Batman is a democrat, Superman a Republican and Captain America a...

[Beardo]

http://redeye.chicagotribune.com/red-superhero-politics,0,1753398.photogallery

Bruce Wayne is pro-gun-control and against the death penalty, which places him among left-wing Democrats.

Clark Kent is a Ronald Reagan Republican for sure (See Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns if you don't believe me).

Some would say he's a John McCain Republican, but after fighting against the Superhero Registration Act in Marvel's Civil War, I'd say he's more a Libertarian.

Pro-NRA, Pro-Death Penalty, this guy would go hunting with Dick Cheney and shoot HIM in the face! Ultra-Right-wing Republican for sure.

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"The Punisher as a pretty independent libertarian. He's severely distrustful of the government to the point of refusing a chance to hunt Bin Laden on the government's dime. And as violent as he is, his experiences in Vietnam have made him very anti-war as war is a tool of violent government oppression."

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[Mupepe]

But liberals don't like vigilantes, do they?

[Beardo]

But liberals don't like vigilantes, do they?

Thats what I was thinking. This article wasn't very well written.

[TakingBackSunday]

The flaw in this thinking is that Superman didn't really like Reagan in Dark Knight Returns.  He had to play all nice with him in order to not be ostracized and convicted like the rest of the super heroes of the time.  He did it simply because he thought he could still be saving lives this way, even if he was a pet of the President.  So really, he's more like...I don't know, Jack Bauer?

Christ why do I know these things

[Eric P]

supes is also handled that way in New Frontier

[Tauntaun]

The Punisher pays for his guns in GOLD!

[Crushed]

I don't think any of the major super heroes would fit any party.

[BobbyRobby]

'Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is right.  This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences.  When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world -- "NO YOU MOVE."'

  Cap

  RIP

[FlameOfCallandor]

BobbyRobby


Also I think Batman is a libertarian. He's the embodiment of he success of capitalism and a vigilante. He fights the corruption.

[TVC15]

I don't think Batman can be easily categorized.  Being a vigilante implies some measure of libertarianism.  To back this up, he is also filthy rich and uses his wealth to compete in the superhero game, a league where he is otherwise unqualified to be.  But he's delusional enough that I bet he actually believes he's doing good, and thus he probably votes Democrat.

FoC:  He THINKS he's fighting corruption, but he's part of it.  Holding such delusional beliefs, it's no wonder his politics are muddled.

[BobbyRobby]

FoC, you should read up on Steve Ditko, the creator of Spider-Man and Dr. Strange.  He became a hardcore objectivist, and actually broke off ties with Marvel & DC partially due to this.  Here's an excerpt from a review of book that came out this week about him,

Ditko followed up Spider-Man with the psychedelic Dr. Strange and other books, but also became immersed in novelist Ayn Rand's objectivist philosophy. This caused problems. Ditko took Rand's call for fierce independence to an extreme, insisting on creating characters who spouted objectivist dogma, which led to fallings-out with both Marvel and DC Comics, the biggest companies in the medium. In recent years, he could have made money selling his original art, but some Rand-ian principle holds him back from doing so. Bell also points out that Marvel never paid Ditko very much, compared with all the profits he generated for the company, and that Lee early on claimed sole credit for writing Spider-Man.

while I wouldn't call myself an objectivist at all, I have a lot of common ground with the philosophy.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Is it a non fiction about his work with Marvel?

[FlameOfCallandor]

FoC:  He THINKS he's fighting corruption, but he's part of it.  Holding such delusional beliefs, it's no wonder his politics are muddled.

How is batman part of the corruption?

[BobbyRobby]

Is it a non fiction about his work with Marvel?

It deals with his place in comic history at both DC and Marvel. 

sorry for not posting a link to the review,

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20211781,00.html

[TVC15]

FoC:  He THINKS he's fighting corruption, but he's part of it.  Holding such delusional beliefs, it's no wonder his politics are muddled.

How is batman part of the corruption?

You can't have people running around punishing people for subjective reasons.  Batman is bad for the same reasons that Dexter and Travis Bickle are.

[Powerslave]

God you dumbass americans and your shitty 'democrats/republicans/libertarians' political labels.

[FlameOfCallandor]

FoC:  He THINKS he's fighting corruption, but he's part of it.  Holding such delusional beliefs, it's no wonder his politics are muddled.

How is batman part of the corruption?

You can't have people running around punishing people for subjective reasons.  Batman is bad for the same reasons that Dexter and Travis Bickle are.

Corruption |kəˈrəp sh ən|
noun
  dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery : the journalist who wants to expose corruption in high places.
• the action of making someone or something morally depraved or the state of being so : the word “addict” conjures up evil and corruption.
• archaic decay; putrefaction : the potato turned black and rotten with corruption.



I dont see how this fits batman. Yes hes a vigilante but hes not corrupt.

[TVC15]

Oh boy, pulling out the dictionary definitions!  Anyway, I'd say Batman would fit into the part about fraudulent conduct.

[Reb]

God you dumbass americans and your shitty 'democrats/republicans/libertarians' political labels.

Holland is all, you're either left or right wing. ONLY 2 LABELS!

[FlameOfCallandor]

Oh boy, pulling out the dictionary definitions!  Anyway, I'd say Batman would fit into the part about fraudulent conduct.

But hes not in any kind of official power given to him by the people. All of his power is given to him by himself. It's not like he is selling pardons to the joker or anything. Saying that Batman is corrupt is a big stretch.

[Flannel Boy]

FoC:  He THINKS he's fighting corruption, but he's part of it.  Holding such delusional beliefs, it's no wonder his politics are muddled.

How is batman part of the corruption?

You can't have people running around punishing people for subjective reasons.  Batman is bad for the same reasons that Dexter and Travis Bickle are.

Has Batman ever murdered anyone?

[Powerslave]

Holland doesn't bring up the 'left/right' tags as much.

[FlameOfCallandor]

Holland doesn't bring up the 'left/right' tags as much.

Cause everyone in europe is a leftist socialist homo.

[Powerslave]

Holland doesn't bring up the 'left/right' tags as much.

Cause everyone in europe is a leftist socialist homo.

Not true, except the homo part.

[Mupepe]

Oh boy, pulling out the dictionary definitions!  Anyway, I'd say Batman would fit into the part about fraudulent conduct.

But hes not in any kind of official power given to him by the people. All of his power is given to him by himself. It's not like he is selling pardons to the joker or anything. Saying that Batman is corrupt is a big stretch.

criminals are not put into any official power by people but they contribute to corruption. 

[TVC15]

Oh boy, pulling out the dictionary definitions!  Anyway, I'd say Batman would fit into the part about fraudulent conduct.

But hes not in any kind of official power given to him by the people. All of his power is given to him by himself. It's not like he is selling pardons to the joker or anything. Saying that Batman is corrupt is a big stretch.

I'm still trying to parse that first sentence.  It's been infected by some sort of corruption, possibly the parasites of the mind.  He's corrupt because he inflicts his own reading of the law on others.  This is why vigilantism is frowned upon.

[FlameOfCallandor]

So now Batman is a criminal?

[FlameOfCallandor]

He's corrupt because he inflicts his own reading of the law on others.  This is why vigilantism is frowned upon.

That's not what corruption is.

[TVC15]

So now Batman is a criminal?

Uh, yeah.  While I don't think vigiantism is a crime by itself (the crime is doing illegal things in the course of one's work), Batman's definitely done illegal things.

[TVC15]

He's corrupt because he inflicts his own reading of the law on others.  This is why vigilantism is frowned upon.

That's not what corruption is.

It's impossible to have a conversation with you.  Batman's interpretation of the law is fraudulent, even if only because he is punishing people without official permission.

[FlameOfCallandor]

So now Batman is a criminal?

Uh, yeah.  While I don't think vigiantism is a crime by itself (the crime is doing illegal things in the course of one's work), Batman's definitely done illegal things.

Then all super heroes are criminals. And this discussion is pointless.

[FlameOfCallandor]

He's corrupt because he inflicts his own reading of the law on others.  This is why vigilantism is frowned upon.

That's not what corruption is.

It's impossible to have a conversation with you.  Batman's interpretation of the law is fraudulent, even if only because he is punishing people without official permission.

He doesn't punish them. He hands them over to justice.

[TVC15]

So now Batman is a criminal?

Uh, yeah.  While I don't think vigiantism is a crime by itself (the crime is doing illegal things in the course of one's work), Batman's definitely done illegal things.

Then all super heroes are criminals. And this discussion is pointless.

You've never thought a lot about comics, have you?  I think you should read Watchmen before continuing this discussion.

[TVC15]

I'm not even sure FoC is a comics fan.  He sure has never read Batman.

[Human Snorenado]

So now Batman is a criminal?

Uh, yeah.  While I don't think vigiantism is a crime by itself (the crime is doing illegal things in the course of one's work), Batman's definitely done illegal things.

Then all super heroes are criminals. And this discussion is pointless.

You've never thought a lot, have you?

Fixd lawl

[Crushed]

Batman trespasses upon, breaks into, and destroys PRIVATE PROPERTY of other people quite frequently.

Yes, quite the libertarian.

[Bloodwake]

If this article is to be believed, it further explains why my favorite comic book hero of all time is the Dark Fucking Knight.

[Eric P]

ha ha ha

oh FoC

read some steve ditko, as suggested.

[Eel O'Brian]

the golden age batman wasn't a criminal

he was straight up sanctioned by commissioner gordon

got keys to the city and ceremonies and parades and shit all the time

[drohne]

bruce wayne is a corporate heir whose public life is just a screen for his nightly cavortings with a nubile lad, both of them in kinky costumes. he's not just a republican, he's a republican member of congress

[TVC15]

the golden age batman wasn't a criminal

he was straight up sanctioned by commissioner gordon

got keys to the city and ceremonies and parades and shit all the time

But I am sure that the Golden Age Batman has been retconned and the retcons have been retconned, and those retcons retconned.  Golden Age Batman probably took place in a set of russian doll-like universes and dimensions and all that.

[Eel O'Brian]

yeah but those were fun comics

batman all jumping around on giant typewriters and such

[Eric P]

the silver age DCU ruled.

esp the flash.

[Eel O'Brian]

big-headed flash was awesome