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Howard Alan Treesong

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I wish to be in Star Control II
« on: June 27, 2008, 04:12:10 PM »
So, I installed The Ur-Quan Masters:

http://sc2.sourceforge.net/

When I start it up, I go to Earth and it's taken over by some ugly aliens. Then, I go into hyperspace and this alien race of crystals finds and kills me immediately.

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to be playing this. :(
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Howard Alan Treesong

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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2008, 04:25:02 PM »
the best deal I ever got on a videogame was a new copy of Panzer Dragoon Azel (Saga) for 100y at a game shop going out of business

wow just wow

anyways, how should I ... get into it? what are my goals? do I just go explore the galaxy and upgrade my ship?
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Howard Alan Treesong

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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 04:32:38 PM »
That is the only way to do it.  As I recall shit just sort of unfolds in the game in this sort of nautilus shell narrative.  I can't really compare it to anything else I've ever played.

yeah, it's weird because it's not like ... Elite or something else that's TOTALLY plotless. there's clearly a ton of plot and characterization and world-building.

I just can't...figure out how to get to it.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2008, 04:34:15 PM by Synthesizer Patel »
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2008, 04:39:57 PM »
Alien race of Crystal? uh oh, Sylandro Probes? Usually they don't start that early.

There are a couple of key tips when starting a new game. First, explore nearby systems and use the lander to mine what you can, just
don't lose too much crew or get blown to bits by stuff. Sell your organics to the Melnorme, who you can get tech from.

lots of good information here;

http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/Non-Spoiler_Hints

Really one of the best games ever. I played through UQM about a year and a half ago on my laptop, still held up very, very well.
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2008, 04:43:52 PM »
Alien race of Crystal? uh oh, Sylandro Probes? Usually they don't start that early.

There are a couple of key tips when starting a new game. First, explore nearby systems and use the lander to mine what you can, just
don't lose too much crew or get blown to bits by stuff. Sell your organics to the Melnorme, who you can get tech from.

lots of good information here;

http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/Non-Spoiler_Hints

Really one of the best games ever. I played through UQM about a year and a half ago on my laptop, still held up very, very well.

yeah, they shoot lightnining and I can't actually do anything and I die. this happens everytime I go into hyperspace from the first world. maybe this is a "feature" of UQM

EDIT: Oh, apparently I can go to the starbase and planets in the solar system. I have been high-tailing it out of there immediately because I don't want to get killed by whatever the probe bring back. But I guess that's just a narrative device and there's no actual time limit. :duh
« Last Edit: June 27, 2008, 04:45:44 PM by Synthesizer Patel »
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2008, 04:53:45 PM »
I assume you are going to ERF and dealing with all the things in the Sun's Solar System first. As a hint-you can pretty much maul those probes with the Spathi Eluder ship you get from Pluto, just use the BUTT torpedoes at long and medium ranges and turn your ship TOWARD them when the problems get too close, they run away when you face them.
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2008, 05:06:33 PM »
Check out the brain on Frag.  I can hardly remember any of this stuff.

to be fair I had to wiki to ensure that you did get the spathi ship from Pluto.

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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2008, 05:13:55 PM »
I assume you are going to ERF and dealing with all the things in the Sun's Solar System first.

No, absolutely not. :(
« Last Edit: June 27, 2008, 05:17:34 PM by Synthesizer Patel »
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2008, 06:40:36 PM »
I assume you are going to ERF and dealing with all the things in the Sun's Solar System first.

No, absolutely not. :(

Yeah you need to do that . Talk to the duder at the Stabase, check out the Moon, and Pluto. There's also some minerals to get you going money wise as well, just dont kill your lander in the process on Mercury.
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2008, 06:45:36 PM »
I assume you are going to ERF and dealing with all the things in the Sun's Solar System first.

No, absolutely not. :(

Yeah you need to do that . Talk to the duder at the Stabase, check out the Moon, and Pluto. There's also some minerals to get you going money wise as well, just dont kill your lander in the process on Mercury.

Everytime I started a game so far (four), I left the solar system immediately because I was afraid that the probe was going to come back and instant kill me like he said he would. :( I had no idea I could visit the Starbase or go to visit any of the planets in the Solar System. :( So the first thing I ALWAYS did was leave the system, go into hyperspace, and die. Once I made it to Sirius and sent out a lander and the lander exploded.

I suck at 1993-era gameflow. :'( But I will persevere.
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2008, 06:49:53 PM »
Best game evah. But I first fell in love with the 3DO version (which was actually the superior version), so when first playing Ur-Quan Masters a couple years ago when it came out, I flat out sssssucked when trying to control my ship with the arrow keys. I never checked if they added joystick support.

Anyway, yeah, what they said. Mine the nearby planets and systems first, maybe for a half hour/hour or so, sell those minerals and build up your ship. There's really a lot of room to upgrade it from the useless boat you start with to a pretty sleek, powerful ship once you max it out.
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2008, 07:09:37 PM »
Everytime I started a game so far (four), I left the solar system immediately because I was afraid that the probe was going to come back and instant kill me like he said he would. :( I had no idea I could visit the Starbase or go to visit any of the planets in the Solar System. :( So the first thing I ALWAYS did was leave the system, go into hyperspace, and die. Once I made it to Sirius and sent out a lander and the lander exploded.

I suck at 1993-era gameflow. :'( But I will persevere.

Just an FYI, I'm pretty sure ships can't chase you into a solar system. They will camp you at the exit point for when you come out (sometimes), but I think that in-system combat is usually due to forces already present in the system when you arrived.
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2008, 07:18:06 PM »
Everytime I started a game so far (four), I left the solar system immediately because I was afraid that the probe was going to come back and instant kill me like he said he would. :( I had no idea I could visit the Starbase or go to visit any of the planets in the Solar System. :( So the first thing I ALWAYS did was leave the system, go into hyperspace, and die. Once I made it to Sirius and sent out a lander and the lander exploded.

I suck at 1993-era gameflow. :'( But I will persevere.

Just an FYI, I'm pretty sure ships can't chase you into a solar system. They will camp you at the exit point for when you come out (sometimes), but I think that in-system combat is usually due to forces already present in the system when you arrived.

are ships visible in-system? or will I start scanning a planet and then a ship comes along and kills me?
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2008, 07:35:13 PM »
are ships visible in-system? or will I start scanning a planet and then a ship comes along and kills me?

Very visible, though if your flagship is slow they will overtake you and force a fight. Note that ships closing in on you aren't necessarily hostile as well, some just want to talk.
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2008, 07:53:47 PM »
Upon first hearing about Mass Effect i thought of Star Control, which made my dissapointment with that game much more deeply wounding.

I am having the same reaction to Infinite Line. Well, not that I want it to be Star Control. But that I want it to be an awesome, galaxy-spanning, generational-starship captaining adventure in the vasty vastness of space.

Then I realized that people always said Star Control was that game, so, why not play it!
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2008, 07:57:36 PM »
back in military school we'd melee the fuck out of each other w/ SC1
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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2008, 09:25:09 PM »
Best game evah. But I first fell in love with the 3DO version (which was actually the superior version), so when first playing Ur-Quan Masters a couple years ago when it came out, I flat out sssssucked when trying to control my ship with the arrow keys. I never checked if they added joystick support.

Anyway, yeah, what they said. Mine the nearby planets and systems first, maybe for a half hour/hour or so, sell those minerals and build up your ship. There's really a lot of room to upgrade it from the useless boat you start with to a pretty sleek, powerful ship once you max it out.

I thought the 3DO version never made it to retail! The one Patel mentions is, I believe, the executable of what would have become the retail version for the 3DO.

Anyway, great game. Amazing game. I played this with some buddies back in the day and we'd share strategies on how to pass certain parts of the game. The "Star Control-ese" we'd speak was frightening, borderlining on trekkie nerd fanaticism.

Apart from the Wiki's suggestions, I'd focus almost completely on building your mothership's speed, then turning rate (probably 2:1 or 3:1). You will meet with some badasses and you will not be able to defeat them, so the best thing is to be fast enough to outrun them and avoid conflict altogether until you are able to build up on weapons.

Avoid the Ilwrathi, Kohr-Ah and Ur-Quan like the plague at first. Only when your mothership is powerful enough do you want to engage these bastards.

Basically mine and upgrade first, then travel to other regions to follow the plot, and finally focus on battling the enemies (the ones that will never under any circumstances ally with you).

Don't even bother with gas giants (they are the large planets) - they never have anything to mine. There is one gas giant with an alien race - I can't remember the system but you can tell because normally there will be alien ships present in the solar system view.

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Re: I wish to be in Star Control II
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2008, 06:55:27 PM »
I thought the 3DO version never made it to retail! The one Patel mentions is, I believe, the executable of what would have become the retail version for the 3DO.

Nope, it most certainly was released.



That's good advice to skip the gas giants, not to mention those planets usually do the most damage to your lander. But sometimes there's a nice fat chunk of a rare mineral on them, so I end up scanning them all, anyway.
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