Author Topic: Don't bother with this months EGM for Killzone news (Read 4357 times)

mojovonio · « **on:** July 10, 2008, 01:24:08 PM »

I've never read such a useless preview.

Basically this is what Shane mentions,

The Helghast are in the game
You play one guy
There are nice graphics in the game.
There is a cover mechanic

No talking about a level playthrough, no table of weapons in the game, nothing new.

Crushed · « **Reply #1 on:** July 10, 2008, 01:25:12 PM »

who would want to buy a magazine to hear what shane has to say about killzone

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #2 on:** July 10, 2008, 01:29:56 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on July 10, 2008, 01:28:57 PM

Who would want to buy EGM?

I've got a free subscription until 2012.

abrader · « **Reply #3 on:** July 10, 2008, 01:34:23 PM »

Ill just buy Killzone 2 and be the judge of it.

Narag · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2008, 01:51:39 PM »

Quote from: mojovonio on July 10, 2008, 01:48:57 PM

Quote from: Borys on July 10, 2008, 01:40:56 PM
You're getting old, mojo. Don't have the reflexes and sharp sense you used to have :'(

I didn't get my speed fix today. A police dog found it on me and took it away.

They use cocker spaniels in the police force right?

Goldendoodles in the more ritzy neighborhoods too.

JustinP · « **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2008, 01:57:11 PM »

lol EGM

and lol @ shane covering an FPS

Narag · « **Reply #6 on:** July 10, 2008, 01:58:21 PM »

He's a PC gamer too. Embrace him, Borys.

JustinP · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:00:21 PM »

Quote from: Narag on July 10, 2008, 01:58:21 PM

He's a PC gamer too. Embrace him, Borys.

borys would only accept me if i had crysis jammed up my asshole. farcry/crysis just bore me.

Narag · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:01:13 PM »

No man's asshole will ever be in a high enough resolution for Borys regardless. :'(

patrickula · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:18:48 PM »

I enjoy my free subscription

Though I enjoyed my free subscription to GFW even more :'(

Tieno · « **Reply #10 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:32:47 PM »

I really don't understand why they'd send Shane to do a coverstory on an FPS. Was this part of the deal? CONSPIRACY.

y2kev · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:33:29 PM »

Quote from: Tieno on July 10, 2008, 02:32:47 PM

I really don't understand why they'd send Shane to do a coverstory on an FPS. Was this part of the deal? CONSPIRACY.

because ZD has like two people working there now

Tieno · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:35:18 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on July 10, 2008, 02:33:29 PM

Quote from: Tieno on July 10, 2008, 02:32:47 PM
I really don't understand why they'd send Shane to do a coverstory on an FPS. Was this part of the deal? CONSPIRACY.
because ZD has like two people working there now

Yeah, I'm really counting down the days till a company picks up Shawn Elliott, probably doesn't want to be a community manager (lol).

cool breeze · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:43:34 PM »

I am curious to see how little they probably get paid at 1up/EGM. Things are getting shutdown all the time. I think there are like 3 workers and everyone else is an intern. This is all Che's fault.

y2kev · « **Reply #14 on:** July 10, 2008, 03:15:24 PM »

They recently rehired two fired staffers, so they're not done for JUST yet. But soon! EGM's days are sooo numbered.

cool breeze · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2008, 03:18:15 PM »

Mark needs to come back. That or there needs to be an 8-4 podcast. He went out like a champ by tricking everyone into thinking he was going to work on that Halo game. Shane even said he heard about it

At least John still visits 1upyours often.

patrickula · « **Reply #16 on:** July 10, 2008, 03:38:52 PM »

I actually did the survey they're pimping in the magazine (I could win an EGM jacket worn by Shane

).
There were questions about how much I'd be willing to pay if there were a thicker, higher quality EGM, so maybe they're seriously looking into becoming a more serious publication. I'd be curious to see it, though I'm not sure if it would work out.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #17 on:** July 10, 2008, 03:40:58 PM »

other b-list games egm covers insufficiently: damnation, the conduit, soma bringer, super mario sluggers

why are we having this dicussion, nobody cares about killzone 2

Crushed · « **Reply #18 on:** July 10, 2008, 03:54:46 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on July 10, 2008, 03:40:58 PM

other b-list games egm covers insufficiently: damnation, the conduit, soma bringer, super mario sluggers

i thought soma bringer was good

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #19 on:** July 10, 2008, 04:00:34 PM »

Luke Smith was only payed $14,000 a year. He left on bad terms, also.

Plus they fired the hottest chick they ever had working there, that one CM Jenn Frank.

I would stick it in her plump body.

Tieno · « **Reply #20 on:** July 10, 2008, 04:08:49 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on July 10, 2008, 04:00:34 PM

Luke Smith was only payed $14,000 a year. He left on bad terms, also.

Probably got a huge pay raise and benefits at Bungie. On the latest podcast their tech maintenance guy was making Luke wet with a custom build and rigged podcast room he'd like to do in the new building/annex or something.
What were the bad terms?
From comments of other people I know 1up/ZD pays the worst (compared to other 'big' websites)

Tieno · « **Reply #21 on:** July 10, 2008, 04:48:35 PM »

Seems like Sean (from the GFW group) went to Blizzard.

y2kev · « **Reply #22 on:** July 10, 2008, 05:12:10 PM »

Waaaaaait.

No way. There is no humanly way Luke made 14k a year at ZD. Even IF he had two roommates, that's not enough to live off of, especially not in SF. Where did you hear that?

Grecco · « **Reply #23 on:** July 10, 2008, 05:35:25 PM »

14K jesus no wonder everybody leaves that place

cool breeze · « **Reply #24 on:** July 10, 2008, 05:44:10 PM »

I don't even know what the source is that he only got 14k and left on bad terms. I could understand if they were mad about all the shilling he did for Bungie during the years he worked there only to actually work for them later on, but I don't think he was doing that for that reason.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he did have like 4 roommates or something. Everyone at 1up seems to live together. It is really weird.

Rman · « **Reply #25 on:** July 10, 2008, 05:53:10 PM »

Quote from: Grecco on July 10, 2008, 05:35:25 PM

14K jesus no wonder everybody leaves that place

BS. I'm guessing around 40K. Ziff has really become ''finishing school'' to CM positions.

Che->Turn 10
Luke Smith->Bungie
Bryan Inthihar->Insomniac

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #26 on:** July 10, 2008, 06:08:06 PM »

I know Luke personally. Take it or leave it guys.

http://infinitelives.net/

Thats Jenn Franks blog.

That's her 100 pounds lighter aka not as sexy

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #27 on:** July 10, 2008, 06:16:44 PM »

Well whats the minimum salary in California? Whatever it was, it was that. In NH it's 14k. All I remember him saying was it was the lowest.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 10, 2008, 09:41:25 PM »

Here's a real Killzone 2 preview

Killzone 2

Tabasco · « **Reply #29 on:** July 10, 2008, 09:52:11 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on July 10, 2008, 06:16:44 PM

Well whats the minimum salary in California? Whatever it was, it was that. In NH it's 14k. All I remember him saying was it was the lowest.

He made 45k, got an insulting counter from Ziff after Bungie approached him about a job, and then he quit. Maybe Davison knew the ship was sinking and didn't try to keep him . . .

kev why you bashing 1up? I thought your career path was forum personality -> GAF mod -> ZD writer

y2kev · « **Reply #30 on:** July 10, 2008, 10:06:16 PM »

bashing ZD? I'm not bashing ZD.

you'd have to be delusional to think that me predicting doom for egm is bashing ZD.

I love 1up's media services.

Rman · « **Reply #31 on:** July 10, 2008, 11:05:59 PM »

I do agree with you, Kev, EGM will probably be dead soon, give or take a year or so is my prediction. 1up.com will be the ZD game group's focus, along with excellent podcasts and video content.

Grecco · « **Reply #32 on:** July 10, 2008, 11:24:32 PM »

EGM dieing would be a shame

y2kev · « **Reply #33 on:** July 10, 2008, 11:41:25 PM »

Quote from: Grecco on July 10, 2008, 11:24:32 PM

EGM dieing would be a shame

it has been shrinking for a while...this month they (largely) did away with 3 person reviews...which, imo, is a good thing (longer one person reviews), but you can't help but think that this is a personnel driven decision (they have defended the "review crew" tooth and nail before). they now "cover" PC games for the ad revenue, and their index of advertisers is down to like five or six companies as of the latest issue. and one of those is sony, who will be out of business soon, and ms, who is leaving the console market in four to six months.

i'd say print is dead, but GI seems to be growing (for obvious reasons). GI has a HUGE exclusive every month.

. ziff was late to the online party too, but i still vastly prefer what they DO with the web than what GS or IGN do.

Grecco · « **Reply #34 on:** July 10, 2008, 11:45:13 PM »

I keep hearing "pc ads" but look at older EGMs from this year or last year. They already had PC ads.

Rman · « **Reply #35 on:** July 10, 2008, 11:50:59 PM »

Yes. But they hope to get more now that they are adding more PC coverage in the mag.

JustinP · « **Reply #36 on:** July 10, 2008, 11:56:20 PM »

PC gamers are the last people who want a magazine. gaming magazines are obsolete.

Grecco · « **Reply #37 on:** July 11, 2008, 12:14:43 AM »

Quote from: JustinP on July 10, 2008, 11:56:20 PM

PC gamers are the last people who want a magazine. gaming magazines are obsolete.

Tell that to Gameinformer or Game Pro both are still doing well

cool breeze · « **Reply #38 on:** July 11, 2008, 12:23:40 AM »

Quote from: y2kev on July 10, 2008, 11:41:25 PM

it has been shrinking for a while...this month they (largely) did away with 3 person reviews...which, imo, is a good thing (longer one person reviews), but you can't help but think that this is a personnel driven decision (they have defended the "review crew" tooth and nail before). they now "cover" PC games for the ad revenue, and their index of advertisers is down to like five or six companies as of the latest issue. and one of those is sony, who will be out of business soon, and ms, who is leaving the console market in four to six months.

i'd say print is dead, but GI seems to be growing (for obvious reasons). GI has a HUGE exclusive every month.

. ziff was late to the online party too, but i still vastly prefer what they DO with the web than what GS or IGN do.

EGM is one of the two magazines I get in the mail (I am thinking of getting EDGE), but I still think it is going to go under soon. And despite thinking 1up has the best podcasts/original video content of all the major gaming websites, their actual news coverage, videos and pictures are pretty bad. Gamevideos is horrendously slow, and with Gametrailers around there is no real reason to visit it outside of exclusive content. Just compare the new Mirror's Edge trailer on Gamevideos to Gametrailers-

Gamevideos: 13,177
Gametrailers: 116,063

That is almost as bad as the gap between next gen systems and the Wii in Japan.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #39 on:** July 11, 2008, 07:12:51 AM »

"Perfectly effective," sounds like another AAA title to me

y2kev · « **Reply #40 on:** July 11, 2008, 11:14:03 AM »

Quote from: swaggaz on July 11, 2008, 12:23:40 AM

Quote from: y2kev on July 10, 2008, 11:41:25 PM
it has been shrinking for a while...this month they (largely) did away with 3 person reviews...which, imo, is a good thing (longer one person reviews), but you can't help but think that this is a personnel driven decision (they have defended the "review crew" tooth and nail before). they now "cover" PC games for the ad revenue, and their index of advertisers is down to like five or six companies as of the latest issue. and one of those is sony, who will be out of business soon, and ms, who is leaving the console market in four to six months.

i'd say print is dead, but GI seems to be growing (for obvious reasons). GI has a HUGE exclusive every month.

. ziff was late to the online party too, but i still vastly prefer what they DO with the web than what GS or IGN do.

EGM is one of the two magazines I get in the mail (I am thinking of getting EDGE), but I still think it is going to go under soon. And despite thinking 1up has the best podcasts/original video content of all the major gaming websites, their actual news coverage, videos and pictures are pretty bad. Gamevideos is horrendously slow, and with Gametrailers around there is no real reason to visit it outside of exclusive content. Just compare the new Mirror's Edge trailer on Gamevideos to Gametrailers-

Gamevideos: 13,177
Gametrailers: 116,063

That is almost as bad as the gap between next gen systems and the Wii in Japan.

Whoa, I actually didn't know it was that bad.

I think GT is okay...I don't really agree with some of their writers (voicers?) sometimes. I'm not even really sure why GameVideos was spun off.

cool breeze · « **Reply #41 on:** July 11, 2008, 01:24:52 PM »

Yeah, I don't agree with the reviews or opinions at Gametrailers at all, but I still like the video content they provide. Plus they are incredibly fast for me compared to gamevideos or other sites. 2+ megs a second vs 50-100 kb.

cool breeze · « **Reply #42 on:** July 11, 2008, 02:26:30 PM »

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/19889

Killzone 2 on the 1upshow. I don't know if there is new footage or info because this shit is downloading really slow, but there it is.

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Author Topic: Don't bother with this months EGM for Killzone news (Read 4357 times)

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