uses highest priced PS3 to make point - you act like everyone buys 360 wifi and full priced XBL
-I say 360 has the better lineup (which honestly should be a stone cold fact, it simply has more games on it) - You accuse me of saying PS3 has nothing on it
-You insist that the PS3 has the stronger lineup, yet obviously you are not implying anything negative at all about 360!
-You beat around the bush ripping on the entirety of Sony's 40GB strategy - but don't let it be said that the 40GB itself is a problem!

No, I'm not doing exactly what I criticized.  I never acted like everyone buys the 360 wifi adapter and you know it.  Go back and read what I said.  I clearly stated some people would buy it.  Which is true!  Therefore for those people it's a bad value proposition, because if they bought a PS3 that would never be necessary.

Xbox Live is pretty much mandatory for most people buying a 360.  Ok, so maybe you find a sale on a one year subscription.  Big deal.  It only costs $40 a year now.  The point is that adds up over time, and eventually means several hundred dollars over the life of  the console.  That's certainly worth mentioning when one is discussing the differences between a PS3 and 360, is it not?

Second, MORE GAMES DOESN'T MEAN BETTER ANYTHING.  More just means better to you?  Come on.  I'm a very picky game buyer.  I only buy the cream of the crop that interests me.  I wouldn't give a shit if they released 100 games a month for any platform, I'd still only buy 10-15 games a year.  More does not equal better.

Third, I NEVER ONCE suggested the PS3 had the better lineup.  Where the eff did that come from?  

Lastly, I only said their handling of skus was a joke this gen, so you want to assume I was talking about the 40gb?  Good for you.  I have problems with many of their decisions, and the 40gb is only lacking PS2 BC IMO.  Other than that I never said a bad word about it.  

[Tigerriot]

You bend the facts to make your statements, as I've said many times now.  Cohen is just a little more loose with his words than you. 

I'm actually just trolling.

Congrats on intentionally wasting your time.

Would writing several pages defending the ps3 be a better use of my time

At least when I waste my time typing things, I mean what I say.  The same can't be said for you.

[duckman2000]

$3B ain't shit to Chad Wardenn

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Yeah, I've got nothing

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[Smooth Groove]

There were games on X360 I liked - but the Game TR listed are must haves - Ratchet and Clank? Resistance? Motorstorm? Uncharted?

Frankly I have a hard time remembering titles on the X360 that match up.

I love how it's just an opinion when someone disagrees w/ you but it's fact when you list your own preferences. 

[abrader]

What are you talking about?

But instead of wasting more time - why not just tell me what games on the X360 match up to..

- Ratchet and Clank
- Resistance
- Uncharted
- Motorstorm

Well?

Man I wish I could get Bullet witch on PS3. Most X360 players dont give that game the respect it deserves.

[Smooth Groove]

You kidding?

GOW>Uncharted
Bunch of fps on 360> Resistance
R&C- No equivalent on 360 but so what?  Even PS3 fans don't care that much anymore about R&C.
Bunch of racers on 360>Motorstorm

[abrader]

Hahaha nice try - but you have failed to convince me.

Oh well - its still in the storage room if I wanna get it out and play it again.

I think the Wii is gonna get boxed up soon - it can keep the X360 company.

[Smooth Groove]

Well, it's kinda hard convincing a guy that liked Lair

[abrader]

Well, it's kinda hard convincing a guy that liked Lair

Now that you mention it - Name one game on X360 that matches LAIR! - one of the PS3's lighter games....

I mean LAir is so mediocre and underwhelming there must be something on X360 that rox it right?

[abrader]

Every single game I've played this gen on any system is better than Lair.  Real talk.

see thats just more crap - like it or not Lair covers a another niche in the PS3 library that X360 doesnt have an answer for.

[abrader]

BTW - Tigerriot is off shift now and my shift has just started up - keep the HOHOs coming.

[abrader]

Ace Combat is in the same genre.

No - Lair separates itself with the controls.

AC6 is just another flight stick combat game - of which the Play-station 3 has many.

[Smooth Groove]

Please stop, Abrader.  At least Tigerriot's Sfaggotry makes a little sense from a twisted point of view.  

[abrader]

Ill stop when you make a decent attempt to show how the X360 exclusive lineup competes.

At least PS3's exclusives arent all UE3 games.

[abrader]

thats right - flee in defeat.

P.S. Ratchet and Clank is yer daddy.

EDIT: Also - whats an F1 racing fan to do on the X360? hmmmmmmmmmm

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

What are you talking about?

But instead of wasting more time - why not just tell me what games on the X360 match up to..

- Ratchet and Clank
- Resistance
- Uncharted
- Motorstorm

Well?

Man I wish I could get Bullet witch on PS3. Most X360 players dont give that game the respect it deserves.

Hell, I'd take something like Earth Defense Force 2017 over Resistance, Motorstorm, and Ratchet and Clank anyday of the week.

[Smooth Groove]

I can't believe Abrader's supporting his argument with the fact that there's no 360 equivalent of Lair.

[duckman2000]

the thing that makes me laugh with Resistance is that it basically feels like COD mixed with Halo. Without the AI that makes Halo what it is.

It was amazing seeing the Halo haters all splooge over Cheddar Gorge, which as a level could have dropped straight out of Halo.

I really enjoyed Resistance though, i loved the boss battles, and i thought the online was good. but it's not as good as Halo 3. And i really don't see how people can love Resistance and -hate- Halo, that's just willfull wankery.

Yet I somehow doubt you'd say much when the tables are turned. Your one-sidedness is starting to cloud your charm, my man.

I can't believe Abrader's supporting his argument with the fact that there's no 360 equivalent of Lair.

Well, if he would at least have used Warhawk as an example. That's pretty unique to the PS3 right now, and it's even pretty good. Lair, OMG. I felt offended after playing the demo. Uniquely crappy.

[abrader]

I like Halo Trilogy and Resistance.

Halo is one of the few great exclusives on the XBOX.

[abrader]

So yeah - Full Auto II >>> Full Auto

[abrader]

Full Auto II >>> Full Auto

um, this is basically : Shit on left shoe smells slightly less worse than shit on right shoe.

So what car combat game released this gen is better?

[abrader]

How is the first one better? The 2nd one has 100% more destruction in the environments and an open arena mode like Twisted MEtal.

So just how is the first one better?

EDIT: GORF!

[Smooth Groove]

What mall zombie killer is available on the PS3?  Or beach bimbo game?  Or seriously, decent J-RPG? 

[duckman2000]

I like Halo Trilogy and Resistance.

Halo is one of the few great exclusives on the XBOX.

Well, we're a rare bunch. Looking over threads on the topics of Halo or Resistance, it'd seem as if it is practically impossible to actually enjoy both, despite every measure of reason suggesting that it should be quite easy to accomplish that, or at least be able to recognize that both games are pretty good games. Kittonwy forgiving Resistance for its every flaw while giving every aspect of Halo 3 a critical eye is lame, but there are plenty of kittonwy equivalents in both "camps."

edit: Full Auto. Guns on cars. How in the hell did that manage to not be cool?

[Don Flamenco]

I'm with Abrader.  Lair is a brilliant game and there really is no equivalent on the 360.  My frothing demand increases for a game with a more Oscar-worthy story.

[Smooth Groove]

As someone who plays most FPS on PC, I found Resistance to be utterly boring and Halo to be great in some parts and terrible in others.  I'd take the ups and downs of Halo over Resistance's consistent averageness any day.  At least, Halo made me excited a little.

[duckman2000]

That I can agree with. Resistance lacked, er, oomph. Which surprised me, as the most recent game of theirs was quite explosive, with insane battles against massive numbers of very cool enemies. I think they held back too much, presumably because they were too self-conscious of their cartoony roots. Sounds like they have changed that mindset quite a bit for the sequel though.

I'm really hoping Sucker Punch doesn't fall victim for the same type of self-restraint. I don't see why you can't combine a more "mature" game with some toon qualities, and it would be a shame if they didn't take advantage of stuff they do really well.

[abrader]

yeah it really gets good on that manchester map.

[duckman2000]

edit: Full Auto. Guns on cars. How in the hell did that manage to not be cool?

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but there are plenty of kittonwy equivalents in both "camps."

that's the problem - i expressed love for Resistance and Uncharted, but that's not enough. The ''camp" demands that you proclaim it game of the year/century, or else you are a troll.

Indeed. I made myself unwelcome by not falling in with the Uncharted barrelton movement, which was sort of weird. The whole game was built up like a good action movie, er, game, neither more nor less. Yet board dwellers gave it all of these properties that I don't think it was even designed to have, like claims of it being revolutionary and an incredible step forward in storytelling. It's a good action game, which suits me just fine. It might have some groundbreaking tech, but the content certainly wasn't. And it didn't need to be.

[abrader]

What mall zombie killer is available on the PS3?  Or beach bimbo game?  Or seriously, decent J-RPG? 

You finally made a god point - CAPCOM - WHERE IS MY MALL/CITY BASED ZOMBIE KILLER?

Beach Bimbo game? BUWAHAAH check PlayAsia - remember I have a PS3 game where you play strip rock scissor paper with j-models in their skivveys.

BUT JRPG? JRPG?

BUWAHAHAH  - the 40 and 80 GB PS3 models have more JRPGS than times you have eaten at the Y.

But man I do want a true next gen mass zombie count survival game. Next gen meaning not a bunch of Resident Evil 3 sized areas tacked together with long load times and scripted events driving the action - We ned an AI driven zombie population who dynamically changes their routes/behavior based on your behavior, movements and attacks.

Then the game could actually be different each playthru - not just feature the main character in one of 500 costumes for variation.

[abrader]

Also PS3 players get laid more.

They spawn many children across multiple mothers who all also buy Playstations.

[Smooth Groove]

Duckman, what online shooters do you play on the PC? 

BUWAHAHAH  - the 40 and 80 GB PS3 models have more JRPGS than times you have eaten at the Y.

Dummy, I didn't buy a PS3 to play PS1/2 games. 

[duckman2000]

Duckman, what online shooters do you play on the PC? 

These days? Not many. I don't seem to have time to get good at games these days, and if you're going to suck, you might as well play console games. Crysis online was awesome though, but I got my ass kicked all the time.

[Cormacaroni]

So what car combat game released this gen is better?

jesus, is there any other car combat games?

by the way , i didn't clarify it, but the FIRST one is better than the SECOND one in the Full Auto series. So can we chalk that up as a victory for the X360? (actually, that's a lie, )

Burnout FFS

smh

[abrader]

Duckman, what online shooters do you play on the PC? 

BUWAHAHAH  - the 40 and 80 GB PS3 models have more JRPGS than times you have eaten at the Y.

Dummy, I didn't buy a PS3 to play PS1/2 games. 

You said JRPG's.

Now get a PS3 and meet a girl.

[Tigerriot]

Threads like this prove you can take the people out of GAF, but you can't take the GAF out of people.

 :'(

 


For the record, I think Halo 3 is a much better game than Resistance.

[duckman2000]

Threads like this prove you can take the people out of GAF, but you can't take the GAF out of people.

 :'(

 


For the record, I think Halo 3 is a much better game than Resistance.

Me too. 

But I still think Resistance 2 sounds like it has a cooler feature-set than both, and the large scale battle deal has always been a favorite with me. They just need to make it more, I hate to use this term, epic.

[Smooth Groove]

Abrader, I bought a POS3 Blu-ray player at launch.   :'(

The PS3 owners get laid more angle is distinguished mentally-challenged for a 35 yr old man.  Stop embarrassing yourself.  

[abrader]

ummm yea that was a real angle.

drink a beer bitch.

[Smooth Groove]

I can see why even SGAF was ashamed to call Abrader one of their own. 

[abrader]

You still haven't explained the blanket statements and your undying love and allegiance for an antiquated box that uses RF, IR and DVD technology!

UE3 with 29 WAD files doesnt make a console library!

[Great Rumbler]

BUT JRPG? JRPG?

BUWAHAHAH  - the 40 and 80 GB PS3 models have more JRPGS than times you have eaten at the Y.

Why not just get a PS2 then?

[Smooth Groove]

You still haven't explained the blanket statements and your undying love and allegiance for an antiquated box that uses RF, IR and DVD technology!

UE3 with 29 WAD files doesnt make a console library!

Because the "anitquated" technology provided better graphics, faster load times and less controller dropouts?

[abrader]

You still haven't explained the blanket statements and your undying love and allegiance for an antiquated box that uses RF, IR and DVD technology!

UE3 with 29 WAD files doesnt make a console library!

Because the "anitquated" technology provided better graphics, faster load times and less controller dropouts?

[Crushed]

[Hollywood]

Too bad Kutagari isn't at Sony anymore, and the old E3. It would be too see Nintendo and Miyamoto and Iwata shove all the shit talking in his face from the last several years. 

[cool breeze]

For the record, I think Halo 3 is a much better game than Resistance.

I actually think they are about even for me.  I don't think either is really that great, but both are fun.  Resistance 2 does look awesome if only for how they are doing the multiplayer.

I agree with DCharlie that Resistance did take some time to pick up.  Personally, I hated the game when I first played it, but the game got gradually better as it went on.  I don't get why they started you out without recharging health, that was just stupid.  Resistance also featured two graphical elements that were just amazing and some of the few times that I was really amazed by graphics in a game as of late.  The falling snow and glass.  I don't know why, but the small elements in games that look great are awesome to me, like the metal in Ninja Gaiden 2.  The falling snow was jaw dropping and the glass looked amazing.  Overall I liked Resistance because it was a shooter on consoles that was had a good pace to the gameplay, but a lot of aspects were just stupid.  Headcrab enemies always suck.  I want my guns to feel powerful, that shotgun felt like a cork gun.