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Senator No is no more
« on: July 04, 2008, 02:15:53 PM »
Jesse Helms, the only American Senator to support Argentina during the Falklands war, is dead at the senseless age of 86.

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Re: Senator No is no more
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2008, 02:17:35 PM »
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Falklands War: an armed conflict between Britain and Argentina in 1982.


Why do I care.

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Re: Senator No is no more
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2008, 02:55:22 PM »
Nice try, but I'm not going to be your personal Wikipedia this holiday!

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Re: Senator No is no more
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2008, 03:02:07 PM »
the racist dude?
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Re: Senator No is no more
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2008, 03:08:32 PM »
Yeah it's all over the news here in NC. What a fucking cretin of a man, glad he died a demented wreck, he certainly earned it.

Anyway I think I speak for most of the city of Chapel Hill-who Helms once said "Why build a zoo when we can just put up a fence around Chapel Hill?" - that what we'll all be thinking about when we relieve ourselves of our beers today is this:

 :piss Jesse Helms' Grave  :piss2
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2008, 03:12:52 PM »
good fucking riddance, and what a great way to start my 4th festivities!


looking over his wiki, I noticed this:

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Soon after the Senate vote on the Confederate flag insignia, Sen. Jesse Helms (R.-N.C.) ran into Mosely-Braun in a Capitol elevator. Helms turned to his friend, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R.-Utah), and said, "Watch me make her cry. I'm going to make her cry. I'm going to sing 'Dixie' until she cries." He then proceeded to sing the song about "the good life" during slavery to Mosely-Braun (Gannett News Service, 9/2/93; Time, 8/16/93).[7]

:monkeypiss, indeed

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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2008, 03:38:40 PM »
seriously, fuck this man.

anti-gay, pro-life, pro-racist, and of course, conservative.  So predictable.  Of course, he's celebrated among politicians and teh  media cuz it's politically correct to be conservative
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Re: Senator No is no more
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2008, 05:19:21 PM »
the racist dude?

now now

don't discount all of his hatred
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2008, 06:39:16 PM »
I feel sorry for his families and they get my condolences

but wow, this guy was a piece of work to say the least. he made Falwell/Robertson/etc look like post WWII Mr. Rogers 
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2008, 07:04:33 PM »
His passing is kind of symbolic, because he stood for a kind of open bigotry that's not possible in American politics anymore, plus he was the face of the nationalist/sovereignist wing of the GOP.

I was about to say something about how you don't get the big, outsize personalities like him, Strom Thurmond, Ted Kennedy, Tip O'Neill, but that's probably wrong.  There's a lot of material for caricature in politics; it's just the good ol' boy and the Irish machine politician becoming anachronistic.

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Re: Senator No is no more
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 07:36:35 PM »
His passing is kind of symbolic, because he stood for a kind of open bigotry that's not possible in American politics anymore, plus he was the face of the nationalist/sovereignist wing of the GOP.

I was about to say something about how you don't get the big, outsize personalities like him, Strom Thurmond, Ted Kennedy, Tip O'Neill, but that's probably wrong.  There's a lot of material for caricature in politics; it's just the good ol' boy and the Irish machine politician becoming anachronistic.

Indeed, we can't discount the emerging, popular "Idiot from Texas by way of Kennebunkport".
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 09:00:48 PM »
He was a souljah in the war against sandniggers.

Godspeed, chosen one.  :usacry :bawl
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 12:13:57 AM »
Let us review his saintly accomplishments:

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The other, a 1973 amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act, prevented American money from going to international family planning organizations that, in his words, “provide or promote” abortion. He also introduced amendments to reduce or eliminate money for foreign aid, welfare programs and the arts.

Fuck you foreign people, rape babies, poor people and people with imagination!

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n the 1980s, he took on the National Endowment for the Arts for subsidizing art that he found offensive, chiefly that of the gay photographer Robert Mapplethorpe and of the artist Andres Serrano over his depiction of a crucifix submerged in urine. He later led an ill-fated attempt to take over CBS, exhorting conservatives to buy up stock in order to stop what he saw as a liberal bias in its news reporting.

Alright, tackling the BIG ISSUES.

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He fought bitterly against federal financing for AIDS research and treatment, saying the disease resulted from “unnatural” and “disgusting” homosexual behavior.
Finally, a progressive senator willing to tackle teh AIDS MYTH

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Trailing in a tough re-election fight in 1990 against a black opponent, Harvey B. Gantt, the former mayor of Charlotte, Mr. Helms unveiled a nakedly racial campaign advertisement in which a pair of hands belonging to a white job-seeker crumpled a rejection slip as an announcer explained that the job had been given to an unqualified member of a minority. Mr. Helms went on to victory.

Takin' it back!

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“Look carefully into the faces of the people participating,” he said in a 1968 editorial against anti-Vietnam War protests. “What you will see, for the most part, are dirty, unshaven, often crude young men and stringy-haired awkward young women who cannot attract attention any other way.”

That's actually pretty funny.

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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2008, 12:41:13 AM »
See this is the thing:

Politics and Fiscal matters, I am open to both conservative and liberal interpretations, and myself believe in policies that not only veer in both ways, but am openminded to changing my stance, because they are usually never black and white.  In other words, I can be either politically/fiscally liberal or conservative, depending on the issue and the situation and teh context.  In short, I believe in being a moderate person.

....ANd then there is social/morality issues.  In this, there is no question, and is usually black and white: social conservatism is not justifiable, and belongs to outdated tradition and outdated cultural beliefs.   

This man's stance on things like AIDS and gays and abortion [which is admittedly more grey than the other issues] is simply unjustifiable and is the same kind of mentality held by racists or religious bigots of past era [which is not to say they don't exist at the present].

Of course, in America, they are oft seen as more mainstream than they really are.  Coupled with the fact that this man made Reagan possible [aka the politically-safe-to-openly-admire president], this man is praised and his flaws not too criticized.
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Re: Senator No is no more
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2008, 12:54:08 AM »
fucking wow @ the article PD posted.  as if i needed MORE of a reason to be disgusted by McCain.
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