Author Topic: A serious discussion about Shallow Hal (Read 5229 times)

Phoenix Dark · « **on:** July 18, 2008, 09:21:47 PM »

So I was thinking, if you could choose to acquire the ability to only see the inner beauty of women would you? And like in the movie, often the most beautiful women (from your perspective) would look hideous to everyone else.

I don't think I'm very shallow but I would turn down this power. On most issues I give public opinion the middle finger but I don't think I could walk around town with an ogre, even if she looked like Miley Cyrus to me. $:-\$

Himu · « **Reply #1 on:** July 18, 2008, 09:24:26 PM »

where the ufck did this come from

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #2 on:** July 18, 2008, 09:26:27 PM »

Fat chicks usually have mental issues anyway.

cool breeze · « **Reply #3 on:** July 18, 2008, 09:28:44 PM »

This should be a game mode in Fat Princess. Make her really fat and trick the other team into thinking only one man can carry her.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #4 on:** July 18, 2008, 09:30:33 PM »

PD you're going to marry a fat white woman anyways so take the power while you can.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #5 on:** July 18, 2008, 09:34:24 PM »

Its a common myth that fat chicks are somehow beautiful inside.

This is false. After my several stints in the service industry, fat friends with their fat girlfriends, a lot of fat women are just as nasty as the beautiful women. Only difference is that you want to stick your dick in the prettier ones, so you often overlook a lot of their defective personality traits. The less than desirable women, you don't want to put it in them, so you are able to see them for who they are.

Actually, I think pretty girls have treated me far better than the fat girls generally.

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where the ufck did this come from

He is preparing to embrace a certain racial stereotype. This is the slippery slope and Maurice is ready to slide down. Somebody's gotta love them though.

EvilBoris · « **Reply #6 on:** July 18, 2008, 10:07:17 PM »

Why didn't the farrelly's employ an actual obese girl instead of using a fat suit if they actually believe in its message.

tiesto · « **Reply #7 on:** July 18, 2008, 10:37:32 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on July 18, 2008, 09:34:24 PM

Its a common myth that fat chicks are somehow beautiful inside.

This is false. After my several stints in the service industry, fat friends with their fat girlfriends, a lot of fat women are just as nasty as the beautiful women. Only difference is that you want to stick your dick in the prettier ones, so you often overlook a lot of their defective personality traits. The less than desirable women, you don't want to put it in them, so you are able to see them for who they are.

Actually, I think pretty girls have treated me far better than the fat girls generally.

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where the ufck did this come from

He is preparing to embrace a certain racial stereotype. This is the slippery slope and Maurice is ready to slide down. Somebody's gotta love them though.

Totally agree with you... 'fat and jolly' is just a false stereotype. In fact, I'd say the fat girls tend to have massive self-esteem issues or depression due to constant rejection. Most of the fat girls I've known tended to be either manic depressive, or cold, sarcastic and bitchy. I find excessive sarcasm in a woman to be a total turnoff. And of course, really hot women can get away with much more due to their looks... Actually, calling hot women on their shit is one of the principal commandments of Game.

I know a cute Swedish chick I know that looooves black guys, maybe if Maurice came to town I could hook him up. I think Maurice would be best off with a cute and intelligent, hipster-y black girl (yes there are hipster black chicks). The only single black girl I know has a kid tho.

Yeti · « **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2008, 11:56:46 AM »

No one is commenting on the fact that PD thinks Miley Cyrus is hot? Seriously PD?

bachikarn · « **Reply #9 on:** July 19, 2008, 11:59:14 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on July 18, 2008, 09:24:26 PM

where the ufck did this come from

he was probably thinking of movies better than the dark knight

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #10 on:** July 19, 2008, 12:24:30 PM »

Quote from: EvilBoris on July 18, 2008, 10:07:17 PM

Why didn't the farrelly's employ an actual obese girl instead of using a fat suit if they actually believe in its message.

It's difficult to detect sarcasm on the internet, but I hope you were being sarcastic.

In the movie, they needed an actress who could play both a skinny character and a fat character. Since you can't put a skinny suit on a fat actress, they could only use a skinny actress in a fat suit.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #11 on:** July 19, 2008, 12:43:19 PM »

In answer to your question PD, I would choose to see only the inner beauty of a woman. Then, if I was with a woman with great inner beauty, not only would the higher reasoning parts of my brain be satisfied, but so would the primitive mammalian parts. As we all know, it's hard to find a woman who is attractive both on the inside and on the outside. Furthermore, inner beauty doesn't fade with age like physical beauty. Consequently, it would be easier to maintain a long-term relationship.

However, on average, I don't believe that fat, ugly women have more inner beauty than skinny women. For instance, obesity is negatively correlated with intelligence, while positively correlated with poor impulse control.

People want life to be fair; they want things to even out for people. Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way: Some people are tall, beautiful, funny, considerate, and intelligent; others are short, fat, boring, inconsiderate, and stupid.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #12 on:** July 19, 2008, 12:53:11 PM »

Why do black men love fat white chicks??
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080718022627AAmhAjZ

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #13 on:** July 19, 2008, 02:27:27 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on July 19, 2008, 12:53:11 PM

Why do black men love fat white chicks??
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080718022627AAmhAjZ

This phenomenon, if real, may be a consequence of education and class. People are more likely to date and marry those from similar educational and socio-economic backgrounds. Black males tend to be in a lower socio-economic class than most white women. And fat white women tend to be in lower socio-economic class than skinnier white women. Thus, fat white women are more likely to be in the same class as poor black men. It may not be that average black men prefer fat white women, it's just that they're more likely to be around them in their day-to-day lives.

Or they like big flabby asses.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #14 on:** July 19, 2008, 02:34:50 PM »

cool breeze · « **Reply #15 on:** July 19, 2008, 02:40:16 PM »

I just think that black guys are really nice to get all these fat chicks off our hands.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #16 on:** July 19, 2008, 06:22:24 PM »

If I can recall what I read from Malcolm X's autobiography, it is that fucking a white woman is a sign of higher status. The black man's self esteem might be so low that he will count out the prettier white girls and go for the fat ones, which although not the ideal situation, is still white skin in the end. Unless you are an professional athlete, which in case tapping quality white ass is your obligation. Although these days, tapping Latina ass is preferred, particularly Colombian or Brazilian.

This is even common with black women also. The hottest black women are at or less than 50% black. They are caramel colored, almost near white. Not to mention that they have to chemically treat their hair to make it "white hair." I can't really think of any black female celebrity who is considered hot that is truly black. Most hot black celebrities subscribe to the One Drop Rule.

Mupepe · « **Reply #17 on:** July 19, 2008, 06:24:20 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on July 18, 2008, 09:34:24 PM

Its a common myth that fat chicks are somehow beautiful inside.

This is false. After my several stints in the service industry, fat friends with their fat girlfriends, a lot of fat women are just as nasty as the beautiful women. Only difference is that you want to stick your dick in the prettier ones, so you often overlook a lot of their defective personality traits. The less than desirable women, you don't want to put it in them, so you are able to see them for who they are.

Actually, I think pretty girls have treated me far better than the fat girls generally.

fucking nailed it, man. fat girls are insecure and will fuck you over just as quickly, if not quicker than "pretty" girls.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18 on:** July 19, 2008, 06:43:59 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on July 19, 2008, 06:22:24 PM

If I can recall what I read from Malcolm X's autobiography, it is that fucking a white woman is a sign of higher status. The black man's self esteem might be so low that he will count out the prettier white girls and go for the fat ones, which although not the ideal situation, is still white skin in the end. Unless you are an professional athlete, which in case tapping quality white ass is your obligation. Although these days, tapping Latina ass is preferred, particularly Colombian or Brazilian.

This is even common with black women also. The hottest black women are at or less than 50% black. They are caramel colored, almost near white. Not to mention that they have to chemically treat their hair to make it "white hair." I can't really think of any black female celebrity who is considered hot that is truly black. Most hot black celebrities subscribe to the One Drop Rule.

First off that's a pretty broad generalization, and with respect to the "one drop rule" most blacks in the US have "white blood" no matter how dark they are. Not all good looking black women look mixed, a la Beyonce or Halle Berry. Perceptions of beauty are defined and reinforced by society, whether it's blond hair/blue eyes or fair skin. I know many dark women from Nigeria who are gorgeous. But the thing that separates them from the stereotypical views of what "dark skin" means is that their complexions are very clear. Serena Williams isn't very dark, but she's also not Beyonce-lite and she's considered to be beautiful by many people. It all comes down to personal perception though

Personally I'm attracted to "brown" women (whether they're black, hispanic, etc) as well as darker women. And yea many black women fry their hair to make it straight with is an interesting subject in of itself. Black chicks with dread locks are fucking hot btw

Malcolm X also suggested that black men who chase white women are fueled by an almost subconscious "revenge" over the rape and harassment that first led to racial mixing in the US. Eh

and wtf is this 50% bullshit. Beyonce's mom and dad are black. What percentage is her blackness?

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #19 on:** July 19, 2008, 06:57:55 PM »

This thread is nothing but broad generalizations because Shallow Hal was a squalid movie.

The movie is based on a myth: that ugly and fat women are beautiful inside but pretty women are shallow and vapid. Also, that men only care about how good a woman looks, as opposed to anything else. Which is also incorrect. Not to mention casting Jack Black, who can't really do anything other than act like an insane, zany asshole. So any moment where Black has a moment of introspection, it comes off poorly.

Plus Tony Robbins.

cool breeze · « **Reply #20 on:** July 19, 2008, 07:31:39 PM »

If anything, evidence proves that fat women are more likely to be worse. Could you think of one fat woman that has done good in the world? I can think of one that has done bad: Rosie O'Donnell.

Shuri · « **Reply #21 on:** July 20, 2008, 12:01:25 AM »

Pretty girls will fuck you as quickly as long as you're not some weirdo.

here are some tips when it comes to hot women:

1) Don't treat them like they are magical creatures from another word. Every other dude in the room has done this to them. Just be cool, relaxed
2) Don't rush them, ever.
3) Don't ever try to hard to impress them. Every other dude they have met will do this. They've seen it it all.Be yourself.
4) Make them laugh, make them feel interesting, and don't make them feel like you are talking to them just because you want to jump them..
5) they love the mystery, the excitement. It's always good to be a bit enigmatic (in a non creepy way) about yourself and not give yourself always too easily

Every woman wants the same thing, black, white, latina, fat or thin, they all want those things. It's universal.

I'm not a player, i'm chubby, but I manage to get quality time with women by being like that. This shit works with 95 of women; you'll always get the occasional bitch that wont even give you the time of the day; but women like that are not worth it.

Making them genuinely laugh, not having them feel like they are a piece of meat, act like a all-around person that cares about them will work EVERY. FUCKING. TIME if you manage to pull it right. But then again it will never work for you if you are actually faking. They'll figure it out quickly.

Things that turn them off, and this is universal:

1) Lack of confidence. You're going to laugh at me, but I swear to god this shit dates back to the cavemen and alpha male stuff. If you exude some sort of feeling of being weak, or not being up to a potentiel challenged; YOU ARE DOOMED.
2) Making them feel like you are falling in love with them after a date or two. This is an instant-turn off. Be relaxed, dont be their slaves, and dont live for them. Be independant, but never be a cock. The balance in this is critical
3) If you dont have a drive, or a will to fight, you're fucked. Find a good job, work hard. It's
another shit that goes back to the alpha male thing.. it sounds primitive, but women wants to be with guys that have their game down and can provide security and safety.
4) don't be ever emo about trivial shit. ever

guys, try to follow those guidelines.. this is what I found out that works for me over the years, and it seems to be fairly working. The method is a bit slower working, but fuck, its fine by me. By the 3 or 4th contact with the target, she'll crave your attention and be super happy to see you and bla bla bla.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #22 on:** July 20, 2008, 12:34:56 AM »

Quote from: Shuri on July 20, 2008, 12:01:25 AM

Things that turn them off, and this is universal:

1) Lack of confidence. You're going to laugh at me, but I swear to god this shit dates back to the cavemen and alpha male stuff. If you exude some sort of feeling of being weak, or not being up to a potentiel challenged; YOU ARE DOOMED.

3) If you dont have a drive, or a will to fight, you're fucked.

Looks like I won't be having sex again until there are affordable sexbots.

tiesto · « **Reply #23 on:** July 20, 2008, 01:52:03 AM »

Shuri's advice is right on-point, I'd also add "be assertive" to this list... have a plan, don't leave the girl to decide everything. Especially when first dating. And of course, don't be afraid to make physical moves with her. If she likes you even a bit, she won't mind getting a kiss after the date's over. Also, don't be afraid to put your foot down every now and then (this is part of having confidence).

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #24 on:** July 20, 2008, 03:34:07 AM »

Quote from: The Experiment on July 19, 2008, 06:57:55 PM

This thread is nothing but broad generalizations because Shallow Hal was a squalid movie.

The movie is based on a myth: that ugly and fat women are beautiful inside but pretty women are shallow and vapid. Also, that men only care about how good a woman looks, as opposed to anything else. Which is also incorrect. Not to mention casting Jack Black, who can't really do anything other than act like an insane, zany asshole. So any moment where Black has a moment of introspection, it comes off poorly.

Plus Tony Robbins.

The thread is based on the scenario the movie presents - who cares how unrealistic it is.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #25 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:22:20 PM »

PD if you're serious about your love for fat chicks - being a fellow black man who LOVES the plump - there's a few resources you can go to to check out some info like:

http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com

Go to their forums. Great site.

http://www.fantasyfeeder.com

Another good one.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #26 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:25:23 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on July 20, 2008, 04:22:20 PM

PD if you're serious about your love for fat chicks - being a fellow black man who LOVES the plump - there's a few resources you can go to to check out some info like:

http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com

Go to their forums. Great site.

http://www.fantasyfeeder.com

Another good one.

wow

Reb · « **Reply #27 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:25:25 PM »

By now, PD is probably interested in anything that moves...

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #28 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:26:37 PM »

There are some truly revolting individuals on that site.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #29 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:30:32 PM »

Quote from: Rebiak on July 20, 2008, 04:25:25 PM

By now, PD is probably interested in anything that moves...

But then they can run away.

Reb · « **Reply #30 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:31:04 PM »

Slow prey, I get it!

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #31 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:43:40 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on July 20, 2008, 04:26:37 PM

There are some truly revolting individuals on that site.

Why you gotta hate?

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #32 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:48:23 PM »

They hate themselves if they don't want to live past 60

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #33 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:51:35 PM »

That's just misinformation on your part.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #34 on:** July 20, 2008, 04:57:57 PM »

OK then, we can keep it simple

That is revolting

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #35 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:02:20 PM »

Yeah, but atleast she gets some.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #36 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:10:21 PM »

I'm engaged

At least you agree that she is revolting.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #37 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:13:24 PM »

She's TOO big. I like a lil' hold em.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #38 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:20:17 PM »

what the fuck...

...

..

$:-\$

cool breeze · « **Reply #39 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:21:39 PM »

I really don't even understand the term BBW. It should just be BW.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #40 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:26:55 PM »

some women are big & beautiful, so shut the fuck up.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #41 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:29:06 PM »

What does BBW even stand for? Big Bed Wetters?

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #42 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:29:49 PM »

Big Beautiful Women

cool breeze · « **Reply #43 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:30:31 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on July 20, 2008, 05:29:06 PM

What does BBW even stand for? Big Bed Wetters?

Big ______ Women

The second B doesn't make sense, so that is all you really need to know.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #44 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:33:47 PM »

Oh

Why does that get such a sexy name? Pee drinkers just call it watersports, not Golden Delicious Fluid

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #45 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:34:15 PM »

Not all of us are bigots you know swaggaz. I don't see whats wrong with loving girls that don't fit into the disgusting mold of anorexic or super skinny

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #46 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:35:38 PM »

No one said they like skinny or anorexic females in this thread.

I think it's funny though that you call SBWs disgusting though

cool breeze · « **Reply #47 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:38:20 PM »

There is nothing wrong with being into bigger women. It is just the name that pisses me off.

I mean, you know when you go to a porn site and they have various genre to choose from. There is Straight, Anal, Oral, and then there is BBW. Why isn't straight considered Beautiful Straight or something like that. It is pre-classifying these women and damning the others. I don't see how there hasn't been a call to arms about the shit. It is automatically assuming that the skinny/petite girls are not beautiful since they don't have the term beautiful describing their genre.

It should just be Big Women. Just an objective term used to describe what they are.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #48 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:42:02 PM »

I don't even know any BBW d00dz besides Methodis, but it annoys me that he calls others bigots and then calls thin people disgusting, and also keeps pushing conspiracy theories about how the world is anti-fat and shit. If anything Americans are too accepting of fatty fat fats and there's been some pushback against the beanpole physiques that were being pushed by marketing companies.

Never mind that he's the only one on this site who feels the need to let the others know about his sexual fetishes (and works hard to make them appear normal). Other than PD's love for dick I know of no other fetishists here.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #49 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:42:46 PM »

Oh yeah, I do agree with you on that. Fat pigs would suffice as that makes it more sexy.

I don't see why you guys dont think that fucking a fat pig is so hot. Oh man, it feels so good compared to a regular vagina

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #50 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:47:14 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on July 20, 2008, 05:42:02 PM

I don't even know any BBW d00dz besides Methodis, but it annoys me that he calls others bigots and then calls thin people disgusting, and also keeps pushing conspiracy theories about how the world is anti-fat and shit. If anything Americans are too accepting of fatty fat fats and there's been some pushback against the beanpole physiques that were being pushed by marketing companies.

Never mind that he's the only one on this site who feels the need to let the others know about his sexual fetishes (and works hard to make them appear normal). Other than PD's love for dick I know of no other fetishists here.

It's not a fetish, it's a preference.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #51 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:49:27 PM »

And what is an obsession with lolis or skinny girls? Or drinking piss?

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #52 on:** July 20, 2008, 05:50:14 PM »

Those are preferences. A fetish would be like you get a boner everything a girl with a pimple walks by because your dick is attracted to pimples.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #53 on:** July 20, 2008, 07:16:45 PM »

there are big women who are beautiful. i think Jill Scott is beautiful. But then again to me beauty and "being hot" are not the same thing.

bud · « **Reply #54 on:** July 20, 2008, 07:18:48 PM »

why is methodis still pretending to be black?

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #55 on:** July 20, 2008, 08:37:42 PM »

Why are you so threatened by it? Does it make you feel uncomfortable? Does other peoples happiness make you feel bad?

tiesto · « **Reply #56 on:** July 20, 2008, 09:46:31 PM »

There's nothing wrong with 'curvy' girls per se, as long as the girl looks like she makes effort to take care of herself.

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Author Topic: A serious discussion about Shallow Hal (Read 5229 times)