Author Topic: Painful admission time, EB: I enjoyed an anime flick yesterday (Read 3959 times)

Human Snorenado · « **on:** July 08, 2008, 06:23:19 PM »

Granted, it was one that I'd seen a billion years ago (original Ghost in the Shell) but still, I'm the "hates wacky jappy and anything anime related" guy. This hurts my rep.

Anywho what I wanted to ask was, are the GitS:SAC series worth watching? What about the sequel to the original movie? I understand they're set in different timelines/realities/whatever, but I still enjoyed the movie enough that afterwards I was like, "wow I wouldn't mind watching more of this crap". Also I'm trying to kill time in between gigs, next footage doesn't show up for 2 1/2 weeks and I can't very well play EO2 ALL THE TIME. Altho my copy of Toll the Hounds should be showing up early next week...

Vizzys · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:26:02 PM »

I remember the original gits movie

stand alone complex is great too

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:28:29 PM »

Could I get the opinion of someone who doesn't think FFTA2 is a game worth playing?

Vizzys · « **Reply #3 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:31:37 PM »

lol you like anime

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:32:01 PM »

Quote from: Viz on July 08, 2008, 06:31:37 PM

lol you like anime

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:32:17 PM »

I've heard nothing but good things about the recent GitS movie. Both series are well done, and imo better than the first movie its just not really my thing.

If you like action with intrigue, the GitS stuff is great.

So in short, Viz isn't wrong.

Powerslave · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:32:38 PM »

animefag!

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:34:45 PM »

I'm not a fan of the theatrical films, but both seasons of Stand Alone Complex are fantastic.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:35:10 PM »

Quote from: Powerslave on July 08, 2008, 06:32:38 PM

animefag!

But but but cool futuristic setting with philosophical questions of existence and shit! Also hot cyborg chick running around killing shit!

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:36:04 PM »

Question for distant and maf: when you say you didn't like the films but the series are great, are the series typically "anime-ish" for lack of a better term?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:37:07 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on July 08, 2008, 06:36:04 PM

Question for distant and maf: when you say you didn't like the films but the series are great, are the series typically "anime-ish" for lack of a better term?

There's a great deal of techno-babble and political-speak at times, but overall, they don't fall victim to "typical anime syndrome."

demi · « **Reply #11 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:39:46 PM »

I heard Elfin Leid was cool

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:40:31 PM »

Whenever me and my buddies would get really high, we'd put on the first episode ever of Ranma with english dub and the english subs and would die laughing at all the times the silly slanty-eyes would mess up the subs over an english language.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:47:41 PM »

GitS isnt typical at all, I wouldn't worry about a HA HA ANIMU situation

jiji · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:49:47 PM »

Quote from: demi on July 08, 2008, 06:39:46 PM

I heard Elfin Leid was cool

Quote from: distantmantra on July 08, 2008, 06:37:07 PM

"typical anime syndrome."

drew · « **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2008, 06:52:01 PM »

VALIS · « **Reply #16 on:** July 08, 2008, 07:01:18 PM »

edit: nm, misread the op

etiolate · « **Reply #17 on:** July 08, 2008, 07:08:44 PM »

People will recommend Stand Alone to you and you will hate them for it. It is full of the worst nonsensical pseudo-philo-theo-socio-bullshit that anime can muster.

Check out Kon's work. Paranoia Agent is a good place to start.

Powerslave · « **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2008, 07:10:12 PM »

I've seen like two animes in my life and enjoyed them both. I'm sure I'm a future animefag, I just need to unleash my chains.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #19 on:** July 08, 2008, 07:12:36 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on July 08, 2008, 07:08:44 PM

Check out Kon's work. Paranoia Agent is a good place to start.

Don't start with Paranoia Agent. I love it, but it can be nonsensical and requires knowledge of Japanese history and popular culture to follow along.

Watch Perfect Blue or Millenium Actress for your first exposure to Kon. They only require 2 hours of your time each, and are very stand alone in nature.

etiolate · « **Reply #20 on:** July 08, 2008, 07:17:10 PM »

PA also parodies Anime culture, which is a plus! I don't have a huge knowledge of Japanese history, but it was the first Kon work I watched.

TVC15 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 08, 2008, 07:30:21 PM »

smh, Triumph, smh. I'll be counting down the moments until you are watching something with sexy 2 year olds.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #22 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:37:10 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on July 08, 2008, 07:30:21 PM

smh, Triumph, smh. I'll be counting down the moments until you are watching something with sexy 2 year olds.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #23 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:37:13 PM »

SAC is better than the main series.

SAC first season > second season > Solid state society > Gits:2 > gits: 1

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #24 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:38:11 PM »

[youtube=425,350]ehY7rT_sE1A[/youtube]

only a matter of time before triumph reaches this level

TVC15 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:42:42 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on July 08, 2008, 08:37:13 PM

SAC is better than the main series.

SAC first season > second season > Solid state society > Gits:2 > gits: 1

If you think GITS2 is better than the first one, you *are* distinguished mentally-challenged.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #26 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:44:23 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on July 08, 2008, 08:42:42 PM

Quote from: Father_Mike on July 08, 2008, 08:37:13 PM
SAC is better than the main series.

SAC first season > second season > Solid state society > Gits:2 > gits: 1

If you think GITS2 is better than the first one, you *are* distinguished mentally-challenged.

It is better. You're the distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #27 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:47:05 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on July 08, 2008, 08:42:42 PM

Quote from: Father_Mike on July 08, 2008, 08:37:13 PM
SAC is better than the main series.

SAC first season > second season > Solid state society > Gits:2 > gits: 1

If you think GITS2 is better than the first one, you *are* distinguished mentally-challenged.

I thought we'd decided Arvie was a lil' bit slow long ago? Or at the very least special.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #28 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:48:43 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on July 08, 2008, 08:47:05 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on July 08, 2008, 08:42:42 PM
Quote from: Father_Mike on July 08, 2008, 08:37:13 PM
SAC is better than the main series.

SAC first season > second season > Solid state society > Gits:2 > gits: 1

If you think GITS2 is better than the first one, you *are* distinguished mentally-challenged.

I thought we'd decided Arvie was a lil' bit slow long ago? Or at the very least special.

And it was Anime that made me this way. Get out while you can.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #29 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:50:42 PM »

What the hell. Just because the Braves are awful doesn't mean you have to resort to this. $:-\$

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #30 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:53:53 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on July 08, 2008, 08:48:43 PM

Quote from: The Card Cheat on July 08, 2008, 08:47:05 PM
Quote from: TVC 15 on July 08, 2008, 08:42:42 PM
Quote from: Father_Mike on July 08, 2008, 08:37:13 PM
SAC is better than the main series.

SAC first season > second season > Solid state society > Gits:2 > gits: 1

If you think GITS2 is better than the first one, you *are* distinguished mentally-challenged.

I thought we'd decided Arvie was a lil' bit slow long ago? Or at the very least special.

And it was Anime that made me this way. Get out while you can.

It's ok as long as I don't watch the loli and/or tentacle stuff, rite?

Also, Cajole: stfu. The Mets will implode once again, never fear. Go Phillies/Marlins!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #31 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:55:06 PM »

Gits is a stepping stone to Bible Black.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #32 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:56:07 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on July 08, 2008, 08:55:06 PM

Gits is a stepping stone to Bible Black.

wiki's bible black...

OH MY

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #33 on:** July 08, 2008, 09:15:53 PM »

Millenium Actress is my favorite anime movie of the ever.

Beezy · « **Reply #34 on:** July 08, 2008, 10:24:38 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on July 08, 2008, 08:56:07 PM

Quote from: Father_Mike on July 08, 2008, 08:55:06 PM
Gits is a stepping stone to Bible Black.

wiki's bible black...

OH MY

FM has exposed Triumph to hentai...

Quote from: The Card Cheat on July 08, 2008, 06:35:10 PM

Also hot cyborg chick running around killing shit!

...but he just might like it!

tiesto · « **Reply #35 on:** July 08, 2008, 10:53:57 PM »

Serial Experiments Lain seems a bit up your alley, if you're into the slightly cyberpunk settings with lots of philosophical questions of existence. It's a bit of a mindfuck and even after watching the whole thing twice, I'm still not too sure what it was about. 13 episodes, and could be purchased for pretty cheap since they re-released it a few years ago. Not really that big into anime, apart from game art, but this is one of the few series that compelled me to watch the whole thing.

And yeah, the girl looks like 12 years old, but there's no loli/pedo shit in it so don't fear.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36 on:** July 08, 2008, 10:55:58 PM »

It totally succumbs to "typical anime syndrome," but Gurren Lagann makes me so incredibly happy.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #37 on:** July 08, 2008, 10:59:30 PM »

ah its a fun romp, there's worse anime out there *coughluckystarcough*

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #38 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:03:45 PM »

Quote from: Spencer on July 08, 2008, 11:02:14 PM

Quote from: demi on July 08, 2008, 06:39:46 PM
I heard Elfin Leid was cool

Demi recommended me this, and it's not like other anime at all! It's excellent!

Run the fuck away from Elfen Lied.

Himu · « **Reply #39 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:20:28 PM »

Stand Alone Complex kicks the movies ass in like 10000 ways. It is classic.

Himu · « **Reply #40 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:22:37 PM »

GitS movies and tv series are entirely different.

The movies emphasize philosophy as a major theme. SAC places emphasis on politics, intrigue, and self contained stories. It's like a cop drama, but in anime form.

This is why a lot of SAC fans tend to hate the movies but love SAC 1 and 2. The movies come off as preachy and sometimes are entirely boring. SAC has everything going for it.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #41 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:26:22 PM »

The Stand Alone episode "Runaway Evidence – TESTATION" is probably my favorite anime episode ever.

Himu · « **Reply #42 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:28:06 PM »

The Stand Alone episodes are so amazing.

I'd actually prefer if the series was nothing BUT Stand Alone episodes.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #43 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:28:47 PM »

I agree with Himu, though there is plenty of philosophy in sac, actually everything from the movies is in there it's just not so in your face.

Himu · « **Reply #44 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:30:49 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on July 08, 2008, 11:28:47 PM

I agree with Himu, though there is plenty of philosophy in sac, actually everything from the movies is in there it's just not so in your face.

Yeah, it's much more blatant. If the GITS movies were more like the Stand Alone episodes in terms of how they handle philosophy.. omg

Trent Dole · « **Reply #45 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:35:34 PM »

Lucky Star is the shittiest animu ever, the second GitS movie is 'meh' at best, and I echo any pro-Kon rhetoric several times over,

Satoshi-san-hime-baka-kun-sugoi-desu

Himu · « **Reply #46 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:38:03 PM »

Satoshi Kon

Even Tokyo Godfathers was good.

VALIS · « **Reply #47 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:57:34 PM »

I wrote this before until I realized you weren't asking for recommendations in general and then removed it. But since the thread has turned into that anyway, might as well repost it.

Coming from someone else who generally hates anime and japafags...

Cromartie High School if you like Adult Swim type humor ala Sealab, Aqua Teen HF. Truly inspired.
The Ping Pong Club for South Park type humor (before South Park was topical)
Serial Experiments Lain for mystical shit

Most of the rest I've seen is poop. Actually, an episode I've seen of Gantz looked intriguing, but I never bothered buying it. Maybe some day. All the usual "anime recommendations for people who don't like anime" you'd see on GAF and similar places are 95% of the time things only a full blown anime dork and/or 18-year old would enjoy, like Berserk and Samurai Champloo and Rurouni Kenshin that kind of juvenile angsty sword garbage. They're just trying to ensnare you into their hive. Don't fall into their trap, man. Stay strong.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #48 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:05:13 AM »

I liked Berserk and Champloo

Himu · « **Reply #49 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:20:04 AM »

Quote from: VALIS on July 08, 2008, 11:57:34 PM

I wrote this before until I realized you weren't asking for recommendations in general and then removed it. But since the thread has turned into that anyway, might as well repost it.

Coming from someone else who generally hates anime and japafags...

Cromartie High School if you like Adult Swim type humor ala Sealab, Aqua Teen HF. Truly inspired.
The Ping Pong Club for South Park type humor (before South Park was topical)
Serial Experiments Lain for mystical shit

Most of the rest I've seen is poop. Actually, an episode I've seen of Gantz looked intriguing, but I never bothered buying it. Maybe some day. All the usual "anime recommendations for people who don't like anime" you'd see on GAF and similar places are 95% of the time things only a full blown anime dork and/or 18-year old would enjoy, like Berserk and Samurai Champloo and Rurouni Kenshin that kind of juvenile angsty sword garbage. They're just trying to ensnare you into their hive. Don't fall into their trap, man. Stay strong.

How the shit can you hate on Berserk and Kenshin

Powerslave · « **Reply #50 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:23:23 AM »

sup himu!

Himu · « **Reply #51 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:28:04 AM »

VALIS · « **Reply #52 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:32:37 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on July 09, 2008, 12:20:04 AM

How the shit can you hate on Berserk and Kenshin

They're bad recommendations for people who don't generally like anime. While those series aren't filled with stereotypical submissive blue haired lolis with saucer eyes, they're both really angsty and pouty. It's still stuff aimed at teenage boys, nowhere as deep or well written as people tell you they are. At least in my experience.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #53 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:44:45 AM »

kino's journey Kino's Journey KINO'S JOURNEY

You should watch it. It's good.

Himu · « **Reply #54 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:51:39 AM »

Quote from: VALIS on July 09, 2008, 12:32:37 AM

Quote from: Himuro on July 09, 2008, 12:20:04 AM
How the shit can you hate on Berserk and Kenshin

They're bad recommendations for people who don't generally like anime. While those series aren't filled with stereotypical submissive blue haired lolis with saucer eyes, they're both really angsty and pouty. It's still stuff aimed at teenage boys, nowhere as deep or well written as people tell you they are. At least in my experience.

Most people with taste in anime don't suggest the tv series.

They suggest this:

[youtube=425,350]T6QJLdeIcL4[/youtube]

Mupepe can vouch for me. He's not a big anime fan, and I let him borrow it when I got it 8 years ago. He loved it. It's the anime I suggest to non-anime fans all the time.

And yeah, Kino's Journey is a pretty unique short series.

Himu · « **Reply #55 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:53:41 AM »

Avoid Kenshin tv series at all costs. I only like it for nostalgia. And Kyoto.

Narag · « **Reply #56 on:** July 09, 2008, 01:09:09 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on July 09, 2008, 12:53:41 AM

Avoid Kenshin tv series at all costs. I only like it for nostalgia. And Kyoto.

Its worth a watch until the end of the Kyoto arc. Fucking loved Seijuro finally throwing down to protect Yahiko.

Himu · « **Reply #57 on:** July 09, 2008, 01:10:15 AM »

Read the manga instead.

Narag · « **Reply #58 on:** July 09, 2008, 01:17:49 AM »

And miss out on Shuichi Ikeda? Never.

Himu · « **Reply #59 on:** July 09, 2008, 01:20:28 AM »

the manga has an actual ending.

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Author Topic: Painful admission time, EB: I enjoyed an anime flick yesterday (Read 3959 times)