Author Topic: Maybe I'm blind to politics...but what the fuck, people LIKE the 2nd amendment?  (Read 15976 times)

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TakingBackSunday

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After the latest Supreme Court decision, 5-4 against DC's gun ban, the GAF thread is championing it.

Do people really hold the Constitution as the be-all Bible of our country?  It's a fucking flawed piece of writing...ESPECIALLY the second amendment, which is poorly written and doesn't even APPLY anymore.  Since when were we all fucking in state militias?

Fuck.
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Well if they aren't going to kill the child rapists through our jail system, it wouldnt hurt to have more guns out there. Maybe one of those child rapists will bump into a few bullets. That'd be a real shame.
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i like owning guns.  sorry.

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you never know, some negroes or injuns might get uppity or the king of england will march through your town

you want that
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The thread title should have read "LTTP"

Yes, America fucking loves their guns, yes it's fucking stupid, yes the constitution is a second bible to many people in America.

That's the troof.

MrAngryFace

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I've toyed with the idea of training and then getting a gun to keep stowed away in case 'shit goes down'

I'll ask the question: Why shouldn't we have the right to own fire arms while African Warlords get to? What kind of country would this be then? Pretty lame, thats what.
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« Last Edit: June 26, 2008, 12:13:00 PM by Ganhyun »
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I've toyed with the idea of training and then getting a gun to keep stowed away in case 'shit goes down'

I'll ask the question: Why shouldn't we have the right to own fire arms while African Warlords get to? What kind of country would this be then? Pretty lame, thats what.


b-b-b-but think of all the children. How can you be so heartless when millions of children due everyday from gun accidents.

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I'm going to laugh in the face of people who have lost friends and family to gun related accidents, especially those involving young children.

See, this is why you're lepered.
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It's not about liking guns, it's a constitutional matter. The constitution is flawed of course but it's the law of the nation. We can argue abouts the lack of need for militias all we want but it's a pretty clear statement on the right to own guns.

But on the flip side there's the question of whether everyone is able to own a gun - people with deep criminal records for instance. Eh
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MrAngryFace

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you guys are dumb, I dont know why this is being debated. I know its 'the cool thing' to slag on the constitution, but come on. GUNS!
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Mupepe

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the right to own guns and gun control are two totally different things.  of course not everyone should be able to own one and of course we have some tightening up we can do, but i really don't see why a responsible citizen should not be able to own a fuck nine millimeter or .22 rifle or fucking .45.  eat me.  i love my guns.

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the right to own guns and gun control are two totally different things.  of course not everyone should be able to own one and of course we have some tightening up we can do, but i really don't see why a responsible citizen should not be able to own a fuck nine millimeter or .22 rifle or fucking .45.  eat me.  i love my guns.

Problem: how do you truly determine who's responsible? Should a responsible citizen be allowed to own a gun if they live with irresponsible people?
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Mupepe

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the right to own guns and gun control are two totally different things.  of course not everyone should be able to own one and of course we have some tightening up we can do, but i really don't see why a responsible citizen should not be able to own a fuck nine millimeter or .22 rifle or fucking .45.  eat me.  i love my guns.

Problem: how do you truly determine who's responsible? Should a responsible citizen be allowed to own a gun if they live with irresponsible people?
innocent until proven guilty and that line of thinking.

listen, i think there should be more required training and I don't think we do enough as far as gun control, but I'll riot if you take my guns.  It's my duty right as an Texan American.

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the right to own guns and gun control are two totally different things.  of course not everyone should be able to own one and of course we have some tightening up we can do, but i really don't see why a responsible citizen should not be able to own a fuck nine millimeter or .22 rifle or fucking .45.  eat me.  i love my guns.

Problem: how do you truly determine who's responsible? Should a responsible citizen be allowed to own a gun if they live with irresponsible people?
innocent until proven guilty and that line of thinking.

listen, i think there should be more required training and I don't think we do enough as far as gun control, but I'll riot if you take my guns.  It's my duty right as an Texan American.
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Please note that it is also duty right as an Georgian American. You don't mess with our guns down here.
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FlameOfCallandor

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the right to own guns and gun control are two totally different things.  of course not everyone should be able to own one and of course we have some tightening up we can do, but i really don't see why a responsible citizen should not be able to own a fuck nine millimeter or .22 rifle or fucking .45.  eat me.  i love my guns.

Problem: how do you truly determine who's responsible? Should a responsible citizen be allowed to own a gun if they live with irresponsible people?

Clearly only a centralized federal government can determine who is responsible.

FlameOfCallandor

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the right to own guns and gun control are two totally different things.  of course not everyone should be able to own one and of course we have some tightening up we can do, but i really don't see why a responsible citizen should not be able to own a fuck nine millimeter or .22 rifle or fucking .45.  eat me.  i love my guns.

Problem: how do you truly determine who's responsible? Should a responsible citizen be allowed to own a gun if they live with irresponsible people?
innocent until proven guilty and that line of thinking.

listen, i think there should be more required training and I don't think we do enough as far as gun control, but I'll riot if you take my guns.  It's my duty right as an Texan American.


God bless you, mupepe.

duckman2000

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This is like a GAF thread, only with more gun nuts.

I vote yes, although it's always more fun to own guns in nations where others don't own guns.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2008, 12:44:47 PM by duckman2000 »

FlameOfCallandor

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GAF is full of pussy liberal fegs who never even saw a gun in real life.

duckman2000

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Personally, I'm sticking with paintball guns loaded with pepperballs. Seeing my kid point to her own head with a toy gun, I don't want to risk owning one of my own.

FlameOfCallandor

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Personally, I'm sticking with paintball guns loaded with pepperballs. Seeing my kid point to her own head with a toy gun, I don't want to risk owning one of my own.


I support your right not to own a  gun.

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In Canada, even if you shoot someone in the leg that breaks in to your house, its assault.

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Heck, I'm from NY and if they tried to take my guns I'd burn down DC. :punch  :gun
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Yes, there are more gun nuts on this board it seems. But honestly, a gun safety and training course should be required to buy guns I think. That gives us Sourtheners an advantage, what with all our hunting and stuff.

But I'd be covered anyway. I have Military training with several weapons. :)  :gun :gun :gun :gun

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FlameOfCallandor

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Mandatory military service for gun ownership says I. 

Why? Some of the craziest mother fuckers I know were in the military. In fact the only gun accident I know of was by an ex military guy being a dumb ass in an apartment parking lot..

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As much as I hate what Bush has done to the GOP and what its going to culminate in this fall, this ruling today almost makes my 2004 vote for him worth while.

Kerry's two Supreme Court justices would not have ruled the same way.

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Ganhyun

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Mandatory military service for gun ownership says I. 

Why? Some of the craziest mother fuckers I know were in the military. In fact the only gun accident I know of was by an ex military guy being a dumb ass in an apartment parking lot..

must've been a Marine. (Just kidding, although most of those guys I knew were crazy.)

Was an Army man myself.
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FlameOfCallandor

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As much as I hate what Bush has done to the GOP and what its going to culminate in this fall, this ruling today almost makes my 2004 vote for him worth while.

Kerry's two Supreme Court justices would not have ruled the same way.

I hear ya. The only reason I want Mccain to win is because of conservative judges.

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As much as I hate what Bush has done to the GOP and what its going to culminate in this fall, this ruling today almost makes my 2004 vote for him worth while.

Kerry's two Supreme Court justices would not have ruled the same way.

I hear ya. The only reason I want Mccain to win is because of conservative judges.

*vomits*
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FlameOfCallandor

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Mandatory military service for gun ownership says I. 

Why? Some of the craziest mother fuckers I know were in the military. In fact the only gun accident I know of was by an ex military guy being a dumb ass in an apartment parking lot..
The whole "well regulated" part


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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

It doesn't say that only "well regulated" people can own guns at all.


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As much as I hate what Bush has done to the GOP and what its going to culminate in this fall, this ruling today almost makes my 2004 vote for him worth while.

Kerry's two Supreme Court justices would not have ruled the same way.

I hear ya. The only reason I want Mccain to win is because of conservative judges.
Mainline Republican transformation almost complete.

Look for the keyword.

MrAngryFace

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Cars kill more people in the US than guns probably, lets all stop driving around.
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FlameOfCallandor

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It also happens to be the worst written sentence of all time.  You would think that the bible of the country wasn't written by a fourth grader.  Also when wriiten "militia" and "guys with guns" were pretty much the same thing.

What's your point?

MrAngryFace

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Also. How does wanting to own a gun, or believing we have a right to own one, make me a gun nut. Polarized Gaftardation? Seems so. Fuk off
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Cars kill more people in the US than guns probably, lets all stop driving around.
Cars are essential for transportation and commerce.

Guns shoot things.
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FlameOfCallandor

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Cars kill more people in the US than guns probably, lets all stop driving around.
Cars are essential for transportation and commerce.

Guns shoot things.

"Guns are essential for a free state."
-constitution

MrAngryFace

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No, there are other ways to get around. People are LAZY, cars are not essential. We COULD live without cars.
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MrAngryFace

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I may own a gun someday. I am a GUN NUT! OMG!
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FlameOfCallandor

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I may own a gun someday. I am a GUN NUT! OMG!

"Look at this little girl you killed because you like guns"

-Michael Moore

FlameOfCallandor

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I don't have a problem with people owning guns, I just think the "well regulated" part is pretty well ignored by champions of the second amendment.

Point out to me why you think people need to be well regulated to own a  gun.

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I don't have a problem with people owning guns, I just think the "well regulated" part is pretty well ignored by champions of the second amendment.

That's right. If anyone can think of any justified reason as to why any civilian should be allowed to possess automatic firearms, please enlighten me.
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I don't have a problem with people owning guns, I just think the "well regulated" part is pretty well ignored by champions of the second amendment.

That's right. If anyone can think of any justified reason as to why any civilian should be allowed to possess automatic firearms, please enlighten me.

Why shouldn't I?

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Crushed

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what don't you fucking people understand about the whole "guns primary purpose is to shoot and kill things"
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FlameOfCallandor

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what don't you fucking people understand about the whole "guns primary purpose is to protect"

Agreed

MrAngryFace

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Im totally fine with regulation of the type of guns and the required training and credentials to own a gun. I just dont like how crazy far left people say I shouldnt be allowed to own one period. What's the harm in having some civilians that know how to fight for their rights should something occur that endangers them.

Not everyone who owns a gun is a 'gun nut' except if you ask some crazy ass liberal that believes a world built on conflict can suddenly exist without any conflict at all. I am not an extreme person, and in most cases I do veer towards the left, but I find something troubling about the subtle pacification of america, be it through extreme surveiliance methods or removing our ability to protect our values should it come to that.

CRIME is not a RESULT of GUNS. KNIVES CAN BE USED TO KILL PEOPLE! BUT THEY CAN ALSO BE USED TO CUT BREAD! GUNS CAN BE USED TO KILL PEOPLE! BUT THEY CAN ALSO BE USED TO TURN OFF THE TV OR OPEN A CAN OF BEER.
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Flame believes guns primary purpose is to protect... him from black people.
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what don't you fucking people understand about the whole "guns primary purpose is to protect"

Agreed
yeah no, that's a possible side-effect of the whole "killing and or maiming a target with a piece of metal" thing
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CRIME is not a RESULT of GUNS. KNIVES CAN BE USED TO KILL PEOPLE! BUT THEY CAN ALSO BE USED TO CUT BREAD! GUNS CAN BE USED TO KILL PEOPLE! BUT THEY CAN ALSO BE USED TO TURN OFF THE TV OR OPEN A CAN OF BEER.

OH MY GOD HAHAHAHAHA.

I wish the Constitution had had better writers. Then there wouldn't be so much debate as to what each item means exactly. Problem nearly solved!
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MrAngryFace

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People act like theyre handing guns out from a bag labeled GUNS at the steps to the Supreme Court
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i thin the 2nd amendment is completely anachronistic in this day and age, but on the other hand, i have no problem with folks owning firearms. we probably need a more modern and forward-minded amendment to address public ownership of modern weaponry.
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Thomas J romanticized the 'idea' of revolution iirc, this is probably why it is what it is.
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MrAngryFace

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i thin the 2nd amendment is completely anachronistic in this day and age, but on the other hand, i have no problem with folks owning firearms. we probably need a more modern and forward-minded amendment to address public ownership of modern weaponry.
I say we start a militia.

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The Fake Shemp

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If we allow guns now, what about LASER GUNS in the future?  Criminals will be unstoppable!
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Ganhyun

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i thin the 2nd amendment is completely anachronistic in this day and age, but on the other hand, i have no problem with folks owning firearms. we probably need a more modern and forward-minded amendment to address public ownership of modern weaponry.
I say we start a militia.

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We should also regulate free speech cause thats pretty dangerous also.

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Im outta here. While I believe in what I say I just noticed FoC was cheering me on.

I need a shower.
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