Not even GameInformer likes Too Human (6.75, 7)

[Crushed]

http://www.n4g.com/News-182790.aspx

Ouch.

For comparison, they gave Lair a 7.25 and 8.

[duckman2000]

[cool breeze]

What is this about Too Human now?

More info on Batman!

[Tucah]

wow, must be especially shitty then.

can't wait to read the hilarious impressions.

EDIT: WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS THIS ABOUT TOO HUMAN TELL ME ABOUT BATMAN

[drohne]

that's effectively a -0.25 and a zero

lenient, really -- microsoft pr must have gotten to them

[Crushed]

It's kinda sad when the first bit of news is about Too Human rather than Pandemic's Batman game.

EDIT: ARKHAM ASYLUM HOLY FUCK

[Bildi]

For comparison, they gave Lair a 7.25 and 8.

So..... we should continue to not take them seriously.  Cool.

[duckman2000]

Not to be a downer, but is there a good reason to be excited about a Batman game, given every other god forsaken Batman game that has ever been made? And no, I don't consider Pandemic to be particularly good at much of anything.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

is this really a surprise to anyone?

EDIT: OMG BATMAN ARKHAM ASYLUM

spoiler (click to show/hide)

just kidding

[close]

[Grecco]

1.I still havent gotten the Wolfenstein GI for fuck sake

2.LOL Poor Dennis QQ

3.Pandemic making a non movie Batman game?

[duckman2000]

is this really a surprise to anyone?

That it receives a "good" score? No, not really. But it's a bit surprising, coming from GI. Especially for this type of game.

At least Dyack still has IGN and its associated sites on his side.

[demi]

Looks good, can't wait

[drew]

lol Batman games

[youtube=425,350]y2PtFGO0g-4[/youtube]

[Joe Molotov]

is this really a surprise to anyone?

Denis Dyack

[duckman2000]

This is one seriously nutless post. Oh I didn't want to say anything before, but you know, now that a professional game critic has said what's what, I'll chime in and say "against."

I like Tanod, but give me a break.

[demi]

Oooh, saying against a week before the game's released, big balls there

Yawn, boring - enjoy pretending to be interested while I am playing

[cool breeze]

The Batman game might be by...Eidos.  I don't know the whole score.

Fuck

[duckman2000]

Eidos? Well, speaking of the Batman video game legacy, eh?

And I bet they will say "we're great fans of Batman," and thus position themselves right next to Ben "I love Daredevil so much that I'm going to ruin it for everyone" Affleck as people who should (but won't), for the sake of their object of love, refuse to work on it.

[Smooth Groove]

I"ll give Eidos the benefit of the doubt.  The last 2 Tomb Raiders were pretty good and the next one looks to be even better. 

[cool breeze]

Bionic Commando Rearmed is being done by old Bionic Commando fans, and that turned amazing.

[demi]

I"ll give Eidos the benefit of the doubt.  The last 2 Tomb Raiders were pretty good and the next one looks to be even better. 

Crystal Dynamics*

[duckman2000]

Bionic Commando Rearmed is being done by old Bionic Commando fans, and that turned amazing.

Yeah, but they weren't Eidos. I'm certainly not saying that fans can't make great, or the best, things, but Eidos is to video games development as Afflek is to Daredevil. If they like Batman, they should have the decency to stay the fuck away from it. Just like Afflek should have stayed the fuck away from Daredevil.

I guess Crystal Dynamics isn't all that bad. Good enough for Batman, though?

[Eel O'Brian]

i can't believe you took a picture of a magazine review

[Howard Alan Treesong]

deserve's got nothin to do with it

[cool breeze]

Crystal Dynamics showed that they can do fantastic 3D platforming (of the semi-realistic variety), so that right there is a good fit for Batman.  Plus, the recent Tomb Raider games also had a grapple hook.  Oh shit, peg meet hole.  We have it all figured out.

[duckman2000]

Supposedly, some info from the review

- No health regeneration for any characters except Bio Engineer, except through health orbs that are used on contact thus causing all characters playing alone besides a Bio to die A LOT which leads to..

- Lengthy death sequence, with no way to skip.

- Poorly designed boss fights. He doesn't go into detail, just says the bosses have a large amount of hitpoints and seem like parodies.

- Game feels designed for co-op, but story elements are completely removed for it. Although, he calls it a blessing because...

- Bad story. Bad cut-scenes that are poorly animated. Supposedly the story gets worse and worse as the game progresses.

Bottom line of the review:

If you enjoy leveling and looting, then it's worth a look. Otherwise, it's a waste of time.

The second opinion guy is a little nicer, but still comes up with the same bottom line.

Here are some pros it gives also...

- Good sound, decent voicework

- Great customization options, very deep. Lots of loot to collect and customize.

- Great graphical affects and character models (Environments and animation is negatively viewed)

[siamesedreamer]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck...I still want to believe. But, this is GI for Christ sake.

I've already got it paid off too. May just rent it now.

[Joe Molotov]

Well, I do like leveling and looting, soooo....

[Smooth Groove]

I guess Crystal Dynamics isn't all that bad. Good enough for Batman, though?

Good enough for Uncharted 2. 

[Bildi]

Crystal Dynamics are doing Batman?

Sounds good to me - the last two Tomb Raider games were excellent.

[cool breeze]

http://kotaku.com/5035832/first-details-on-the-new-batman-game

Apparently the game was turd, and now they are fixing it up or something like that.  I don't know.

[Mr. Gundam]

I THOUGHT EA WAS MAKING BATMAN?

EA owns Pandemic. But recently Warner has been trying to yank back their properties and publish them through the new Warner Games label.

[Greatness Gone]

Batman info, bitches. BATMAN.

And what the fuck is a Too Human? Why is everyone going crazy over it?

[archie4208]

Awesome news.  Taking this turd off my Gamefly queue now.

[WrikaWrek]

I knew this game was going to be a piece of shit, Silicon Knights sucks ass, those animations said everything about the game, bunch of amateurs working on a big game.

edit: Scans of Batman please.

edit2: What's all this talk about Eidos and BAtman? EA has the license and Pandemic was working on it.

[Kestastrophe]

Sucks that Too Human prolly didn't live up to the hype, but I'll still play it for the 2 player co-op.

[Eric P]

at least we have Space Siege this week

[tiesto]

Not to be a downer, but is there a good reason to be excited about a Batman game, given every other god forsaken Batman game that has ever been made? And no, I don't consider Pandemic to be particularly good at much of anything.

The NES Batman was awesome and had some GREAT music.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

This is one seriously nutless post. Oh I didn't want to say anything before, but you know, now that a professional game critic has said what's what, I'll chime in and say "against."

I like Tanod, but give me a break.

What did you expect?  Sfags are the new Nfags.

[duckman2000]

The new approach among Xtards is mildly humorous. "Who cares about how good it is? It will rock the NPD! Long live us who will buy anything (quality be damned)!"

[archie4208]

The new approach among Xtards is mildly humorous. "Who cares about how good it is? It will rock the NPD!"

Xtards are the new ntards?

[duckman2000]

The new approach among Xtards is mildly humorous. "Who cares about how good it is? It will rock the NPD! Long live us who will buy anything (quality be damned)!"

What the fuck is your problem?

MGS4 fell of the charts too quickly?

Swing and miss again, Borys. 

[Tundra]

Can somebody explain in a few words, why this game and Denis Dyack get this overaboundance of flak just around everywhere? Seems i missed the info what the hive mind is up to lately.

[AdmiralViscen]

Seriously, how many of the haters have actually played the game? 7 sounds just about right for it. It's not a 3.

[Van Cruncheon]

Can somebody explain in a few words, why this game and Denis Dyack get this overaboundance of flak just around everywhere? Seems i missed the info what the hive mind is up to lately.

in convenient list form:

1) dyack compared too human to shakespeare with nary a trace of irony
2) eternal darkness is one of the most awful, overrated games ever made
3) dyack has played the part of the wounded intellectual on gaf and 1up, despite having no traces of actual intellectual integrity
4) too human's demo had some of the worst animation choreography and cinematography since the start of the ps2 generation
5) denis dyack once ate an entire endcap of hostess dingdongs, twinkies, and fruit pies

[y2kev]

Seriously, how many of the haters have actually played the game? 7 sounds just about right for it. It's not a 3.

I dunno, a 7 on GI's scale is a 5 anywhere else. They freely admit 7 is average on their scale.

I really think the game is subpar based on the demo. I'd score that demo a 4 or a 5. It was a struggle to finish it.

[duckman2000]

Can somebody explain in a few words, why this game and Denis Dyack get this overaboundance of flak just around everywhere? Seems i missed the info what the hive mind is up to lately.

He's a pompous prat who has been systematically moving the goal posts whenever a previously much hyped feature or game component has come under fire. He blames everyone but himself for everything that has gone wrong, and has waged a bitter war against the culture of "blind" criticism (yet, of course, he has had no problem with blind praise).

Most of the nerd rage probably stems from his ill-advised NeoGAF posts. He did openly challenge that forum, and has had no problem getting in the dirt with the rest of them.

[Crushed]

2) eternal darkness is one of the most awful, overrated games ever made

[Bocsius]

Can somebody explain in a few words, why this game and Denis Dyack get this overaboundance of flak just around everywhere? Seems i missed the info what the hive mind is up to lately.

Actually, it's just that there are a bunch of manchildren who have chosen to do nothing better with their time. People get riled up about the dumbest things.

[Purple Filth]

edit2: What's all this talk about Eidos and BAtman? EA has the license and Pandemic was working on it.

Becuase Eidos supposedly has the license for the comic book Batman.


It seems the info Kotaku had about "a Batman game" is actually the same game GI just announced.

As it stands, nobody has commented officially on the specifics of the next Batman game. Hell, nobody has officially acknowledged that the game even exists. That doesn't mean we can't hear about it unofficially, however. So, courtesy of someone who's already played the game, let's look over the first details on what you can expect from it, and how it's shaping up.

Firstly, our source confirms Pandemic as the developers behind the title, though we pretty much knew that already. Secondly, a good portion of the game is set in a GTA-style rendition of Gotham City, which plays a lot like Spiderman 2 as Batman zips around (he even gets a grappling hook for swingy-swingy when not using the Batmobile) attending to crimes. And thirdly? As was first raised last week, it's not in the best shape, perhaps explaining why the project has been kept in the *ahem* dark for so long.

Seems the combat just doesn't work. Partly due to the game's wonky free-roaming camera system, partly due to the mashy hand-to-hand combat, partly due to the limited range of moves Batman has at his disposal, which makes the whole thing awfully repetitive. Which is a bit of a shame, though realistically, with no official announcement, let alone release date, there's plenty of time to fix that kind of stuff. On a brighter note, another source tells us Pandemic have taken a few creative liberties with the game, and while it's based on The Dark Knight, the game's actually set after the events of the movie, which should at least be interesting from a story-telling perspective.

article: http://kotaku.com/5035832/first-details-on-the-new-batman-game

[duckman2000]

Actually, it's just that there are a bunch of manchildren who have chosen to do nothing better with their time. People get riled up about the dumbest things.

Between Dyack and the GAFtards, it's really become a battle of the remarkably thin-skinned.

[AdmiralViscen]

Seriously, how many of the haters have actually played the game? 7 sounds just about right for it. It's not a 3.

I dunno, a 7 on GI's scale is a 5 anywhere else. They freely admit 7 is average on their scale.

I really think the game is subpar based on the demo. I'd score that demo a 4 or a 5. It was a struggle to finish it.

I hated it on my first attempt, but on my second I was able to figure out the controls and it became pretty fun once you started getting a bunch of new weapons.

I'm still not spending $60 on it but there are a lot of people breathing really hard over it.

[Crushed]

At least there's no way for Batman to look worse than DC Universe Online.

[duckman2000]

Could be worse; he could have posted a GIF showing the flight "animation"

[duckman2000]

Uh, that is from the E3 2008 video.

[Eel O'Brian]

dc online is about a year away, tards

[demi]

Can somebody explain in a few words, why this game and Denis Dyack get this overaboundance of flak just around everywhere? Seems i missed the info what the hive mind is up to lately.

Jealousy

Majority will be popping Too Human in their Xboxes anyway.

[duckman2000]

dc online is about a year away, tards

So was Too Human, about a year ago.

[Himu]

I guess a 7 is now a bad score.

If you're an idiot.

[jiji]

If you're an idiot.

Or if you're a GameInformer reviewer. Same thing?