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My ankle is killing me, what can I do?
« on: August 15, 2008, 05:37:26 PM »
I twisted my ankle or stepped the wrong way or something and my ankle has been killing me for 3-4 days now.  I can't really dedicate any time to resting in bed and not using it all for several days, but is there anything I can do to still be mobile but not continue aggravating it and lengthening the healing process?  I'm thinking boots.
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Re: My ankle is killing me, what can I do?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2008, 05:38:55 PM »
shut up you fuckin pussy
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2008, 05:43:36 PM »
better a pussy than a fuckin ginzo spaghetti distinguished black fellow
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2008, 05:44:23 PM »
says you pussy why dont you gimp around some more and think about what you said
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Re: My ankle is killing me, what can I do?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2008, 05:44:52 PM »
THE MOST IMPORTANT INITIAL MANAGEMENT OF A SPRAIN IS,

    * R - rest
    * I - ice
    * C - compression
    * E - elevation
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Re: My ankle is killing me, what can I do?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2008, 05:45:18 PM »
icing helps the healing, also aspirin.

you can probably buy a ankle support at a pharmacy

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2008, 05:45:33 PM »
Put a donk on it.

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Re: My ankle is killing me, what can I do?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2008, 05:45:58 PM »
take some vicodin.

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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2008, 05:47:29 PM »
icing helps the healing, also aspirin.

you can probably buy a ankle support at a pharmacy

What about Tylenol or ibuprofen.  That's all I have on hand.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2008, 05:47:48 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2008, 05:47:55 PM »
Cut it off and use your new peg-leg to peg Demi's ass. 

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 05:49:18 PM »
kill yourself already

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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2008, 05:50:55 PM »
kill yourself already

own death before it owns you

I can't wait until I'm dead.  I'm just too unmotivated to do it myself.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 05:52:20 PM »
Can we start dividing your stuff again?
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 05:53:46 PM »
Get clutches.

Also, switch back and forth between icing and heating.  Ice keeps down the inflammation and heat increases circulation. 

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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2008, 05:55:32 PM »
Keep taking anti inflammatory in normal dosages till it stops hurting.

This is the best way to help it heal since you have to remain active.


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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2008, 05:57:16 PM »
kill yourself already

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I can't wait until I'm dead.  I'm just too unmotivated to do it myself.

You're just making excuses.  You know who else did that?  G. 

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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2008, 06:02:20 PM »
TVC, I just pm'ed you the recommended treatment for ankle sprains.

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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2008, 06:02:52 PM »
Crutches dude.

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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2008, 06:07:23 PM »
More info:  it's kind of gotten worse every day.  At first it was just a little nagging pain, and now I'm limping around and it's painful to put pressure on the foot (note all the pain is in the ankle.  I would say the pain seems most prominent on the sides of the ankles, towards the back.  The back may be in pain as well, or it may just be a shockwave effect).  Vertical ankle movement seems to be most painful, making it extremely painful to walk naturally, and difficult to handle uneven surfaces and stairs.

Is this an ankle sprain or what?  I don't recall doing anything to make it hurt--I haven't fallen or anything.
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2008, 06:09:12 PM »
Also, no visible (at least obvious) swelling.  I'd do a closer examination, but you have no idea how painful it was to get the boot on the foot.
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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2008, 06:18:24 PM »
Do you want the ankle sprain evaluation info as well?  It's kinda long. 

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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2008, 06:19:46 PM »
icing helps the healing, also aspirin.

you can probably buy a ankle support at a pharmacy

What about Tylenol or ibuprofen.  That's all I have on hand.

i think so, as long as they thin your blood

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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2008, 06:21:59 PM »
Do you want the ankle sprain evaluation info as well?  It's kinda long. 

Does it even sound like a sprain what with there being no known event that caused it and there not being any swelling?

More importantly, why am I always in pain?  I just got out of dental pain Tuesday and now this.  I've been in pain every day for like 2 months now.

Plus Prole has me paranoid about THE GOUT now but he said that's not the ankle.
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2008, 06:24:22 PM »
Do you want the ankle sprain evaluation info as well?  It's kinda long. 

Does it even sound like a sprain what with there being no known event that caused it and there not being any swelling?

More importantly, why am I always in pain?  I just got out of dental pain Tuesday and now this.  I've been in pain every day for like 2 months now.

Plus Prole has me paranoid about THE GOUT now but he said that's not the ankle.

Well, you twisted it so that's not the most likely diagnosis.  Gout is unlikely unless you have kidney problems. 

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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2008, 06:26:17 PM »
No no, I said I DON'T recall twisting it or anything like that.  I'm sorry, I worded poorly in the OP.  I don't specifically know what triggered this.
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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2008, 06:27:59 PM »
Here is the grading system for ankle sprains.  Which one sounds most likely?

Grading — Ankle sprains have traditionally been classified based upon clinical signs and functional loss from grade I to grade III:

A grade I sprain results from mild stretching of a ligament with microscopic tears. Patients have mild swelling and tenderness. There is no joint instability on examination, and the patient is able to bear weight and ambulate with minimal pain. Due to their benign nature, these injuries are not frequently seen in the office.
A grade II sprain is a more severe injury involving an incomplete tear of a ligament. Patients have moderate pain, swelling, tenderness, and ecchymosis. There is mild to moderate joint instability on exam with some restriction of the range of motion and loss of function. Weight bearing and ambulation are painful.
A grade III sprain involves a complete tear of a ligament. Patients have severe pain, swelling, tenderness, and ecchymosis. There is significant mechanical instability on exam and significant loss of function and motion. Patients are unable to bear weight or ambulate.
Although higher grade sprains involve more severe injuries to ligaments, the time for healing is not always proportional to the grade of the sprain.

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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2008, 06:30:06 PM »
I guess it's 1, but there's no swelling.

I'm more concerned that there is no event that caused this.  When you sprain or twist an ankle, doesn't it hurt immediately?
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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2008, 06:32:42 PM »
I guess it's 1, but there's no swelling.

I'm more concerned that there is no event that caused this.  When you sprain or twist an ankle, doesn't it hurt immediately?

You might have had some ligaments that were predisposed to injury already and some movement suddenly caused them to tear some more. 

If you want to get treatment, go see a DO instead of a MD.  DOs are also certified physicians but they are trained in the treatment of neuromascular dysfunctions as well as all the stuff that MDs treat. 

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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2008, 02:03:27 PM »
Still hurts.  It was getting better, but I had to go to work yesterday which involved more moving around.  Today I woke up and it feels really bad again.

It's still not as bad as it was originally.  The pain seems to be focused on the achilles tendon (which is slow to heal, as I understand), and this primarily affects moving my foot up and down via the ankle (especially down).  There is additional pain (and minor swelling) on the lateral side of my foot, roughly where the tibia is attached to the foot.  From what I've read, this appears to be ligament city.  So far, the injury still appears to feel like a physical sprain, and not some sort of other problem.  I still find this weird since I can recall no event that would have put my foot in this much pain.
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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2008, 02:40:15 PM »
Do you want to see a physician for help?  I can ask my sister to find one of those DOs I was talking about in the Seattle area. 

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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2008, 02:45:01 PM »
Do you want to see a physician for help?  I can ask my sister to find one of those DOs I was talking about in the Seattle area. 

No worries.  I'm actually going to get an ankle support and ice pack, which I should have done days ago.  It was getting better until I had to move around yesterday.  Any tips on how to keep my foot elevated when laying down?
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Re: My ankle is killing me, what can I do?
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2008, 02:50:19 PM »
You seem to have a lot of ailments dude.

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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2008, 02:50:35 PM »
FUCK, I can go see Radiohead tomorrow, but standing for hours and hours would be not good for me :(
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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2008, 02:50:38 PM »
Uh durrr how about pillows
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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2008, 02:54:47 PM »
FUCK, I can go see Radiohead tomorrow, but standing for hours and hours would be not good for me :(

I found this: http://www.contourmd.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FW4020&click=3591

Can you get a wheelchair?  :lol

At Universal Studios theme park, that gets you a front seat. 

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Re: My ankle is killing me, what can I do?
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2008, 02:57:08 PM »
Make a brace for it out of cyran wrap and dildos.   Big....black....dildos.  :-*
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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2008, 02:59:14 PM »
FUCK, I can go see Radiohead tomorrow, but standing for hours and hours would be not good for me :(

I found this: http://www.contourmd.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FW4020&click=3591

Can you get a wheelchair?  :lol

At Universal Studios theme park, that gets you a front seat. 

Oh, okay, I thought you had to elevate it higher than that.  I can just use pillows.
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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2008, 03:04:15 PM »
FUCK, I can go see Radiohead tomorrow, but standing for hours and hours would be not good for me :(

I found this: http://www.contourmd.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FW4020&click=3591

Can you get a wheelchair?  :lol

At Universal Studios theme park, that gets you a front seat. 

Oh, okay, I thought you had to elevate it higher than that.  I can just use pillows.

You just need to get it higher than your heart. 

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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2008, 03:05:05 PM »
Can you get a wheelchair?  :lol

At Universal Studios theme park, that gets you a front seat. 

When I was at Disney World last Christmas it looked to me like just fat people in wheelchairs with no problems.  :maf
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« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2008, 03:05:26 PM »
FUCK, I can go see Radiohead tomorrow, but standing for hours and hours would be not good for me :(

I found this: http://www.contourmd.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FW4020&click=3591

Can you get a wheelchair?  :lol

At Universal Studios theme park, that gets you a front seat. 

Oh, okay, I thought you had to elevate it higher than that.  I can just use pillows.

You just need to get it higher than your heart. 

Does that mean effectively elevating my foot while sitting down is basically not possible?

Up until now I've been using my boots to keep my ankle compressed, but since they are kinda heavy, I think this is not optimal.  Plus they are fucking boots.
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« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2008, 03:07:09 PM »
You'll be fine sitting down
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« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2008, 03:08:51 PM »
I can sit down fine, but I want to keep my foot effectively elevated because that helps with healing.
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« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2008, 03:16:05 PM »
It's not going to magically heal quicker the higher it is
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« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2008, 03:20:26 PM »
It's not going to magically heal quicker the higher it is

If it's elevated, more blood flows to it, which makes it heal faster.  This is important for the achilles tendon and some ligaments around the foot since they don't get much blood circulation to begin with.  I've read up in my Gray's Anatomy.
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« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2008, 03:24:46 PM »
Ok but you're gonna screw up anyway if you try for the quickest route. Take the middle ground.
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« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2008, 04:12:22 PM »
It's not going to magically heal quicker the higher it is

If it's elevated, more blood flows to it, which makes it heal faster.  This is important for the achilles tendon and some ligaments around the foot since they don't get much blood circulation to begin with.  I've read up in my Gray's Anatomy.

er, no.  You want to elevate it to decrease swelling by reducing blood flow. 

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« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2008, 08:13:55 PM »
It's not going to magically heal quicker the higher it is

If it's elevated, more blood flows to it, which makes it heal faster.  This is important for the achilles tendon and some ligaments around the foot since they don't get much blood circulation to begin with.  I've read up in my Gray's Anatomy.

er, no.  You want to elevate it to decrease swelling by reducing blood flow. 

Well, I guess that's why I'm supposed to be using an ankle support/compressor.  I was kind of wondering why there were two conflicting things (wearing a compressor + elevation) but it's because I thought elevation increased flow rather than decrease it.
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« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2008, 08:19:01 PM »
Radiohead sucks. Thank gyllengod your ankle is preventing you from seeing them.

Have you tried, like, going to a doctor yet?

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« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2008, 08:20:44 PM »
If you want to decrease swelling and to increase circulation, then switch back and forth between icing and heating your ankle.  Icing decreases the swelling while heating increases the circulation. 

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« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2008, 08:22:01 PM »
Radiohead sucks. Thank gyllengod your ankle is preventing you from seeing them.


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« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2008, 08:46:33 PM »
motorized wheel chair FTL. i kinda wanted to rent one today
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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2008, 08:49:24 PM »
If you want to decrease swelling and to increase circulation, then switch back and forth between icing and heating your ankle.  Icing decreases the swelling while heating increases the circulation. 

But does increasing the circulation via heat provide a healing benefit?

I have not seena  doctor because this is really trivial, and it was getting better until I actually had to walk around a lot yesterday.
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« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2008, 08:53:18 PM »
If you want to decrease swelling and to increase circulation, then switch back and forth between icing and heating your ankle.  Icing decreases the swelling while heating increases the circulation. 

But does increasing the circulation via heat provide a healing benefit?

I have not seena  doctor because this is really trivial, and it was getting better until I actually had to walk around a lot yesterday.

Sure, blood and lymph get rid of waste from tissue damage and carry the proteins needed for repair.  Improving flow can only help.