Ratchet & Clank Quest for Booty is 3.2GB?! :lol

[pilonv1]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=218340

Ratchet & Clank: Quest for Booty is a 3,181MB download, we can report. Because we're downloading a review copy and have nothing better to do in the meantime.

Insomniac Games' latest PS3-exclusive is due out this Thursday, 21st August, and will cost GBP 9.99 on the PlayStation Store.

If you prefer, you can also buy it on Blu-ray in Europe from 12th September, and you won't have to pay a penny more. Unless you tell them to keep the change.

Quest for Booty is a 3D platformer that picks up where Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction left off, with Clank off with the Zoni and Ratchet on a mission to save him.

WTF PSN 

[y2kev]

Are you on a bandwidth cap?

[Ninja]

It'd take me longer to download it than to play it. I'll wait for the disc version, there's not much point in having something that I'll only play once taking up my hdd space

[dark1x]

It'd take me longer to download it than to play it. I'll wait for the disc version,

Slow bandwidth eh?

This is one thing I don't really see a huge problem with (the actual size).  I've been downloading PC games of larger sizes since 2004!  Of course, the standard PS3 doesn't really have a lot of HDD space available so I'd imagine that would be troublesome for many users.  To be honest, the only PSN game that seems way excessive in terms of space required is Siren Blood Curse.  It's a great game, but I have no idea why it demands so much space.

I'm not really interested in this game, though.  I got my fix with ToD last year and I'm not really itching for more.

[cool breeze]

I have 250 gigs on my PS3, so I have no problem with the size.  Downloading will be annoying considering the largest things I have downloaded on PSN have been Qore episode (...) and those take about 30 minutes to an hour at around a gig and a half.  I expect this to take around 3 or so.  I'll just play Bionic Commando or something during it. 

[Brehvolution]

Where is the problem?

[Mr. Gundam]

I'm importing the Blu-ray version from Europe.

[Van Cruncheon]

Where is the problem?

3 hours of download time for 3 hours of rehashed gameplay?

[bud]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=218340

Ratchet & Clank: Quest for Booty is a 3,181MB download, we can report. Because we're downloading a review copy and have nothing better to do in the meantime.

Insomniac Games' latest PS3-exclusive is due out this Thursday, 21st August, and will cost GBP 9.99 on the PlayStation Store.

If you prefer, you can also buy it on Blu-ray in Europe from 12th September, and you won't have to pay a penny more. Unless you tell them to keep the change.

Quest for Booty is a 3D platformer that picks up where Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction left off, with Clank off with the Zoni and Ratchet on a mission to save him.

WTF PSN 

you're crying because the game is 3 gigs

[JustinP]

jesus you will cry about anything.  it doesn't matter how long the download is -- unless you're a fucking idiot and you watch the bar for the entire duration. 

[demi]

jesus you will cry about anything.  it doesn't matter how long the download is -- unless you're a fucking idiot and you watch the bar for the entire duration. 

My only question is if it extends past the ending of Tools of Destruction

[Smooth Groove]

jesus you will cry about anything.  it doesn't matter how long the download is -- unless you're a fucking idiot and you watch the bar for the entire duration. 

My only question is if it extends past the ending of Tools of Destruction

I believe there's where it starts.  Duckman is the only one who gives a crap about R&C's story though.

He actually wanted people banned for spoiling the plot in the last game. 

[demi]

I'd gameshare it with someone, I probably wouldn't buy it

[JustinP]

jesus you will cry about anything.  it doesn't matter how long the download is -- unless you're a fucking idiot and you watch the bar for the entire duration. 

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AND I STICK BANANAS UP MY BUTT!!

[Mrbob]

Good thing I can go get a 320GB hdd for my PS3 for 100 bucks. 

[duckman2000]

He actually wanted people banned for spoiling the plot in the last game. 

Nice revision of history there. But then you've never been one for making sure you get shit before you comment on it, as you have made brutally clear just about whenever you attempt to say what's what. I argued that it should be treated the same way any other game is treated, as people actually do give a shit about what happens in games and would generally not want to hear about what goes on later in the game before even getting a chance to play the game. TVC then argued that the story in Ratchet was basically equal to story in a Mario game. Now that is a stupid comment to make.

As for this one, seems like a reasonable file size. Doubt I'll get it though, I had my fill with Tools of Destruction.

[duckman2000]

Yeah, Mario usually has a better story.

Pfft. The Ratchet games have some of the better storylines you'll find in games, complete with just about the best presentation of said storylines too. Trolling on cruise control today, eh?

[demi]

yep, they all go out on a limb to try to tie things together too

[duckman2000]

Nope.  I've played more Ratchet and Clank than probably anyone on this forum, and I can't remember anything more memorable than standard videogame pap.

If you're in all seriousness arguing that Ratchet storylines are on Mario level (or lower, lulz), then you've played the Ratchet games in your sleep or some such. As said, this reeks of trolling on cruise control. 

Although, I'd agree with that the storylines aren't terribly memorable. Doesn't make them any less present, though.

[cool breeze]

I think future is the only Ratchet game where the story at least attempts to have a presence.  They attempt to explain the deal with the whatever the fuck race Ratchet is, then again with some weird destiny Clank has to fulfill.  Still is really basic shit.

I would also say that Mario Galaxy is also the first Mario game (outside of the RPG ones) that attempts to have more of a story outside of an end goal.

[duckman2000]

I think future is the only Ratchet game where the story at least attempts to have a presence.  They attempt to explain the deal with the whatever the fuck race Ratchet is, then again with some weird destiny Clank has to fulfill.  Still is really basic shit.

I would also say that Mario Galaxy is also the first Mario game (outside of the RPG ones) that attempts to have more of a story outside of an end goal.

Basic, but it's presented as a story. Complete with a general storyline, relevant and returning characters, an actual plot and hell, dialog. Well written and presented such, at that. Which is more than can be said for any Mario game, including Galaxy. Hmmm Brummh (text about stars) hiahu!

[cool breeze]

Galaxy had that whole bit where you read the book and understood history of how Rosetta, the starbits, and the spaceship came to be.  At least that was something to flesh out the story.

[demi]

Haven had a better story

[Rman]

Not surprising.  There are using high quality assets.  You guys are hilarious sometimes.

[Purple Filth]

The US version is supposedly 2.3gb.

JStevenson said the size would be different for the regions (more likely language stuff)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12453346&postcount=354

[cool breeze]

Japan version will probably be bigger for the extra eyebrows then.

[AdmiralViscen]

Any word on a disc version for the US? I'd like to park it alongside ToD as my second PS3 game.

[Smooth Groove]

Complete with a general storyline, relevant and returning characters, an actual plot and hell, dialog. Well written and presented such, at that.

Join a book club, bro.  It'll broaden your horizons. 

[Mr. Gundam]

Any word on a disc version for the US? I'd like to park it alongside ToD as my second PS3 game.

Nope. At least it's coming out on disc in Europe.

[duckman2000]

Complete with a general storyline, relevant and returning characters, an actual plot and hell, dialog. Well written and presented such, at that.

Join a book club, bro.  It'll broaden your horizons. 

Totally, like, I could get some of those fascinating Halo books! Seriously now, no one is comparing game writing to literary work. But Ratchet story and presentation is well above the acceptable norm of the medium as such, let alone the "cartoony" sector. All I'm saying is, people don't like to have stuff spoiled, even for relatively "simplistic" stuff. Only, when it comes to something like Halo, it's suddenly perfectly alright to act like a panicked tart at the mere suggestion that someone in the vicinity might be talking openly about story events.

Besides, someone who goes into a thread or other discussion specifically to post spoilers is a bastard, irrespective of game.

[duckman2000]

Totally, like, I could get some of those fascinating Halo books!

actually ... you should. The ones by Nyland anyways.

I just wish he'd been involved with the Halo game stories :/

I read two of his, and they were as far as I can remember both pretty bad. I'm not a book critic, but at least the second one "Ghost of Onyx, was it?) struck me as very sterile, overly technical, and he did a very poor job communicating what turned out to be quite simple key plot scenes. MJOLNIR alpha 134x BETA CONSTRUCT 156 Zeta 55. Better than the crap that Bungie decided was good enough for Halo 2, I'll give him that. But then that is, as said, a game.

[APF]

While saying R&C games have some of the best storylines in gaming isn't really saying all that much, it also requires some of these:   

I think what you mean to say is, like the Sly Cooper games they have some good comic (as in cartoon) writing. The stories are tripe though, unless you're a particularly underread third-grader.  Still, they're pretty fun mindless games, so I'll probably get this because short bouts of mindless entertainment is all I can fit in nowadays.  That's a fucking big download though; I wish they let people who own the full game download a streamlined version as an expansion pack

[duckman2000]

Actually, Sly Cooper games have genuinely good, engaging, well thought out and certainly beautifully presented heist stories. Nothing ground-breaking, or anything you haven't already seen in any number of heist movies (or perhaps more fittingly, read in a good heist cartoon), but they offer very good emulations of these stories, in an easy to digest comic package. To use this god forsaken example one more time, it's a bit like how Bungie brought together sci-fi influences and crafted something engaging for Halo 1.

This is in all seriousness one of the primary reasons I'm excited about Infamous; these guys are genuinely good at crafting fun storylines, with great characters.

[Van Cruncheon]

Totally, like, I could get some of those fascinating Halo books! Seriously now, no one is comparing game writing to literary work. But Ratchet story and presentation is well above the acceptable norm of the medium as such, let alone the "cartoony" sector. All I'm saying is, people don't like to have stuff spoiled, even for relatively "simplistic" stuff. Only, when it comes to something like Halo, it's suddenly perfectly alright to act like a panicked tart at the mere suggestion that someone in the vicinity might be talking openly about story events.

Besides, someone who goes into a thread or other discussion specifically to post spoilers is a bastard, irrespective of game.

did you cry more when aeris died or when gaf spoiled the scene for you

[duckman2000]

Totally, like, I could get some of those fascinating Halo books! Seriously now, no one is comparing game writing to literary work. But Ratchet story and presentation is well above the acceptable norm of the medium as such, let alone the "cartoony" sector. All I'm saying is, people don't like to have stuff spoiled, even for relatively "simplistic" stuff. Only, when it comes to something like Halo, it's suddenly perfectly alright to act like a panicked tart at the mere suggestion that someone in the vicinity might be talking openly about story events.

Besides, someone who goes into a thread or other discussion specifically to post spoilers is a bastard, irrespective of game.

did you cry more when aeris died or when gaf spoiled the scene for you

Who is Aeris? This is going to be some Jappy-Sappy stuff, isn't it, Prole?

edit: oh my god, it has its own wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerith_Gainsborough

[TVC15]

Where does Haze rank in the quality storyline hierarchy?  Better than Ratchet?  How about Spyro?  That sounds about your speed.

[cool breeze]

That depends.  Haze tried to have a story, but it ended up very heavy handed and preachy, so it wasn't a very good presentation of it (I never played Haze, but I know).  Ratchet, and these other basic story games do present them well for what they are.

[Van Cruncheon]

be nice, tvc. i am sure he is close to the eighth-grade reading level required for the mgs games or braid.

[JustinP]

ratchet is basically the pixar movie of the game industry.  fun little stories presented very well (in the context of their specific industries). 

[duckman2000]

I just read the Haze plot summary, actually. Which was a bit sad; obviously they had some really good ideas, it's a shame they didn't have it in them to make something good out of those ingredients.

[TVC15]

be nice, tvc. i am sure he is close to the eighth-grade reading level required for the mgs games or braid.

Well, I can't think of a Ratchet game that had a more terrible narrative than MGS4.  I'd say stick to the Ratchet.

[demi]

Haze didnt even have an ending (but i'm the only guy who beat the game)

[Van Cruncheon]

ratchet is basically the pixar movie of the game industry.  fun little stories presented very well (in the context of their specific industries). 

and to think we ever took you seriously

[duckman2000]

ratchet is basically the pixar movie of the game industry.  fun little stories presented very well (in the context of their specific industries). 

Eh, not even I agree with that. I know you said "in the context of their specific industries," but there is absolutely nothing about your typical Pixar movie that calls for it to be separated from "real" movies. It typically delivers, on just about all levels.

[Van Cruncheon]

in all seriousness: the plots and characterization found in the ratchet games are unfunny and awful, even when compared to your average nickelodeon fare. thankfully, they're decent-to-good games first and passive entertainment a distant second. however, if all it takes to stimulate your intellectual clit are some exaggerated facial expressions, wacky double takes, and painfully obvious commercial satires, please NEVER COMMENT ON ANY MEDIA AGAIN

and trust me: i know unfunny and awful plots and characterizations INTIMATELY. i play jappy rpgs!

[cool breeze]

I would put Ratchet over shit like Meet the Robinsons for sure, but never Pixar.

[JustinP]

so if ratchet isn't the pixar of games, what game is? 

and when i say pixar, i group it with all those 3D movies.  Meet the Rboinsons, etc. 

[JustinP]

Maybe there isn't one?

...

[cool breeze]

Valve is for producing those Team Fortress 2 videos.  At least they are the closest when it comes to video games.

[JustinP]

Valve is for producing those Team Fortress 2 videos.  At least they are the closest when it comes to video games.

those aren't even part of the games though.  they are promotional material. 

Did it cross your mind that game narrative is such garbage that there really isn't a narrative counterpart in the medium to fairly well done children's entertainment?

you can talk all day about how horrible games tell stories, but when one stands out from the others, it opens it up for comparisons.  pixar stands out over the straight to DVD kids movies just as ratchet stands out over similar games. 

when someone says "relative to other games," it doesn't fucking matter how good they are compared to movies. 

[Phoenix Dark]

Ratchet and Clank has as much "story" as a ten cent romance novel. Outside of Spielberg fanboys is there any group of homos who praise All Things Average more than Sony fans?

[duckman2000]

Did it cross your mind that game narrative is such garbage that there really isn't a narrative counterpart in the medium to fairly well done children's entertainment?  Or that there probably shouldn't be?

This is certainly true, although I'd replace "shouldn't" with "couldn't." The closest you could come would probably be by making the actual in-game events "strong" enough to communicate comparable emotion. Heartland was getting there, at least on paper. Dedicated, observational cut-scenes are really just more or less forgivable distractions.

I still like the Quark and boss enemy short scenes in the Ratchet games. But there's a chasm between enjoying a well done skit, and seriously comparing it to legitimately masterful cinema.

[fistfulofmetal]

I rented Future and may buy this because its 15 bucks and is more platforming heavy.

[cool breeze]

those aren't even part of the games though.  they are promotional material. 

So? They flesh out the characters, they are hilarious, they are well written and genuinely interesting to watch.  I don't care if there isn't some giant overarching story explaining everything, but as far as game cut scenes go, I would say they match up with what Pixar delivers.

[JustinP]

you guys are all brain dead if you think i was arguing that ratchet games have stories, presentation, or narrative comparable to pixar movies.  

[duckman2000]

Valve is for producing those Team Fortress 2 videos.  At least they are the closest when it comes to video games.

those aren't even part of the games though.  they are promotional material. 

Did it cross your mind that game narrative is such garbage that there really isn't a narrative counterpart in the medium to fairly well done children's entertainment?

you can talk all day about how horrible games tell stories, but when one stands out from the others, it opens it up for comparisons.  pixar stands out over the straight to DVD kids movies just as ratchet stands out over similar games. 

when someone says "relative to other games," it doesn't fucking matter how good they are compared to movies. 

But I don't think that's even correct. Ratchet does not stand out among similarly themed games in any way that is even close to how Pixar compares to its nearest competitor. Hell, I'd say that it's not even at the top among cartoony games; the Sly games have more depth, and even includes odd turns in character (buddy) development. But that still wouldn't make Sucker Punch the Pixar of games.

you guys are all brain dead if you think i was arguing that ratchet games have stories, presentation, or narrative comparable to pixar movies. 

Well, you did open by referring to the stories of Ratchet games and Pixar movies as "fun little stories presented very well"

[Phoenix Dark]

you guys are all brain dead if you think i was arguing that ratchet games have stories, presentation, or narrative comparable to pixar movies. 

i'd accept that analogy considering Pixar - like Sony - thrives on mediocrity

[JustinP]

Well, you did open by referring to the stories of Ratchet games and Pixar movies as "fun little stories presented very well"

"(in the context of their specific industries)"

or in other words

COMPARED TO OTHER GAMES

[APF]

The thing is, saying the Ratchet stories "stand out" in any meaningful way is like saying one particular subatomic particle stands out from the next.  It might be true in some very magnified context (and even then as stated above the Sly Cooper games--omg am I actually in this argument--do it better), but in reality it's another indistinguishable speck in a sea of mediocrity.  I don't watch as much Nickelodeon as Prole so I can't compare it to its contemporaries in cartoon land, but from my experience with American cartoons I'd put it in the "forgettable" pile.  Does Ratchet even have a personality?  If not, why am I watching him interact in cutscenes?  The combination of overworn tropes and no real emotional attachment to the character--yet enough 3rd person interaction to dispel the illusion of participation/transference/whatever the term is when you suspend disbelief to become the character--means that writing-wise all you have left are the gradeschool jokes.  Which is cool if that's what you're into, but I don't understand the need to justify your entertainment by saying it's compelling on levels it really doesn't rank

[Brehvolution]

Why does there always need some sort of justification to be present to be able to enjoy PS3 exclusive games here??
If you enjoy the game, more power to you. damn...